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Boxing on Versus/NBC: Hoping For Better Than Before

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Kory Kitchen is back at Bad Left Hook this morning, hoping that the reported deal to put boxing back on the Versus network -- and possibly NBC -- will not turn into another glorified promoter-specific infomercial.

Marvin Hagler, Larry Holmes, Sugar Ray Leonard, Evander Holyfield, Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns, Pernell Whitaker. What do these men have in common? Each one was a world champion, and each one is either a current hall of famer or will be enshrined very soon (assuming Holyfield retires this decade). However, there is one other fact that these men have in common.

Amazingly, all of these fighters appeared on network television during their primes. I could list many other boxers as well, but that would not be necessary. It's been preached about for years now. Boxing's past was filled with network television dates, and they weren't just used for C-level fights or gross mismatches. Legitimate championship matches were held on networks like ABC. One didn't have to subscribe to HBO in order to witness Larry Holmes defending his heavyweight title, or watch Roberto Duran perform in his prime (imagine if boxing coverage like this was on a network today:


Network boxing programing has been virtually absent during my generation. I'm only 22 years old, and cannot relate to the stories that my father has told me about boxing's television history. My dad's eyes light up like Christmas lights when telling me stories about how he would watch fights with my grandfather on their basement television set. He would rattle off a list of his favorites to watch - Gene Fullmer, Bob Foster, Joe Frazier, Jerry Quarry, Florentino Fernandez, and several others. He would say my grandfather's favorites were Fullmer and Rocky Marciano.

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I cannot even fathom a heavyweight champion as popular as Marciano being on free TV. Heck, I get excited just to hear that any boxing will be on non-premium channels. Now comes news that Versus/NBC has struck a deal with Main Events to televise a weekly boxing series that will begin in January. According to various reports the deal is for six cards.

I desperately want to get amped up about this, but haven't we been through this before? Versus had boxing programming with Top Rank, and we were given the Tye Fields "Bum of the Month Club". After poor fights and (surprise!) poor ratings, the series was cancelled. I sincerely hope that Kathy Duva, head of Main Events, has learned from this. Versus must somehow have seen something they liked, or they wouldn't be returning to the concrete jungle of boxing.

The main question that I have regarding this whole Versus/NBC situation is the quality of the matchups. UFC and FOX have raised the bar by putting on a real heavyweight fight to start off their relationship. Boxing may not have an interesting heavyweight division at the moment, but boxing does have some terrific fighters nevertheless. The mindset of "so as the heavyweights go, boxing goes" is shallow. The two most popular fighters in the world today are welterweights, and so was Oscar de la Hoya before them. Boxing can put on terrific matchups below 200 pounds when they want to.

Therefore, the question is do they sincerely want to? If Main Events litters their cards with mismatches and glorified sparring sessions then boxing won't gain a single fan. However, if they actually put good matches on with fighters that they know will deliver then it has a chance to mean more than another series that leads to nowhere.

There used to be a term in boxing that meant a boxer was consistently exciting. They were called "TV fighters". I think it's about time we found some "TV promoters".

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I am old enough to remember big-time championship fights (for one universally-recognized championship, BTW) broadcast on one of the only three TV stations other than public television that existed back then. These are gone forever, partly because of the purses modern champions demand (and I don’t really begrudge this, given that fighters make a living by mutual and serious demolition), and also, also because the success of fights is no longer judged by Neilsen ratings, which attracted advertisers to networks, plus on-site ticket purchases, but now also PPV numbers

But TV viewership numbers can still be the key here for these “lesser” fights, and you are right: success will be determined by the quality of the cards The Big Three networks didn’t only broadcast the Big Fights; they also showed a regular schedule of up-and-coming prospects who knew that their careers and paychecks depended how they did. And the networks knew that their viewership ratings depended on how good the fights were, because that generated the revenue to justify the broadcasts.

I hope this works out. But it will depend on finding good fighters, or rather promoters, who are willing to participate.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I Agree

I basically agree with everything you said. I also feel we will never seen elite, A-list fighters on network tv again. I think the only way possible would be if it’s somebody like how Bernard Hopkins was in the mid to late ‘90s when he actually fought on USA’s Tuesday Night Fights when he was the best middleweight in the world (Mark Johnson may have too when he was the besy flyweight but I can’t exactly remember). Those guys only did it because their talent greatly outweighed their popularity so they were given smaller purses. But yeah we will never see something Mayweather or Pac on network tv.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are A-list fighters that fit your description (or at least B+)
Those guys only did it because their talent greatly outweighed their popularity…

Michael Spinks-Alexis Arguello-Salvador Sanchez-Danny “Little Red” Lopez-Azuma Nelson-Euzebio Pedroza-Aaron Pryor-Ray Mancini-Bobby Chacon-Hector Camacho-Edwin Rosario-Sean O’Grady-Dwight Braxton-Matthew Saad Muhammad-Eddie Mustafa Muhammad-Yaqui Lopez-Alan Minter-Vito Antuofermo-Wilfred Benitez-Lupe Pintor

All these fighters from the 80’s fit that same discription. Some were very popular in their home countries, but none of them were page 1 of the sports page attractions in the U.S. (except for when Pryor fought Arguello, which was not on free TV). My point is that there are title-holders and top contenders today in the same category. The evidence for this is that not all title fights are televised – for free or for pay. And some are shown on lower priced PPV’s because neither HBO or Showtime are interested. I’m certainly not confident that this Main Events-Versus combo will deliver much, but if indeed there were networks willing to pay more for fights than ESPN but less than HBO, the category of fights I’m describing would be perfect for those networks. As I’ve said before, my suggested times would be Saturday and Sunday afternoons, when football is not in season.

by geraldmcgrew on Nov 5, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel that HBO’s overpaying of unpopular fighters has hurt network potential because unpopular but talented fighters still get paid huge amounts of money (Berto, Paul Williams, and some others). I agree with you about getting cards that would otherwise not be seen on tv. Some of the old Latin Fury cards weren’t bad, and would have been great on network tv. I’m sure they could show Adamek (he is promoted by Main Events) so he doesnt have his return on a small ppv.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 5, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

For me this relates to my point about the advent of exclusive contracts in a comment below.

by geraldmcgrew on Nov 5, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, thanks for the Duran-Viruet video. Was a murderous buzzsaw of a fighter. Valero used to remind me of him.

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

“Duran was a … "

by DrRck on Nov 4, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually thought about Valero a couple weeks ago when Demarco beat Linares. Demarco could not win a round against Valero despite his opponent having a huge gash on the side of his head from an elbow. Shows you how good Valero was and could have been, Sad.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Versus rebranding

So I know that in the coming months, the NBC is going to rebrand the Versus network into the ‘NBC Sports’ network akin to the Fox Sports network. I assume that there will be a promotional bump that will accompany the rebranding of the network and boxing could be part of the rebranding. However, this will only be significant if they have a large budget and are financial committed to boxing. If they get a budget that is big enough to compete with HBO and SHO then this could be a huge big deal. Yet, the probability of that happening is about as likely as a May-Pac trilogy.

"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi

by Waldo Rastel on Nov 4, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s $100K per episode for budget, double FNF/ShoBox. This show is not intended to compete with what HBO and Showtime offer for their bigger cards.

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by Scott Christ on Nov 5, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would very much like Boxing on VS/NBC Sports

I only get Showtime and more free fights would make it easier to get into Boxing

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by MaZZacare on Nov 4, 2011 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I just don't see this working of Main Events is running the show

I doubt they put Adamek or Judah on there, and who else do they have? I’m expecting to see a lot of Sadam Ali fights.

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by Brickhaus on Nov 4, 2011 7:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That’s something I was thinking about too. Main Events doesn’t exactly have a deep roster.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Rafael said in his chat today that he wouldn’t be surprised to see Adamek make his return on there.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 4, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adamek could be a good choice

The question is whether it would be a competitive match up (at least on paper). If not, why should we watch?

by geraldmcgrew on Nov 5, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Totally Agree

I would love for Adamek to fight a legit contender; something like a rematch with Arreola or something similar. That said, I don’t expect it. I hate to sound so pessimistic about this but my gut feeling is that he will fight a top-25ish kind of guy, knoch him out over 10 rounds in front of a decent live crowd in New Jersey, and nobody but hardcore boxing nuts like us will care.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 5, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it depends

If it really is a top 25-guy (not some phony alphabet org top-25), I suppose that could be cool for Versus, if it was a style match-up that was likely to produce fireworks.

A truly competitive opponent for Adamek (if one could be found that wouldn’t bore viewers) would make more sense on NBC.

by geraldmcgrew on Nov 5, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was Hagler the first?

I’ve seen a number of explanations put forward as to why network boxing died: too many scandals, too many channels, Howard Cosell quitting in disgust, the death of Deuk-Koo-Kim, the death of 15 rounders, and combinations thereof. But I’ve come to believe that what killed high-level boxing on free network TV was when top fighters started signing exclusive contracts for all their fights, not just the big ones, with HBO and Showtime. My hazy memory seems to remember Marvin Hagler’s exclusive contract with HBO, signed in the middle 80’s, being the first of these.

Does anyone know if he was indeed the first?

by geraldmcgrew on Nov 5, 2011 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

And thanks for posting this!

…one of my favorite “what’s wrong with boxing” subjects.

by geraldmcgrew on Nov 5, 2011 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for reading

You’re welcome but mostly thanks for reading and discussing! I’m sure a lot more will be written about it as time draws closer to the series actually taking place.

by Kory Kitchen on Nov 5, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

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