Lebedev vs Toney Results: James Toney Embarrassed Over 12 Ugly Rounds
It started out being what I expected. It ended up being a pathetic display on both sides, for different reasons.
Today in Moscow, Denis Lebedev battered, bullied, manhandled, and punished a 42-year-old James Toney, winning an easy unanimous decision on shutout scores of 120-108, 120-108, and 120-107. Bad Left Hook scored it 120-108 for Lebedev, as he clearly won just about every single second of the fight against a totally shot, totally outclassed fighter who shouldn't have ever been in the ring to begin with.
Let me be honest, for those who haven't been around here a long time: I'm not a big James Toney fan. I feel he's someone who has wasted great potential, great talent. Something about guys who basically purposely give away the chance to utilize such amazing skill really bugs me, in any sport. It's not me wagging my finger and saying, "Shame on you, James Toney!" It's just that I feel James for so long made himself a mockery. And for what? Why? What good came of it?
In the end -- and make no mistake, this ought to be the end -- he went to Russia and was utterly embarrassed by Lebedev (23-1, 17 KO). Lebedev landed left hands at will, constantly pushing Toney back, sending him staggering around the ring. Toney took hard blows. He wobbled. His balance was atrocious.
The 58 pounds he dropped between his February nothing win over Damon Reed and this disgraceful fight obviously didn't help matters. Neither did his age. And truth is, James Toney hasn't been a top fighter in at least five years, which may be kind.
But while I do admit to not feeling sad for James Toney for basically getting this overdue reality check, I do feel sad in other ways. Sad that I had to watch Lebedev, who for the second straight fight dismantled a vulnerable old man, celebrate like a goon after the fight, as if he'd just achieved true greatness. Hopping around the ring, violently high-fiving and shaking hands, grinning all the while.
It was ugly. As ugly as the "fight," during which there was no indication that James Toney -- once a great fighter, then a good fighter, then a fighter -- was actually present. He hurt his left leg early, but he shook it off (literally, he constantly shook his leg). Toney nearly tumbled to the mat on numerous occasions throwing his own right hands and badly missing.
The reflexes are gone. The stamina is long gone. The power is gone. The speed is gone.
All that remained in the body of James Toney today was craftiness and guts. No matter how one-sided, James Toney didn't quit. There is something admirable about that, in a mildly stomach-turning way. Sort of like Shannon Briggs against Vitali Klitschko, but not quite as horrible a pure beating. Buddy McGirt, Toney's trainer, probably wanted to stop this fight. He didn't. I think he knew Toney may have never forgiven him.
After the fight, Toney slumped on his stool. He had a pained, humiliated expression on his face, as Lebedev whooped and hollered and celebrated his unimpressive, no-shit victory.
Maybe it's not sad that he lost, or lost badly. But watching James Toney (73-7-3, 44 KO), the man, feel that mental and physical pain -- that was a little sad.
And sadder still, someone out there is going to give Denis Lebedev major credit for beating a guy who could barely stay on two legs for 12 rounds.
Undercard
Alexander "Sasha" Bakhtin improved to 28-0 (11 KO) with an easy 10-round win over a mentally vacant Luis Melendez (31-7-1, 22 KO). Melendez did pretty much nothing in the fight.
Ismayl Sillakh improved to 17-0 (14 KO) with an easy fourth round stoppage of Ali Ismailov (18-8-1, 13 KO).
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Fight vid...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ1mFjj3LfQ
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
I don’t feel sad for JT, either. Here’s a guy who had the skills and potential of and All Time Great, but wasted it on laziness and arrogance.
Lately it seems everyone wants talk about drug cheating, but in the rush to criticize it, a lot of people seem to forget that, while many of these drugs will help you put on weight, you still have to do some work to turn that extra weight into useful muscle. Toney must have forgot that too, because he used drugs to turn himself into The Incredibly Fat Hulk. Think about that: James Toney was too lazy to even cheat the right way.
Great beard, but then again Holyfield had a great beard too and they are both sounding like they are paying for it these days. Hopefully he takes the hint after this one, but we all know he’ll be back.
Bad Left Hook
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-- Fritzie Zivic
I don't feel sorry for Toney,
but it’s hard for me at least not to see this as sad. Watching an old man get beat up is a sad spectacle. Watching a former great continue into irrelevance and embarrassment is also pretty sad. Watching Lebedev celebrate afterwards sounds more disgusting than sad, but I didn’t watch it. Hearing anyone’s speech manifest the symptoms of punch drunk syndrome also makes me sad.
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Lebedev's celebration this time was even sicker than the one after RJJ
considering that he didn’t even stop Toney. I’m willing to accept that Lebedev is just not very bright, like Tye Fields, and really doesn’t know how stupid this fight was. But Tsyzu and the crowd is another matter.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Lebedev need maybe 2 fights with good middle opponents and then title fight with Huck(maybe other belt) because his technique changed greatly with appearance of kostya tsyu.
No way Huck comes close to Lebedev at all. Denis already effectively beat Huck, with Huck getting the benefit of a little home cooking. He may be the best cruiserweight but unfortunately no one cares about the cruiserweight division.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
I don’t really know what to do with Lebedev. He won a lot of sympathies with his great effort against Huck. But what he’s doing since then is anything else than increasing his likeability. Fighting shells and celebrating the victories like he accomplished sth great. Watching him like this even makes it attractive to root for Huck again.
"Sure, there have been injuries and deaths in boxing – but none of them serious." Alan Minter
Seems like Lebedev is particularly strong in countering. He was doing very well in disturbing Huck in his attacks, taking his best weapons from him. But he’s not really an offensive force himself, having so many problems to put the fights with with the truly shot RJJ and JT to an end.
"Sure, there have been injuries and deaths in boxing – but none of them serious." Alan Minter
Yeah! Pisses me off!
To see Lebedev celebrate like he just knocked out a Young Mike Tyson’ lost any respect I mite of had..
Third fight in history to put me to sleep.
Though to my credit, I did make it to the 11th.
I gotta say though, no one can ever deny Toney’s toughness. He’s a fat guy who fought on a bad leg, took his beating and was actually trying for 12 rounds with one of the best.
The fight sucked, Toney sucks now, but he gave it his all and I respect that. He really did fight hard with everything going against him.
Toney should retire
And start a business venture with Derrick Coleman, which will fail after a few weeks because neither guy wants to put in any effort.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 4, 2011 7:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Something about guys who basically purposely give away the chance to utilize such amazing skill really bugs me, in any sport. It’s not me wagging my finger and saying, “Shame on you, James Toney!” It’s just that I feel James for so long made himself a mockery. And for what? Why? What good came of it?
Frankie Gavin comes to my mind
Too young to know what a prime James Toney was like…. But I was a Gavin fan he looks to be going down the excat same road (Obviously Toney reached the heights of the pro game and Gavin is yet to do that)
I know it was a long shot guys, but i managed to call this fight exactly.
by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 4, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
Toney’s fighting because he needs the money…..nothing wrong with that. What’s wrong is that we still watch him fight. We’re the sickos…watching RoyJones and Toney and Holyfield and Oliver McCall at this stage of their careers is just wrong. Dr Phill would call us “enablers”.
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Toney’s fighting because he needs the money…..nothing wrong with that.
Well yes there is. Otherwise it wouldn’t sound so sad.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 4, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Enablers are the promoters…………..they pay them.
As long as someone is willing to give them a decent payday, they will keep fighting……..no matter who watches.
No one will
give them a decent payday if no one watches because no one will be able to get TV sponsors if fights like these are universally avoided.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
I have to agree with you
I was ashamed of myself for watching through 7 or so rounds, and then could watch no more. Enablers is exactly right.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Eh, I don’t see the point in self-loathing. I watch it because it’s available and I like boxing. I also might have been tolling the bells for Antonio Tarver before he kicked Danny Green’s ass, too. It’s a reality of the sport.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 5, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions

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