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Lebedev vs Toney: Live Results and Round-By-Round Coverage

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Today at 11 a.m. EDT on the United Kingdom's BoxNation network, American veteran James "Lights Out" Toney takes to the ring in Russia to challenge highly-rated cruiserweight Denis Lebedev in a bout for the interim WBA title. It will be Toney's first fight at cruiserweight since his all-time classic against Vassiliy Jirov in 2003.

Lebedev (22-1, 17 KO) was last seen on May 21, knocking out Roy Jones Jr in scary fashion in the 10th round. The 32-year-old Russian has power in both hands, is the far fresher fighter of today's combatants, and has home field advantage. But most important, he's been fighting at this weight for a long time now.

The 42-year-old Toney (73-6-3, 44 KO) on the other hand dropped 58 pounds from his February ho-hum win over Damon Reed to hit 199 on the scales for this one, and there is great concern that he's going to be in bad shape, even if he looks better cosmetically.

At his best, Toney is a great stylist, a defensive wizard, and an exceptionally tough nut to crack. The question is how close to "his best" he is anymore.

Also on the card will be Ukrainian-born, California-based light heavyweight prospect/contender Ismayl Sillakh (16-0, 13 KO). Sillakh will be taking on Ali Ismailov (18-7-1, 13 KO) in what should be a very easy fight.

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I’m expecting a contender for worst TV fight of the year here. So the good news is it’ll be very hard for me to be disappointed.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Ready to watch, I guess because I have a deep morbid streak. Also, boxing is a f@#*ing addiction.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Looks like we’ll be getting:

Lebedev vs Toney
Sillakh vs Ismailov
and Sasha Bakhtin vs Luis Melendez

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Aaaand BoxNation is live.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m seeing Enzo Maccarinelli, I think. Why is that?

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

a tape?

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Old fight that came before. You may be a bit behind.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

You may be a bit behind

a lot, lately.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

You and me both.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clips of Toney from the past 8 years shown for hype: 0.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow old clips of Jones and Toney. That was depressing.

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

One gets the impression Steve Bunce hasn’t seen a lot of the fights he talks about. I think he’s entertaining, but eh.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, I think he has been to a lot of fights as a journalist, but I think it is generally UK-focused with a lot of amateur stuff, so he probably hasn’t seen some of the US fights. Mind you he might have seen them, its just that he tends to get over-excited when a microphone is around him.

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m familiar with Bunce. I like him. But he says things like “so-called steroid aggravation” – what does that mean? That Toney DIDN’T fail a drug test? And he didn’t even mention the OTHER drug test he failed.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, standard Buncisms. Sometimes he just spouts nonsense, but its usually in an entertaining manner.

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know why I’d even bother, but is there a stream anywhere for this?

by Chris Celletti on Nov 4, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Not a legal one. Check your email.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was hoping for the same, but I guess not.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

same one as before

I’ll send it.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Odd, I checked that earlier, but …

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can still hardly believe Toney dropped to 199.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I can’t believe that Toney won’t drop a lot more in the process.

by El Destruyo on Nov 4, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. But I thought even the effort was beyond him at this point.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

check your e-mail, if you haven’t got it yet.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sillakh vs Ismailov about to start. Ismailov coming out to DEEP FUCKIN PURPLE YEAH

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Sillakh vs Ismailov Round 1

Sillakh’s speed is evident immediately. He’s popping Ismailov with jabs and quick hooks at will. Overhand right is partially blocked. This is no challenge for Sillakh at all, as expected. Toying with the veteran.

Sillakh 10-9

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Sillakh vs Ismailov Round 2

Nice uppercuts getting in for Sillakh now. Left hook to the body. Over the top with rights. Sillakh having an easy time.

Sillakh 10-9
Sillakh 20-18

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Sillakh vs Ismailov Round 3

Sparring, basically. Sillakh could do more if he wanted to.

Sillakh 10-9
Sillakh 30-27

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Sillakh is a beautiful boxer.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Golly I’m loving the round cards. Girl looked good too. Yes, he does box well.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Ismailov looks in bad shape, but I don’t know is that’s always how he looks. He’s a pure brawler, though, hoping for nothing other than a home run.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Sillakh vs Ismailov Round 4

Uppercut puts Ismailov down. Fight’s over.

Ismayl Sillakh KO-4

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Short fight. Lost my stream, assume it’s over. Be back up in time for the next fight, is my guess.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, it’s up.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beautiful uppercut.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, great shot.

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know absolutely about Sillakh, but he’s really good.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s very, very talented.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I meant to say “absolutely zero,” which might change how my comment sounded.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I was guessing, actually — just confirming that over several fights I’ve seen of his, he’s the real deal in terms of skills.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t read too much into that but Sillakh looked technically slick.

by Dirk Thrust on Nov 4, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Falling in love with these American guys.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Isn’t Silayh from Ukraine Buncey?

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but he’s based in Cali.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

But he’s not American.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m aware.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have an accord!

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, and that’s BS…………….Americans are more cynical, and we would be saying so what.

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was talking about the cornermen.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had only just turned it on but i’m pretty sure he’s talking about American fighters.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe you’re right. I’m just enamored by this stream of words.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

‘a black cornerman that says ’’okay baby’’

‘if he was from Rochdale nobody would care’

Bunce really does tend to go off at times

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Many comedians today like to talk irreverent.
Much of what Buncey spouts is just irrelevant.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bunce does have a fairly deep knowledge of boxing but his judgemnet is often bordeline garbage.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I love this guy. He’s great. Bunce.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

He could talk for hours, or days.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

The first BoxNation show I watched was just Bunce on commentary. By himself. The whole time. He somehow managed to tell himself jokes. It was awe-inspiring.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

99% of the people on this planet couldn’t sustain such a barrage of sentences that at least sounded like a sensible sequence.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That show must have been awe-inspiring.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what? I think maybe it’s not Bunce bugging me so much, since he’s the same as always, but Andy Kerr playing “Guy who needs to be educated by Bunce and doesn’t have any thoughts of his own whatsoever.”

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Russian commentary team

via Corey Erdman

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Sasha Bakhtin up next.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m not gonna RBR this fight. I’m exhausted and need to save what energy I have for the Toney debacle.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

“He’s not exactly MC Hammer, is he?” Duke McKenzie, how do you stay so hip?

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Some kind of Eastern European monks chanting something while bathed in blue light.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually, not monks. They look like Berserkers.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe just Eastern European hobos.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Melendez doing very little, Bakhtin really dominating.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

three rounds, max. Two, probably.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Please somebody RBR

I’m at work and can’t stream the fights

by tacklerford on Nov 4, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Bakhtin easily dominating Melendez, who looks totally disinterested. 1-0 Bakhtin.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bakhtin winning, not much else to say.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crap, this is terribly one-sided. Bakhtin is walking all over Melendez.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll be mildly interested in seeing the heavyweight Glazkov fight later.
i remember him from the 2008 Olympics but have never seen him fight pro.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW

I was distinctly unimpressed with that somewhat touted heavy Kubrat Pulev the other week on the Marco Huck show.
Maybe it was an off night but he looked pretty average to me.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t thrill me either. He’s stagnated as a prospect, IMO.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melendez is taking a completely defensive strategy, but with no defense.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Bakhtin 10 – 9.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

ok. If it is as bad as you guys are saying. I can do without the RBR.

by tacklerford on Nov 4, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Melendez looks helpless.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a pathetic non-fight.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Really no need to fight dirty against Melendez. Shame on Bakhtin.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

This has got to be stopped.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Melendez has been nothing but a bag for Bakhtin to potshot and nail whenever he wants.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously

why even bother getting in there if you are not gonna fight? (i could do with Joshua Clottey to answer thsi for me).
It’s not like Melendez will be getting paid well either though.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, Melendez’ movement has improved, relatively speaking. He’s actually thrown a few punches recently.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Melendez

waits, and waits, and waits…………..and gets punched, and gets punched some more, and………..

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Best round for Melendez, but only in a relative sense. He fought more, but still hasn’t done enough to really even make Bakhtin actually fight.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Stupid fight. Waste of time. The Sillakh fight at least had Sillakh to recommend it, and closed fast.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Who won the Sillakh fight?

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Sillakh, TKO-4. Toyed with Ismailov.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happened to Chris Henry?

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t know. Braithwaite was supposedly fighting Ismailov too. Oh well.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a … what the hell WAS that?

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Awful fight. Bakhtin looks sharp, for what it’s worth.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

He does, but he’s not in the least being challenged.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is really sharp and precise, though.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough point but it’s not that hard for a pro boxer to be sharp and precise when the other guy just stands in front of him.
Bakhtin has obviously got good ability though.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. That’s what I meant earlier when I mentioned that he’s really just punching a bag here.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bakhtin showing a lot of variety in his punches, some power. Melendez has been fighting in spurts, but very little variety or conviction.

Bakhtin 10-9.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing i’m liking about Bakhtin is — well, something DrRck just mentioned. Variety of punches, decent speed, some snap on his shots. He’s getting no challenge, but he’s not just coasting. He’s working to do different things. Smart fighter, it seems, but not basic/predictable.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Just checking Bakhtin’s record and he’s been around a while now and is still undefeated.
When will he make that move.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

10-9 for the usual.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

- again. Melendez has good speed, but he just doesn’t look like he knows what to do, and so can’t seem to put together a strategy. Could this be poor training and preparation?

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Big body shot by Bakhtin.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Blonde has nice energy

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Announcers have been critical for a couple of rounds now about Bakhtin’s lack of sustained combinations, and lack of real sustained work. I thinks he’s just feeling like he’s skeet-shooting without a chance of missing.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

More of the same. Melendez has no chance unless he hits Bakhtin with his corner stool.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Bakhtin shutout, or will be anyway. Fight’s over at any rate.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, that was a non-event. I missed my nap for this.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I missed my entire sleep because I got all caught up in the overnight news. Boy I should have slept. Nap I can still get in after this.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andy Kerr

in his typically classy suit which looks like he bought from a second hand store.
Him and Bunce make them Russian commentators look like Armani models.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously, i know they are on a budget but that studio looks like something they kept in storage from the 1970’s.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kerr

also looks like he hasn’t had a wash for the last three days.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it my poor quality screen or are his eyes just a hair bloodshot?

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was probably out on the lash last night, if not today before they got to the studio.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Main event should be trudging along shortly.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

ODL and Trinidad was terrible

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

What?????????????????????

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell is this guy talking about? I love this stream-of-consciousness commentary.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

He is very much tongue in cheek as you can probably tell.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine having dinner with him, or even a drink? I’d cut my wrists.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love it, to be honest.
I think he’s be great entertainment.
But i know what you mean.
As they say, you either like him or you don’t.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah.

wasn’t listening, in kitchen making lunch.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

me-gwell

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Burger King Buurgerking BURGERKING

by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

SEE MY FACE? SEE HOW STRAIGHT I KEPT IT?

Bunce has gone supernova. STAR POWER

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

“It’s a rubbish moniker, but…”

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

randy couture really nice guy

by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

An in-depth analysis of the Couture-Toney “fight.” It took about as long as the actual fight.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Toney’s gateway to millions and millions of dollars.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Thought it was 10……damn

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope interim belt on the line. WBA

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Highly unlikely it will go even ten, imo.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great. Toney came out and then started going the wrong way. When has that happened before?

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

man, bunce is a hell of an act to follow

by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

No kidding. He incandescent.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rawling: He absolutely schooled Jirov.
WRONG, once again, Rawling.
If it had been a schooling it wouldn’t have been such a great fight.
I can’t stand this guy.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a great fight……..one of the best at cruiser

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of my favourites, and yes, Toney did show his superior boxing ability, but Jirov was always in the fight.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toney looks good………….hope it’s not a mirage

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks can be deceiving. He’s dropped a LOT of weight. But who knows?
The Toney that fought Jirov woulod be at Lebedev fairly easily,imo.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s stunning to see Toney at least looking in good shape after all these years.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Wondering if this is a “Ali” type mirage

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else rooting for Toney? I am, for the sheer ridiculousness of it all.

by Chris Celletti on Nov 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m rooting more against the guy who is feasting on great fighters past their prime

by tacklerford on Nov 4, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes. Toney actually looks like an athlete today.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

“like a prayer” was toney’s walk out music cute

by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

This ring announcer is loving every minute.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

TOney wins the music hands down

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I still argue that Denis Lebedev may be boxing’s ugliest man. Even counting Valuev.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Only a fight would decide that competition

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Between the Russian MC, the dancing girls, Bunce going mental,James Toney being thin and me watching live boxing in the middle of the afternon, I feel like I am in some kind of strange alternative reality.

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing we know for sure: At least Bunce won’t be referring to Lebedev as “good looking”.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t put money on it though!

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Yeah, he likes em all. So long as they’re male. :)

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toney can’t let a guy in a beret beat him

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

What is Lebedev wearing?

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I think its paratrooper gear?

Sergei Kharitonov was one and he used to wear it to the ring for MMA bouts

by mikedh on Nov 4, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

“(Toney-Shamrock) remains very much in the future.” No it doesn’t.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Rawling : Read Donald McCrae’s book “Dark Trade” if you want to know more about James Toney.
Me: Don’t ask John Rawling if you want to know anything about boxing.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone should be a good friend and tell him his hat is on sideways.

"You are a miserable human being." - Mike Fagan

My twitter: @TB_Money

by Tim Burke on Nov 4, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s live. The two best renderins of our anthem I’ve ever heard are Russian, last one was RJJ vs Levedev all guys. Was wonderful.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Lebedev could have added just one “fashion item” to make him look even uglier, it would be that dumb sailor’s hat tilted to one side of his head.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev looks like he’s taken a few shots over the years. No kidding. He looks like he hit a lot of the branches on the ugly tree when he fell out of it.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

No kidding. He looks like he hit a lot of the branches on the ugly tree when he fell out of it.

Hahahaha

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Part of it, I’m thinking is a poorly repaired cleft palate. I’m pretty sure that’s what I’m seeing.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be, but i think a lot of it is his lantern jaw.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

that too, for sure.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

gonna take five girls to hit this note

by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish Alexander Povetkin was Ivan Drago

by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess those were decent anthem renditions. Reminds me of “The Hunt for Red October,” and the whole Cold War thing.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

here we go

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

i’m feeling :( already

by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Toney doesn’t look real good to me, very sluggish. But it’s just the first.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

yea, he didn’t look too sharp…………hope he’s warming up

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 1

Toney flicking his left hand out, kind of a backhand more than a jab. Lebedev short on his shots so far. Toney doing his usual rolling and slipping defensively. Toney’s rights coming in, not flush. But he’s getting it there, or at least very close. Lebedev with some lefts as Toney gets trapped on the ropes. “You would give him this round because this is his backyard.” What a stupid fucking statement.

Lebedev’s left hand starting to land in the final minute. Hard one lands and Toney looks uncomfortable with Lebedev’s southpaw stance. He’s getting hit plenty with that.

Lebedev 10-9

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh. dear.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

so glad tsyzu still got that mullet

by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Toney needs that right, I think.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Toney needs to drag things out of his memory bank. More than that.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeesh………he looks terrible

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

This is awful so far.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s getting hit a lot, and Lebedev is no speed demon.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 2

Toney looks very slow. His right hand is stuck in the mud. Feinting a lot. Looks kind of like James Toney. Backed down again when Lebedev lands. Toney on the ropes. He wants a right hand but it’s SOOO SLOOOOW. Toney’s balance sucks. He gets hit and backed off after he badly misses a right hand. And now Toney’s hit again when he stumbles. Toney looks atrocious. Lebedev is getting to him. Toney favoring his left leg. Knee or ankle. But he’s fighting and not looking for a break, just trying to loosen it up.

Jab from Lebedev. Another. Again off balance. Left hand lands.

Lebedev 10-9
Lebedev 20-18

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

why do I fall for these sucker bets

by DPlainview on Nov 4, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

ya i might have to go get a cup of coffee instead of watching this

by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Toney slightly staggered by a left.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Toney is really off-balance, and he can’t seem to throw that right with any speed.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 3

Toney constantly ducking down to his right, and Lebedev caught on quickly, and he keeps hitting him with the left hand when he does. Toney hit hard with a left and sent back. Toney’s legs are shot. Lebedev bullies him into the corner. Toney keeps shaking the leg. Now the stupid ring banner shit gets under Toney’s feet — I’m OK with him injuring himself, because that happens, but get those stupid things off the apron.

Toney doing nothing offensively. Right hand stings Toney again. Toney has no idea what to do offensively, and that’s not his leg, and that’s not new. Left again by Lebedev. Total one-way action. Toney looks so, so bad. Again, not new. He hasn’t looked good in years. And I can’t “feel bad for him.”

Lebedev 10-9
Lebedev 30-27

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Toney has no jab at all, and maybe no right either. Lebedev is really getting to him, and all Toney can do is duck and turn his back.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

how long before we see Toney Kimbo?

by davec84 on Nov 4, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I expected this. Exactly this.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too and I predicted it

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I love it.

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

That makes one of us. I’m hoping for a quick injury stoppage now.

by El Destruyo on Nov 4, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toney limping a bit more there?

by LtfcPete on Nov 4, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 4

Toney has nothing. I mean nothing. Lebedev is in complete control. For some reason, some are acting like this is some kind of new performance from Toney. He’s been old for five years. Toney getting completely embarrassed in there. He doesn’t belong in this fight and Denis Lebedev is making sure everyone knows it.

Lebedev 10-9
Lebedev 40-36

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

can we have 10-8 rounds without a knockdown

by davec84 on Nov 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, they happen.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopeless hope, but here’s to a George Foreman moment.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeez, Toney is getting chopped up. As Scott said, he has absolutely nothing to this point. He has no strategy either, except a Hail Mary right.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes suh!

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

SC on BLH:

Toney has nothing. I mean nothing. Lebedev is in complete control.

Rafael on Twitter:

Through four rounds and Lebedev is manhandling Toney, who has absolutely nothing. NOTHING.

So … Toney’s still got something?

Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather

by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a bit surprised not many have mentioned how wrong it is of Lebedev to have set these last two fights up with two totally shots fighters when he is both in his prime and also naturally bigger.
I think it’s a disgrace and i can’t stand his ugly face.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s a bit harsh when people say Lebedev has a face which has taken too many shots, he’s clearly got a hair lip. Still ugly as sin mind you

by LtfcPete on Nov 4, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Christ.

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mentioned the cleft palate above, it’s the behavior, beating up old guys, that’s ugly.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOH, sorry.
I never even noticed his lip.
The rest of him is still ugly.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, he is no trip to Hollywood.

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh. Ok for Calzaghe to do it?

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh. Ok for Calzaghe to do it?

Haha.I can’t believe you mentioned that.
No, i didn’t agree with that but Calzaghe got plenty of deserved stick for that and it was 3 years ago.
My point was i have heard no one criticise Lebedev for fighting TWO shot fighters in a row.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you remember the way he celebrated after mashing up the Bones of Roy Jones? Like he just won the Superbowl? Disgusting.

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-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been thinking the same thing for 20 minutes.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

How has this turned into bashing Calzaghe when we are talking about Lebedev?
This is much worse and Calzaghe got a lot of criticism at the time.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry to jrok and BoxAnne of you were talking about Lebredev.
Ted had got me on the defensive over Calzaghe. :) OOPs.
I don’t even like Calzaghe. :)

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The weight loss has done more harm than good. It happened to Jones, Page, and Byrdm

Why should Toney be any different at 43?

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Age + brain damage have something to d with it also.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes. It's happening to me

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. But in my case, I’m cultivating it.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

off topic

you got power yet in Amherst?

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Northampton, actually. Yes, we do. How about where you are? Some areas in the area are still suffering.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are fine in NortH Conway, NH

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

How long were you in the cold and dark? It was awful here.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

We dodged the bullet

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it was awful.

Felt guilty to be OK.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Monster damage all over the place though.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holyoke never went out, we run off the Holyoke Dam via Holyoke G&E, but all my friends have been suffering out of town. Most of us lost Comcast for several days, the branches ripped the wiring out most houses, but that’s nothing. Glad you’re OK.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear you and Boss were OK. I had nothing for three days, not nearly as bad as some, but I was seriously considering moving into my office at the University. Recovering from a fractured rib just made it worse.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toney landed a kind of right that made Lebedev pause for about 1/20th of a second.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 5

“Toney is heavy-handed.” Yeah 10 years and a lot of ice cream ago.

Lebedev kind of taking his foot off the gas this round. Nothing new for him, either. This is his biggest flaw. But he’s still doing a lot more than Toney. Toney, I guess, does better(?) this round.

Lebedev 10-9
Lebedev 50-45

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Does Lebedev get paid by the round?

by El Destruyo on Nov 4, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how much of a punch Toney actually has left?

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

none

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the alpha and omega of this fight, then, isn’t it?

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 6

Toney with a little right. He landed one last round, too. He’s trying to load it up. Lebedev presses again and lands some lefts, then does nothing. Lebedev can be a bit frustrating. But it’s still his fight. Cool FHM ads on the big video screen in the background. Body shot by Lebedev. Toney’s response doesn’t land. Toney looks gassed now, too.

Lebedev 10-9
Lebedev 60-54

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

At least that atrocious Toney MMA match ended quickly.

by El Destruyo on Nov 4, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

tHIS IS SLOW TORTURE. WATCH FOR HIM TO QUIT ON THE STOOL.

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

As much as I’m not a fan, I can’t see him quitting. Too much ill-placed pride. Buddy might pull him out.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

none at all

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. He’s not fighting anything to speak of.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s showing me nothing I didn’t already know. And he still has his own issues, even though here they don’t really matter.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wONDER WHAT HIS PAYDAY IS

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

too much.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 7

Toney nearly falls over on himself again. He has no balance whatsoever. Losing 58 pounds is no help, being 42 is no help, wasting so much of your career is no help. Toney is not strong enough to do much here. He lands here and there, but he doesn’t have the physical strength or the speed. Lebedev still pushing him around. If Denis would press I think he’d get him out, but that’s not who Lebedev is.

Lebedev 10-9
Lebedev 70-63

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

This Disney Lebebeb fellow needs to stop effing around and step on the gas.

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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

He needs to fight someone with talent his own age, is what he needs.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will, become known as the "Legen Beater."

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

He’ll also be the “IBA Champion in Recess” or some shit.

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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

err Legend

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 8

Toney with a right counter. Just sort of bounces off of Lebedev’s head. Lebedev with a jab. Lebedev staggers Toney a little again, but might have caught him in the back of the head. Toney doesn’t complain really. He’s not complaining. He’s not quitting with a leg that is clearly bothering him. He’s just not any good. Toney getting RIPPED with left hands, and that one hurt him. Toney back to the ropes, and he’s squared himself up again. He still takes a shot. The man is tougher than leather. My distaste for Toney, if you’re wondering, is more that such a great talent wasted so much of his career.

Lebedev 10-9
Lebedev 80-72

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

This is actually worse than I expected. No craft or balance on one side, no immediacy the other. I’m actually delighted I have to turn this off and get on a conference call.

by El Destruyo on Nov 4, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Same here

The man is tougher than leather. My distaste for Toney, if you’re wondering, is more that such a great talent wasted so much of his career

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

heh, heh, heh. Tarver would Greenerize him.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you El Destruyo. Gotta go find something else to do. I don’t think I can bear watching the dumb Russian crowd cheering at the end of this.

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Kostya Tszyu

hasn’t exactly impressed me with some of his talk/after fight celebrations either.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toney is gonna end up like Jack Nicholson from “One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest” if he doesn’t retire after this.
He’s probably near that point already, come to think of it.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Danny Green?

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 9

Just more of the same. Toney is being embarrassed, and I don’t mean to say this as a “hater,” but it’s been something he’s had coming for years if for nothing other than his own laziness. Toney is getting battered and he’s clearly hurting now. Lebedev RIPPING him. Referee thinking about stepping in. Alright, I’ve seen enough. This is getting butt ugly and tough to watch. I’ve seen enough of this. He’s not even fighting anymore. He’s just trying to not get hurt anymore.

Lebedev 10-9
Lebedev 90-81

Buddy McGirt has stopped closer than this. Stop it, buddy.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I am really surprised that McGirt hasn’t pulled Toney out yet. ‘You taking too many shots!’ should have been said rounds ago!

They sent him out again…

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised too. He stopped Malignaggi’s fight with Hatton and that was not this bad.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is the ref? Hopefully, not SS

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Gustavo Padilla. I’m not familiar with him.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unmemorable only time I ever saw him, can’t remember the fight.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never heard of him

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Ref is from Panama and is experienced

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 10

Toney hurting bad. The referee should do something. Buddy should do something. Toney is tired, he’s getting hurt constantly. This is ugly and nothing GOOD can happen from here on. Toney stumbling again, getting hit again. He escapes again. All he’s got left is craftiness and guts. Toney pushed back again on a left to the solar plexus. Body shot again. Again.

Lebedev 10-9
Lebedev 100-90

I’m just hoping nothing awful happens now. I hate fights like this.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Stop it for Chist Sakes

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

The whole fight has been Lebedev hitting Toney with anything he wants, Toney has no left jab at all, and every time he tries to throw a right with any conviction, it’s very slow, and as Bunce said, his right foot ;eaves the canvas and he spins around and loses balance.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Toney’s gonna see the 12 rounds out and call out the “BitchKo Sisters”.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang it. Apparenty you out this up right before I did.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Toney call out the Klitschko sisters after this?

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

thing is, Toney’s terrible balance is a symptom. He should never be in the ring in the first place. No one’s watching out for him, McGirt should be prosecuted for this.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot this fight was on, just turned it on now at end of 9th.
Not read any of you guys’ comments yet. But I assume we’re on the same page… this is pointless, almost criminal.

by Phill on Nov 4, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

I figured it would go just the way it has. Totally pointless.

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

easy Phill! :)

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get in line after Holyfield

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Wlad would kill him in the ring.

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-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

No shit

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by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, crap, this is truly horrible.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 11

Lebedev takes his foot off the gas again. Still winning the round. Left hand staggers Toney again. Another one hurts him. And Lebedev lays off again. Toney bombed again to the body, Toney goes back again. Another left by Lebedev. This is painful. James Toney was once a great fighter. Then he was a good fighter. Then he was a fighter. Now he’s this. Lefts landing at will.

Lebedev 110-99

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Led sounds like a bit of a sadist in there.

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by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear the caller saying that, he was so great years ago.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Do Toney and Roy Jones contemplate a rematch after this? I’m being half-serious.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s always Kimbo.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought of that ASAP

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by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can Holyfield, Toney and Roy make money fighting each other?

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-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Only if it’s marketable internationally. None of them have any draw power in the US anymore. Nobody watches them.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the same time, in the same ring? I’m with that. Can we do it in Thunderdome?

by El Destruyo on Nov 4, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Triple Threat match maybe? That might sell.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This sounds soo sad just from reading about it.

"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer

by SmittytheCutman on Nov 4, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

It was indescribable.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO!!! No future in MMA!.. Are you nuts?

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

This is one of the worst (as in, most disgraceful)

fights
i’ve seen in recent years.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

This is one of the worst (as in most disgraceful) fights i’ve seen in recent years.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah sounds like it

I’m glad I never watched it and just followed comments on here on and off

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good God

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Awful… and the crowd are cheering.. WTF???

by Phill on Nov 4, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Lebedev vs Toney Round 12

Lebedev still doing his thing. Lebedev going for the knockout, it appears. “Keep your head moving, James!” Keep it moving? Get your towel moving, Buddy.

Toney trying to survive the round. Lebedev not pressing anymore. About a minute left. 30 seconds to go. He makes the distance.

Lebedev 120-108

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m just on the thread now, really don’t want to be part of watching it. Too grim. What’s with McGirt anyway?

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Greenerization of Lebedev. Who I don’t think can fight that well, that’s why he picks certain to lose old guys.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Lebedev has got soem serious limitations.
He’s just a tough guy with a decent punch, imo.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record, he deserved the W, IMO, over Marco Huck.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. For sure.
For all Lebedev’s limitations, Huck has just as many.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is actually a good fight. Yeah I think he could. Not that I really think Tarver should be fighting still either.

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lebedev

is a disgrace. I hope Huck gives him some of what he gave Toney in any rematch.
These Russians are some sick b*stards.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't say that

Its not THEIR fault Toney is still fighting

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s their fault for cheering bullsh*t fights though.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

I guess they got what they expected and enjoyed that…I don’t think its just a Russian thing.

I’m glad I didn’t have to hear their cheering and watch this though – it would have been quite sickening.

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t mean it seriously Bri. I have nothing against Russia in general.
In fact, i have a lot of respect for their toughness, etc.
But the way they (mainly Lebedev’s entourage) celebrated after both this fight and the RJJ fight, i was quite disgusted so i aimed it at “Russians” in general.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Will they have Floyd Sr. live on closed circuit to translate Toney’s slurred post-fight interview?

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

No, Roger

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But not in Russia

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by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Something about the dopey Russian celebration is really off-putting, too. I hated this fight. Everything about it.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I knew tuning in to this one would be a bad idea, and I was hoping to miss the live thread too.

It’s all just too sad. And predictable.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Russia is becoming the world’s leading exporter of depressing pornography and shitty boxing mismatches.

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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

AND ATTRACTIVE TENNIS PLAYERS

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

YEAH HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out their mail-order wives.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, they do have that new reality show coming based on Jersey Shore

and set in Brighton Beach. I mean, that’s a least one major contribution to world culture, right?

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Nov 4, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Scott

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I would say that I’m interested to hear what Toney says post-fight, but I know it will be unintelligible.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Again, I don’t like James Toney. I don’t find it sad to watch him lose. Or even get embarrassed. What I find sad is watching an in-prime boxer leap around like a goon after beating up an old man who had absolutely nothing left in the ring. Lebedev could stand to put a fucking cap on it.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the RBR—later, I guess.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 4, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

WIll European boxing be like it is in the U.S. in like 20 or 30 years when people are tired of bogus belts and watching disgusting mismatches?

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, thanks, Scott. An agonizing experience.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

By that, I mean for you, having to do the RBR.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen Scott

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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

How bad were the scores?

by meyer1244 on Nov 4, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

120-108, 120-108, 120-107

And they were legit.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm moving on to Saturday now. Lots of good football and boxing to look forward to.

No need to think about this anymore.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Nov 4, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

here's hoping...

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Nov 4, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ismayl Sillakh would kick Leb's ass IMO

"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry

by Boss Man on Nov 4, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Great interview by the Russian guy.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh boy, here we go.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Toney as chatty as ever!

by Phill on Nov 4, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank god he didn’t try to say one syllable more.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did make Lebedev look “sensational.” “He’s been a boor for years and years.”

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m going to watch the Bunce post-fight verbal tornado.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Bunce has really got his moron hat on now.
" I don’t think Toney is gone yet".
“Roy Jones still might have that last great fight in him”.
Idiots like him don’t help when BS like this goes on in boxing.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

he said that?!

I love Buncey but….wow.

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed those comments; I just couldn’t believe my ears.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

psycho

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 4, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s he gonna say when one of them gets taken out on a stretcher.
“These things happen”, or something.
They do when idiots think like you were just talking, Bunce.

I like Bunce for his comedy factor, but he talks crap and misleads fans too often.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

To say he’s closely involved with boxing and boxers what he said there sounded at best irresponsible. At worst it sounded sadistic.
Whatever, it was certainly stupid.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

'stupid' is very charitable

completely unbelievable statement to make by him

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m running out of words to describe my disgust while trying to keep it civil. :)

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bunce’s mouth starts flapping before he thinks about what he is about to say. Quite witty but he’s a f’kin motormouth.

by Phill on Nov 4, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

its great fun usually

wish he could have had a think this time though

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, Phill

That’s the trouble when you talk too much.
You open your mouth before putting your brain into gear.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was talking about the fact that somewhere in the world, there would be a demand for a Jones v Toney fight. So I think he was putting forth arguments that would use to promote such a fight, rather than his own thought.

I don’t think that he seriously believes that Jones has a great fight in him, or Toney for that matter.

Still, I disagree with him even bringing up the idea of the fight. The last thing boxing needs is a Toney v Jones fight. Did we not learn anything from Jones Hopkins II?

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard what he said, and he said what i said he did.
DrRck confirmed it below my post and Bunce even said himself he was getting a lot of offensive emails in not long after he said it.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I stopped listening after he was basically inviting purse bids to stage the fight in Russia, Florida or Texas. Jesus…

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Nov 4, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, he said something about people insulting on the email.
You can’t always tell whether he’s joking or not though, can you?
I like the guy but to say he’s on tv and in his position, he should know better, imo.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understood it as you did, Matt; it didn’t sound like Bunce was just speculating on some pool of interest somewhere.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

If you joined Jones and Toney together, sadly, you’d still never find one last great fight in them.

by Phill on Nov 4, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither of them should be fighting at all.
That’s all that needs to be said.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

um....who cares?

neither should be fighting…

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you agree Jones looked terrible, James looked considerably worse, imo.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roy.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

that cleared that up, then...lol

As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.

by BrianBrock on Nov 4, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The end of the line for me. Once again, thanks to everyone for making this as enjoyable as possible. Some days are harder than others, but I appreciate this place more than I can say.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

This Glazkov heavyweight

they are showing now looks a bit better a prospect than Kubrat Pulev did the other week.
Looks like he could be pretty decent contender. He’s got the size and good skills.

by Matt Mosley on Nov 4, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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