Katsidis vs Burns: Live Results and Round-By-Round Coverage
Today at 3 p.m. EDT on BoxNation from the United Kingdom, Michael Katsidis and Ricky Burns go head-to-head in a lightweight 12-rounder from Wembley Arena in London.
Katsidis (28-4, 23 KO) is looking to up his mark to 3-0 on trips to the U.K., where he's previously stopped Graham Earl and Kevin Mitchell. But Burns (32-2, 9 KO) is picking up some media steam as a potential upset special, with the belief that his craftiness and boxing skills could make him a very tough match for the shop-worn Katsidis.
George Groves (13-0, 10 KO) will defend his British and Commonwealth super middleweight titles in the co-feature against Paul Smith (31-2, 17 KO), and Billy Joe Saunders (10-0, 7 KO) looks to pick up his first pro belt on the broadcast, too, as he aims to grab the Southern Area middleweight title against Gary Boulden (5-2-2, 0 KO).
We'll have round-by-round coverage of each fight, with immediate post-fight analysis during and after the card. Join us!
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Nothing like a good boxing card as therapy for a bad week
Sadly the Toney Leb card does not fufill this catogory
The RBR threads can light up the dullest of fights
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm new here and don't make every fight thread
But I agree with drrck, the threads make even boring fights leagues better than they would have been. I wish there was a boxing fans bar somewhere in Vegas where I could have similar conversations..
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Yes. The Kat looked bad in his last outing. He may be shot.
"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry
I can see it. It all depends on how far gone Katsidis is. I think we all agree he’s shop-worn at best, and not the fighter he was a few years ago. If he’s really gone, Burns will outbox him. If it goes 12, and Katsidis doesn’t score a few knockdowns, I think there’s almost no way Burns can lose unless he’s just relentlessly negative.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I’m picking Katsidis because I think he’s got just enough left to overwhelm Burns physically. I could even see Katsidis really blitzing him and taking him out in short order, a la Mitchell.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I've never used BoxNation
Wondering what the deal for watching this card from the states would be, if I could find it online for a small fee, a link to that would be good, not looking for anything illegal of course.
I’ve heard good things about Groves, and love watching a good scrap at at 167. The main event I think promises to be one oif my favorite kinds of fights, that of the come forward pressure fighter kats vs. the crafty defensive boxer burns. Hopefully this train will get me home soon so I can watch and not have to type on this tiny phone keyboard.
Cheers to a good day of fights fellas!
Sadly only illegal means for us in the States.
Bad Left Hook
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oh well
I guess this phone will work out just fine. I find it a little hard to contribute when I can’t see, but I never mind sitting back and letting you guys paint the picture while some crappy cfootball plays on tv.
Well, when it’s not available to us at all, I prefer to rephrase it to" Less than legal" rather than right out illegal… :)
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Well it’s being “broadcast” from somewhere it’s quite illegal. We’re all guilty!
Bad Left Hook
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I've heard good things about Groves.
But I don’t get a ton of time to watch. But I’ve seen both Burns and Katsidis, mostly Katsidis getting it handed to him, but even in those fights, he has his moments.
Burns is a great classic boxer.
That’s very generous of you DrRck. :)
I know what you mean though. He has that classic stand up, hands high style. Does nothing great but almost everything well, IMO.
I was thinking of range of technique, movement, speed, and reflexes. No zing, though.
But then, I also liked Ken Buchanan quite a lot.
You don't always need the zing.
Especially with a little defensive slickness or a range of other skills. Zing is a great cover for a lack of other abilities though. Makes me think of James Toney against Michael Nunn, since James Toney has been getting so much run for his recent beating.
Not that Toney didn't have other skills.
He had plenty in his prime in other fights, he just didn’t have much until he went bang that night against Nunn.
High guard defense is the most technically sound defense.
The problem most people have with it is that when employed improperly or unskillfully, it is very hard to counterpunch from a high guard defense. What a lot of people mean by classic boxer, is that they counterpunch well from high guard, which is something I would like a lot :).
Oops, I just realized I listed the time wrong. It starts at 3 p.m. ET, not 2. It starts at 2 local for me — I’m in central. So, it’s at 3.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Lots of sport on tv today
I just watched the Aussies beat us (England) at rugby (again). We played quite well for once this time though and it was a good, entertaining game.
I have now got boxing, the UFC, the Breeder’s Cup and the NFL preview show Total Access to flick through, along with catching the Silaykh fight that i missed last night on replay.
I’m certainly not complaining. :)
Boxing definitely takes priority though.
I’ve watched Newcastle v Everton and then Liverpool v Swansea so far today. I’ve now got roughly 9 hours of boxing coming up.
You’re gonna stay up for the Bute fight then Dave?
I think i’ll wait for the replay. Besides i want to be up to see the showing of Angulo v Kirkland tmoro.
Unfortunately, that goes for me as well. It kills me, but I really don’t think I’ll be capable of staying up late enough to watch some of the other fights coming up.
No Man city? I miss Tevez :(. What do you think about Everton getting Donvan again? Probably a bad move huh?
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Not watching the City game, I don’t subscribe to ESPN on account of it being shit. Everton are desperate and even though Donovan is average, he’ll still improve their squad.
I don’t subscribe to ESPN on account of it being shit.
If we had to subscribe to it, I wouldn’t either. On account of it being shit.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I subscribe to it, on account of it providing all UFC ppv events for £9/month.
I’m starting to think i might cancel it next year though as i think the UFC has been quite average for much of this year and the MNF line up has been poor too.
I subscribe to it, on account of it providing all UFC ppv events for £9/month.
Yeah we don’t have that luxury. Monday Night Football is a second-rate nothing show since it went to cable here. Sunday nights are the money now.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I’m also sick of watching Joe rogan and Mike Goldberg almost make out at the end of each ppv broadcast.
They act like overly friendly school kids half the time.
I like Rogan’s enthusiasm (but don’t care for the yelling). Goldberg is horrible. Absolutely horrible. Someone on Twitter earlier said listening to Goldberg is like reading Wikipedia, which is about right.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
listening to Goldberg is like reading Wikipedia, which is about right.
I think he’s much, much, much worse than that.
He’s jsut about the worst i’ve ever heard.
Not because he’s unprofessional.
He just makes really dumb or obvious comments.
That’s what I mean.
“Chuck Liddell is known for his mohawk haircut” is something I would expect him to say, and be all serious about it.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
My favorite Goldberg line to hate is...
when one fighter has a ground/wrestling/bjj style and when the other is boxer/striker/kick boxer and he says about the most obvious thing you could ever here:
“Well the outcome of this fight is whether it stays standing or fighter x can get it to the ground.”
I’m like, “No shit Sherlock, that’s MMA one zero fucking one!” No one needs to be reminded of that.
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I like Rogan’s enthusiasm (but don’t care for the yelling).
You can tell he knows the game, especially the BJJ and wrestling stuff, but have you heard some of the stuff he says about boxing and boxing’s great figthers?
He has little clue what he’s talking about when it comes to the sweet science, imo.
I suppose that’s what you get when you commentate on a “jack of all trades” kind of sport.
I don’t mean this to be combative toward MMA folks, but it’s a symptom of the sport and many of the people who commentate and follow it. Everyone has opinions on boxing, and often they’ll say “I love boxing!” but it’s clear they don’t follow the sport much at all.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Well that’s the nature of the “mixed” part of it, I read here in this boxing forum that Rogan knows a lot about grappling, but in my BJJ classes everyone complains about some of the stupid things Rogan says, despite him being a brown belt!
When these styles mix, they’re never in their “pure” form that’s what makes the sport great, but it’s also what makes me watch grappling tournaments and watch boxing too. I like both their pure and “mixed forms”. Frankie Edgar and Dos Santos are great boxers when considering the “mixed” form.
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Exactly
Also, have you seen this thing Goldberg initiates at the end of each show when they are both on camera?
He taps his microphone against Rogan’s as if to say “you’re my buddy”.
To be fair to Rogan, he looks a bit embbarrased by this,………. and i just want to throw up…
These two are like 45 or something!
It’s obvious who their target audience is because they act like over excited 15 year olds.
well the good news is most of the fox card isn’t on american tv, so I won’t have to endure Goldberg cause I’ll be watching it in spanish on fox sport deportes :)
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If the mic-taps are too juvenile for you, I advise you never to go anywhere near Goldberg’s twitter feed.
In all seriousness it’s almost incredible how little Goldberg, who by now has called hundreds of MMA fights, knows about the sport. His reliance on catchphrases and refusal to describe the action also drive me nuts.
Liverpool Swansea
How did that one go :) :)
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t impressed. We’re completely devoid of creativity, width and an out and out goalscorer to play alongside Suarez.
Could be worse
Im still getting over the 6-1
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhiile, pray for Joe Frazier who is fighting a mortal battle with liver cancer
"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry
I guess Lederman is in a bit of trouble too, cancer sucks… it really does..
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Yes, it sure does. But, Lederman’s situation, at least on the little I have heard, may not be a serious as Frazier’s.
Harold says the doctors are optimistic for his case, expect him to recover. Joe’s is very advanced. Short time to live.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Cancer does indeed suck
but I believe Lederman will be OK. Early diagnosed prostate is very curable, thank god.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
They’re reporting Joe’s going into hospice care. The patient usually has two weeks or less left at that point
All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.
thanks for the update, but,
well, goddamnit.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Hi folks. I’m betting on upsets today, at least with Burns and later with Kirkland. I actually think Angulo is more likely to win, but at 3 to 1, it seems like a good bet to me. I think GJ is a live dog against Bute too, but I don’t see Johnson getting the nod in Canada.
In American college football, I am rooting (but not that hopeful) for an upset in the Alabama vs. LSU game. I definitely NOT hoping for an upset in the Nebraska vs. Northwestern game, though.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
You think they'll give him the points win in Quebec City, though?
I haven’t looked into the judges.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Judges are Benoit Roussel, Pasquale Procopio and Jerry Roth.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Then I'm sticking with my pick
Though the odds of Bute winning on split decision (with Roth dissenting) seem more probably now.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
er "more probable"
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I’m going Kirkland in one. Totally selling out on that one. The gusto.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
It’s mostly that I’m picking Kirkland, and the more I think about it, the more I think JK HAS to blitz him and get him out in one, maybe two, if he’s going to win.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
He'd need to win quickly
But I don’t think Kirkland will go down quickly. He’ll be prepared for Angulo’s power. His chin isn’t great, but to me it seems like the Ishida fight was an aberration. Joel Julio has decent power, and he couldn’t hurt Kirkland, for instance.
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I wouldn’t really consider Burns winning to be an upset
All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.
I’ve had a shocker today. £20 down. Would’ve been a tenner up if Liverpool had won. I’ve got an acca consisting of Kats, Billy Joe Saunders KO win, Kirkland, Bute and Paul Smith.
I think he’ll take him the distance and don’t think it will be as one sided as DeGale-Groves.
But i have never thought that highly of Smith. His limit is British level and Groves is gonna go further than that, imo.
Soon find out.
I don’t see him as being the next big Brit fighter or anything but to be honest, i haven’t seen major chin issues.
He got into a brawl with the Scottish fella (his name escapes me) but that’s all part of the learning process, imo.
I think he’s at least a level above Smith, even at this stage.
You could be right about his chin but that will happen at a higher level, imo.
Besides, Smith is hardly a puncher.
Kenny Anderson :)
And yes, his tactics were all wrong in that one, and the opposite in the Degale fight
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Kenny Anderson was the Scot, decent fighter is Kenny. Smith isn’t a puncher but Groves can be easy to hit, he won’t want to take too many tonight.
Kenny Anderson
that’s him.
Solid looking fighter. I like him.
Him vs Paul Smith or a rematch with Groves would be good, imo.
on the topic of college football
I just found out that Jerry Sandusky’s autobiography, released 10 years ago, is actually called Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story. That is probably the most unfortunate book title ever.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Oh good Lord, that sounds like a sick joke
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
a thriller ine very sense of the word
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I just had a small wager on these:
Burns to win.
Groves by decision
Bute by decision
Angulo to win
Quillin to win.
+
Chris Leben to beat Mark Munoz in UFC 138.
Leben and Burns being the underdogs bumped the odds up but i got almost 50-1 for that accumulator/parlay.
It’s a bit of fun.
I hate mixing similar sports
on one card. You’ll probably everything but the mma portion…
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I'm surprised at how few "under 3 1/2" picks there were for rounds in Angulo vs. Kirkland in this week's pick em
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
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Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Enzo Macc looking slim ahead of his light-heavyweight debut this coming Friday. I’d rather he retire but he wants one more crack at it.
ATTENTION
Those of you in the UK watching on TV will be ahead of the rest of us. Please don’t spoil rounds. Wait until my round recap is posted. Thank you.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Nov 5, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I think my feed is hopelessly behind and freezing constantly.
Bad Left Hook
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mine is strange though, when I refresh it goes back a 15 seconds to repeat what I’ve already seen
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Yeah it’s completely fucked.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
not unless you can get scott to a british bar in the next 30 minutes...
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Sorry mate
Private Jet is suffering from a case of non-exsitance :)
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m hoping I can round by round the two that matter at this rate.
Bad Left Hook
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I found a good feed, not sure how to tell you all though, it’s not allowed anywhere on sbnation…
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EMail it to scott if I were you
bottom of the page
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Post it. You have my permission. I’ll just hide it in a moment. Those already in here will be able to see it.
Bad Left Hook
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Another 3 hours is my guess
The show finishes at midnight here and it is 7:30 now
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
More than that
about 4-5 fights. They showed the bill top of the program
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
This guy has some awful tattoos
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Ooh, he’s upset about that stoppage. MAD!
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I'm giving up
My internet connection has been horrible lately. Can’t get it to work for more than 3 seconds at a time. Will try to follow by RBR. I suspect Katsidis will dominate. I don’t think that highly of Burns, and Kats will have a big size advantage.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I don't think he'l have that bigger size advantage
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Every time I watch a British feed, I find comfort in the fact that their commercials are as stupid as ours.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
by jrok on Nov 5, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Guru is back up and on point.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Or maybe still hiccup-y. But he’s got time to sort it and is trying.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I think Robinson was one of the first guys to have a WBO belt, right?
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Papa Robinson is very animated in the corner. Did a little bit of Teddy Atlas there.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
How old is this kid
Very good skills, would like to see him sit down a little when the target is as hittable as Sid
Boy right after I clean the litter box, here come my cats to shit in it again. Fucking assholes.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
The trick is to stop feeding them
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Serves you right for having cas then!!
Get a dog!
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
But then he'd have to take it outside!!!
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I live in an apartment. Dogs are awful in apartments. They bark, which gets you in shit, they need to be taken out even in the winter, and they don’t have enough room to be dogs.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
A good kick up the arse would sort that problem out
I hope no one from the RCPCA is in this thread…..
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the strays loves watching boxing, she stands there bobbing and weaving in front of the TV. I’m glad she can’t use weapons, evil cat.
she stands there bobbing and weaving
Should name it Fraizer
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
My dad always used to say "never invest in anything that easts"
It took me years to figure out he was talking about me.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
err, eats. you get the picture
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Took in a snow white stray
last year, got his leg broken by a car about a week ago, actually wishing he were here, messing up the box and beating up the elderly other cat. Poor fella. Still in hosp, but he’s starting to stand on it. Got a pin in it, then it has to get removed. Whole thing’s a pest.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
That’s when they like it best. They were waiting.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Oh I know. They went back-to-back.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
He's not bad
He seems to be sacrificing his power for the quickness he’s putting in his combinations though, as it doesn’t see like there’s a lot in his shots.
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
I like when they have the deep undercard fights on. It gets me in the mood, gets me talking about boxing, doesn’t require my greatest attention, and allows me to talk about cat shit while I relax.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Not legally, unless you’re in the UK.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Yeah it’s not a bad fight either. Razak is clearly “the opponent”, but he doesn’t completely stink either.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Holy Shit!
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Yeah, apparently 80 fights with 7 wins and 3 KOs. A “dangerous” opponent!
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
a dangerous opponent: very, to himself.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
He ain't bad to be fair
Doesn’t get stopped often
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's the other thing I saw, only stopped 4 times in 80 fights
A professional “opponent” indeed!
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Fair play to him
He certainly needs to know when to stop though because he might take some severe punishment once he “loses it”
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like a nice kid — has his head on straight, it appears.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Yeah. His dad looks like he’s still 21 himself.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
How old is his dad?
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
The dad-son formula is a pretty volatile one. Could go either way.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Somewhat depressingly for me
Bunce’s balding bonce looks like how i imagine mine will in ten years or so.
I have to decide between going natural, getting a “Wayne Rooney”, or wearing a wig.
+1
Shame im only 21 ffs… Mines already thinning out
Bloody Dad… il blame him
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think so. He seems like a sparring partner who’s just there to give rounds.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
yes.
But my screen froze. Who’s the other guy?
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Frankie Buglioni
Amateur making his pro debut: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=587892&cat=boxer
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
For example
Ricky Hatton was known as a “10 stone fighter”, or a “140lber”.
That’s the easiest way to convert it i reckon.
With Hatton now your looking at
A 20 stone ex fighter
or 280 pounds :)
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
And with Haye
you’re looking at a guy who seems to have lost two important stones.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
and a toe
TOE-tally! HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
ATTENTION FIGHT FREAKS
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Wow, quick pull on that plug.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Hmmm… It was a good punch, but man a fishy stoppage.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
You should always stay down for at least 8.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Right stay down for a full 8, compose yourself, then stand up. Sometimes the ref is coutning funny, though.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
in other words
5……6……..7….8…9
Not saying that happened here necessarily
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
The paying crowd won that one, apparently.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Apparently Burns vs Katsidis will be going on second from the top, before Groves vs Smith. It’s like a WWF card in 1988 where they put Hogan on fourth and let the Rockers and Hart Foundation close the show so that people don’t go away watching a Hulk Hogan match.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Nov 5, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I guess they figure the London fighter vs the Liverpool fighter is a better close than the Scot vs the Aussie. Doesn’t much matter anyway, I suppose.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Still pissed off the Burns fight wasn't in Glasgow. I would've been there hands down
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
It obvious why, because...
Katsidis is threatening to become bigger than the sport of boxing itself…
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Wow, there’s a real hard sell on Buglioni here.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Alright, Billy Joe up next.
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Yeah, he’s mine now that Gavin is such a wild card.
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I’ve given Gavin a bit of stick on here recently. This week I found out what’s happened in his personal life over the past 6 months, no wonder the lad’s head is all over the place.
+1
Same here… I actually apolgized in Matt’s thread
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Sing me a song! You're the Piano Man!
Oh wait…
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
well, I thought it was funny anyway
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
This fucking commercial again. Ice skating deoderant.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Ah, good, BoxNation will have Mee-gwell Cot-toe.
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Like Sly’s version! “THIS COT TOE GUY…”
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I hear them say “Billy Joe”, and I think Billy Joe Hobert or Billy Joe Tolliver.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
Gary Boulden looks like he may shit.
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Boulden comes out to “Beat It”. He wins the walkout music contest.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
“Bad” would have been better.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
“Good looking kid, a pin-up anywhere in the world,” or something like that. Still going on about Buglioni. Now something about bid Italians in robes hitting the floor. I have no idea what Bunce is talking about.
Sorry if we spoil something here. It sounds like your stream is running pretty late.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Wow, great story. They literally “dragged Boulden off a bar stool.”
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Boulden vs Saunders Round 1

Saunders coming at him right off. Boulden trying to keep his hands high. Saunders not landing a lot, but he’s the one pressing the action. Just letting his hands fly, but not landing. Body shot from Saunders, he can throw those with power. Right hook from Saunders gets in. Boulden shooting back some rights, but not close to landing them.
Saunders 10-9
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
How is Saunders’ chin? Has he ever been stunned hard or dropped yet?
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Not that I can remember
But he hasn’t fought anyone of note
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Saunders has a nice jab and uses it well to maintain and close distance, and mixes his punches up well. He short armed some of his power punches, though, and a lot of them seemed to slap more than land hard.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
I kind of like Saunders’ style. Not sure if he’s a world-beater, but he’s got a few nifty southpaw looks.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Boulden vs Saunders Round 2

Saunders is just bossing the hell out of this thing. Boulden is finding it more and more difficult to keep Saunders off of him. Left to the body gets in. That’s really probably Billy Joe’s best punch. Counter rights from Boulden, about all he’s got here. Little shoulder tackle from Saunders puts Boulden down, but he’s fine.
Saunders 10-9
Saunders 20-18
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Boulden vs Saunders Round 3

Body shot in again. Saunders not being reckless in there, but aggressive. You’d like to see him a bit ore accurate, though, no doubt about that. Boulden has a bit better a round, but it’s still Saunders in control.
Saunders 10-9
Saunders 30-27
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Corner tells Saunders to take him out.
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You know if their smart they’ll let Boulden give Saunders a few rounds here, rather then go for the kill.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Yeah it really wouldn’t hurt him.
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It’s a good learning experience, just in terms of controlling yourself and learning how to adapt to fatigue.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Maybe it’s because he’s still young, but Saunders just doesn’t look like a middleweight to me.
Looks more like a light-middle, imo.
Boulden vs Saunders Round 4

Nice left from Saunders, and now he’s pressing. He’s going for the kill. Boulden staggering around the ring and ties him up. Saunders really head-hunting. Now he backs off, takes his foot off the gas. Boulden just trying to find some kind of breathing room. Now Boulden throwing, not landing, and perhaps the best work he’s doing, moving around the ring and making Saunders work to find him. It’s something, anyway.
Saunders 10-9
Saunders 40-36
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Boulden vs Saunders Round 5

Boulden gaining a little confidence this round, and doing pretty well here. Saunders may have been figured out just a bit, and he may have wasted too much energy thus far. Nice flurry from Saunders, but he’s still not landing frequently enough for my liking.
Boulden 10-9
Saunders 49-46
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Bolden hits his own gloves more than he actually hits Saunders. But this is the sort of thing I was saying. Looks like Saunders pressed himself a little too hard going for the kill instead of waiting for it to come naturally. That’s why you get these guys fighters who will give them rounds… so they learn not to beat themselves.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
The choice of between-round music is certainly something. I’m not complaining, mind, just not what I’d expect.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
hahahah
Jerry Lee is ALWAYS appropriate. Boxing matches, weddings, funerals, bar mitvahs, etc…
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I’m really not that high on Saunders.
Not that i don’t think he has potential, but i still have DeGale as the best prospect from the Olympics, by quite a way too.
I’d put David Price ahead of Saunders too and i certainly don’t think BJ is a sure thing to get beyond Euro level.
Strong possibility, but once again, like i said with Groves, it’s not like his chin is a liability.
He was rocked and even stopped in the ams, but it was usually against top level fighters.
He was on his arse a hell of a lot in the amateurs.
You may have seen more of him than me but that sounds like a bit of an exaggeration to be honest, Dave.
Also
Most expected Amir Khna’s chin to have let him down by now.
Wlad K’s too.
A lot of it depends in defence and tactics.
I’d love to post my opinions about why Khan’s chin has got better recently. I don’t think I can for legal reasons though.
by Dave Oakes on Nov 5, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s special training techniques, diet and hard work!
by Dave Oakes on Nov 5, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaa
If only the Mayweather’s had your tact
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for not getting me sued!
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Khan's chin has improved since he moved up to LWW
Price doesn’t need to drain himself
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Or there is Dave's line of thinking as well lol
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus
“chin” is as much about heart and determination as it is about physical capabilities, imo.
If it doesn’t kill you (or KO you) it makes you stronger, sometimes.
They say you can’t add muscles to your chin, and i agree.
But you can build your mental strength, durability and fitness.
Honestly
I don’t think Price has got it in him. As you say, you have to want to get stronger, to say to yourself…. I am going to win this no matter what..
Then I look at Fury, and I see the opposite. He is slightly more limited skill wise, but I think he more than makes up for it with his heart and durability.
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Fury definitely has the toughness, heart and mental strength.
That and his size/reach, more than anything will get him to a pretty good level, imo.
He seems to have tightened up technically too
Since the McDermott fights
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I won’t exactly be betting on Price being the next world champ or anything but i know he has good skills and power.
More so than Fury, imo.
I would pick Fury to beat him though, because i think Fury could take his shots, but that he would eventually get to Price.
That is my thoughts on Price
pretty much to the word
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Wlad has perfected the art of protecting his chin. When he does take punches he is moving backwards instead of coming onto the punches
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Wlad is definitely a great role model for any chinny fighter. That said, I still think Wlad would get taken out if he fought someone who was good enough to hit him.
hmmm
Im really not convinced. It’s a shame because he really does have the skills to pay the bills but once he starts stepping up it will become a major factor
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the corner was very premature in telling Saunders to press for the kill. But this is all good for Saunders.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Boulden vs Saunders Round 6

Saunders back in control this round. Nice jabbing keeping him leading the action. Boulden with a weird chicken-step, almost looked like James Toney yesterday. Saunders chasing him with shots now. Boulden trying to make it chippy a bit, I think, but Saunders not really biting.
Saunders 10-9
Saunders 59-55
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Okay! Tested BJ’s chin there just a little.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
In his head, this fight is probably a nightmare and a disappoint for Saunders, but this is all great experience for him. Even Boulden’s stupid clowning.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
This will make him put the extra 10% in training
that he thought he never had
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Also maybe pace himself and fight smarter
Although it’s tough to not “go for the kill” when that’s what your trainer is screaming at you.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Oh yes
Maybe Tibbs wanted him to have this learning curve though
Big risk if that was his thinking however
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Boulden vs Saunders Round 7

Boulden with some uppercuts that push Saunders back. Billy Joe back to the body and I think that stung Boulden. Go to the body, kid. It’s your best punch. Tape comes loose on Boulden and time is called.
Saunders remains in charge after the break. Saunders closes the round with a flurry.
Saunders 10-9
Saunders 69-64
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Saunders looking much sharper this round. Settled down and back to business.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Boulden vs Saunders Round 8

Boulden has turned this into a bit of a snoozer, to be honest, but what else was he supposed to do? He’s clearly outclassed here so this is the best he could do. Boulden with a nice right to the body. Saunders just keeps coming forward. Little right hook from Saunders. Saunders with a left, then Boulden gets another break when his mouthpiece falls out. Good round for Saunders. He’s just taking it as it comes now.
Saunders 10-9
Saunders 79-73
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Boulden vs Saunders Round 9

Saunders still dictating the fight. There’s not a ton more to add. The fight has settled into a pretty familiar rhythm at this point. Boulden is refusing to be overwhelmed and Saunders isn’t going nuts trying to take his head off. Left to the body from Saunders. Another one gets there. Could have used that earlier. Big left staggers Boulden! Uppercut pushes him back! Saunders pressing with 30 seconds left in the round. He’s hunting him big time now. Boulden scampering around the ring. Just trying to survive the round. And he does.
Saunders 10-9
Saunders 89-82
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The English language version of “99 Luftbalons” should be banned.
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I have to say, this turned out to be good choice for a first 10-rounder for Saunders. Bolden isn’t any good at all, but he’s tough, he’s there to win, he’s got some endurance and made a fight of it at times.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
The British "Sugar Poo" maybe!
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Boulden vs Saunders Round 10

Another uppercut gets in there and Saunders wants the stoppage. He doesn’t want to go the full ten here. Right hook gets Boulden again. Boulden still doing a good job not getting hit flush very often. Uppercut again lands, this time with the right hand. Boulden tying up. Right and a FLUSH left. Big left again! Boulden getting hammered now. 80 seconds left. Tough kid, but he’s now getting overwhelmed. Left to the body from Saunders. Boulden hanging on. He might make the final bell — probably will with 30 seconds to go. Crowd booing but whatever.
Saunders 10-9
Saunders 99-91
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Props to Boulden for being a tough bastard, and to the ref for resisting the urge for a premature stoppage there in the 10th.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
and to the ref for resisting the urge for a premature stoppage there in the 10th.
Yeah, takes a bit of the bad taste out of the Buglioni All Star Italian Robes Premiere.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Really?
They’re still talking about Big Italian Robes???
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Official Ref's Score: 99-92
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At this level he does
I think it is only British level the judges are appointed
Im sure Dave will know for sure
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Imagine the Ref judging prizefighter
Shocking decs after shocking decs…..
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That seems like a big burden for the ref though… scoring while keeping an eye on the fighters? I wouldn’t want that responsibiity
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
Saunders saying the right things. That it’s great experience fighting someone who refuses to go away or fold up.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Saunders and Paul Williams should get into an epic “You know what I mean” debate.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Another fight before Burns vs Katsidis.
Tom Bowen (3-2, 0 KO) vs George Michael Carmen (6-0, 0 KO)
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Wow, I didn’t realize they were doing Brutus the Barber Beefcake first.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Strange order of bouts, here.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
What do you expect, have you seen the side of the road those guys drive on?
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It’s odd because this is the fight I’m used to watching first. Not that Carmen is terrible, but this is the builder fight you see early.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
+1
fights usually go from little known kids to the biggest and best last. What with Saunder being on before this, and with Burns on next… weird
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, just seems like the shuffled the deck one card funny
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-- Fritzie Zivic
RED RIVER ROCK
Hey shut up commentators. Great song.
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This from the country that f’ed up “Winter Wonderland???”
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Coming from a country that loves country & Western....
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Coming from a country that gave us Boy George....
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Coming from the country that.... that....
im out….
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha
THE BOY GEORGE GAMBIT!
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Was he the one that song Cum on a Chameleon?
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
REC'D
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-- Fritzie Zivic
I suspect that was the idea. Freak out the squares. Down with the establishment.
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You’re walkin’ on the fightin’ side of me.
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Hey shut up DrRck. Great song.
OK I’m probably alone here. Me and the music chooser.
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That’s becoming a bit David Lynch now.
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Carmen also trained by dad.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I know most of you are watching this fight that doesn't matter...
but on the subject of music, over in MMA land Chris Leben is coming out to REM, now if there’s a great band that is DEFINITELY not fight music… it’d be my friend Michael Stipe…. :)
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I don’t know about that. The Song “Shiny Happy People” always made me want to punch someone in the face.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Untrue. “What’s the Frequency, Kenneth?” has a great opening riff, and I always thought it would be funny to come out to “Shiny Happy People” or “Losing My Religion,” the latter so that people would wonder not if I’m deep, but HOW deep must I be?
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Metallica, talking heads, soundgarden, pearl jam, tool, etc etc etc
Americans rule
Manning out for season + Texans "improved" defense = Texans AFC South Division CHAMPS
by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nah those bands are all time classics. Throw in frank zappa, the entire genre of blues/funk/soul and America rules all
Oh yeah and wu-tang clan :)
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by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 5:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s kind of funny listening to these dorks talk about music as if they have better taste. What do you suppose Enzo Maccarinelli listens to? Linkin Park?
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Tool
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Haha, Stereophonics. They did a good Dylan cover and most of their songs were of the exact same forgettable quality. I do like “Madame Helga” quite a bit still.
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Definitely Stereophonics. I bet Slapzaghe loves them too.
If you’re Welsh you’ve got to love the ’Phonics.
Aye, i know you lot love your rugby.
It’s not real rugby though is it?
They play the real stuff (league) up here in the north. :)
Good to see you back Dafs.
They play the real stuff (league) up here in the north. :)
Pfffffft
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on.
That union is shit.
No organisation or anything.
It only improved because they copied league and nicked half of our best players.
:)
I keed
I never really had any exposure to League…. Although My old man has always said Rugby League players are meant to be harder than Union (And he was a Union man too)
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
And I agree
Even I find it hard to understand the rules of Union
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t say they were harder, SS.
Them union guys all just pile in and jump on one another’s heads half the time.
It’s not like they are lightweight either.
I was only joking though.
My dad played pro league and i have been brought up in that environment, but even he says he likes to watch union more than league a lot of the time.
The skill level is about the same, imo.
I was just pissing about. :)
Still love Billy Whizz
Boy could he run
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ace of Base
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Remember those assholes? Holy shit
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-- Fritzie Zivic
DO I?
ALL THAT SHE WANTS
IS ANOTHER BABY
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Is that what she was saying???
I thought she was going to market.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
While we’re on the subject of music and there are some Brits here, do any of you not hate Oasis? And if so, have you heard Noel’s solo album? And if so, what did you think? I thought it was pretty decent! And slightly better than Beady Eye.
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Yeah, that’s pretty much where I had it.
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As a Manchester United fan i'd love to hate Oasis
But they are far too good. Far too many Choones!
And no I havn’t hear Noel’s solo Album yet
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t hate Oasis. My mate got the Noel album and says its good. The album has also done really well and the tour has sold out really quickly. Beady Eye have pretty much been left for dead in terms of popularity, not that popularity = good in British music.
Noel is a good songwriter and I always preferred his voice to Liam. Liam tends to just annoy me.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
Liam’s vocals are turning into caricature. Like Steven Tyler after the 70s.
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Ive only heard a few oasis songs and most were too beatles worshippy for my blood. Why listen to beatles lite when you can listen to the infinitely better real thing?
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by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
they stole from a lot more bands than The Beatles, but no one ever goes on about their T. Rex worship. They had good songs.
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This fight is interminable.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Did British people really like “Fine Young Cannibals?” Or were they our fault?
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-- Fritzie Zivic
That’s all they had here too. They drove me crazy.
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Yeah, here too, but those two or three songs got head-exploding airplay. Oooh Oooooooh.
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-- Fritzie Zivic
Draw
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-- Fritzie Zivic
A draw, huh? Thanks, pansy.
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Can they award a fight to the crowd for patience?
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-- Fritzie Zivic
by jrok on Nov 5, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
A draw! That caps a stupifying 4 hour 6 rounbd fight.
by DrRck on Nov 5, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
From Amir Khan: “Good luck to burns, my money is on him. Katsidis is one dimensional & a 3 round fighter, he got lucky against mitchell”
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I take back my statment about Khan talking sense when not talking about himself
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Five.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 5, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What was that fight, a 125-rounder?
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
From Gary Lockett: “Carmen lost that, ref copped out – Carmen would be better sticking to gelling his hair in the mirror because he ain’t a fighter!!”
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Time for a five-hour energy and some pretzel sticks. It’s a real party up in here. I shouldn’t have gotten up at 4am.
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He really “did the work” with Nicky Cook.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Punch the clock
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Oh that reminds me. In the spirit of friendship, thank you Brits for Elvis Costello. Just, not lately.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I think he’s still…alright.
I keep waiting for Elvis and Van Morrison to make a duet ultimate pointless old man album.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 5, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahahah
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
He’s one of the most miserable men I’ve ever been exposed to. Wonderful run of albums at the beginning of his career though.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Steve Bunce, the first man to ever predict a prolonged career for Michael Katsidis.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Hahahah
Did he really say that.
God I love Buncey
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Every time it starts at karaoke I groan audibly. Just naturally.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I actually hear the sound effect of a gun loading when those first notes start up
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
There was a time it was cute. But after the 9 millionth fucking moron dead notes it into your ears while eating the microphone, it has lost all appeal.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
SweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeSHUTTHEFUCKUP
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Tex mexican legend?
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Bunce has gone insane. “Texicans!” Juan Diaz is a legend.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
we prefer the name "tex-mex"
Manning out for season + Texans "improved" defense = Texans AFC South Division CHAMPS
by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Would probably ban you if you did. I should make that an official rule.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
All the Highwaymen are great... every single one of them
and that’s coming from a guy that’s not a country music fan…
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Waylon Jennings is my single favorite artist of all-time. Cash is top five. Willie top 15. Kristofferson probably top 40.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Haggard?
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
We did forget Haggard... lol
That’s why you’re a moderator…
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Kristofferson is sooo underrated...
I still put cash above waylon… I actually put waylon even with willie, but I can respect anyone’s order…
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Waylon’s principles, professionally, were a lot stronger than Cash’s, and I think as a result he had a stronger run in the 70s than Cash ever had consistently. He’s my kind of guy.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I’m not sure what principles you’re talking about and I don’t disagree, but I love the darkness of Cash that bleeds through no matter… the same reason I like Nick Cave even though there are a hundred people who are technically better…
There’s just that dark soul that comes through the art, you can’t fake that…
I would understand like Waylon or Merle more though..
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Waylon was basically the first country artist to tell labels to fuck off and get his own way. No more Nashville team production. His own band that he picked, etc. He was the man.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Nov 5, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Texican sounds like a Taco Bell sandwich with 5% authentic “meat by-product.”
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
This is the main event of the evening!
Bullshit. I won’t believe it until they actually start fighting.
Him and that stupid fucking helmet.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
IT'S ENGLAND
They boo Christmas and throw bottles at puppies over there!
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
and drive on the wrong side of the road and have strange bout orders...
I love those guys….
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You know, if Katsidis ever fights for another world championship, they might want to let him wear that helmet during the actual fight. Worried about this dude.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Are those women in the ring holding up banners for a ’gentleman’s club’?
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 6:01 PM EDT reply actions
OHHHHHH WE'RE HALFWAY THERE
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
BON JOVI
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Right im taking a stand
Stevie G is a MUPPET….
Yeah take that
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m from close enough to New Jersey that I’m forced to take sides in the great Bon Jovi/Springstein jihad. I’m on the Bon Jovi side.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re an idiot. No offense.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Haha I think that’s the first time in six years I’ve called someone a name on the site. Congratulations!
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
BANNED
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
by jrok on Nov 5, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol holy shit
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by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
None taken
I’ve got nothing against Springsteen, but it’s not my thing.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That's only because your not a chick with really tall hair from New Jersey
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Johnny used to work on the docks. NOW HE WEARS HOT PANTS AND PERMS HIS HAIR.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I always love when Bon Jovi tries to write a Springsteen song. Take it easy, champs.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
He gets a really serious look on his face, like he’s buying an Arena Football team.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
This has got to be one of the busiest Brit fight threads for quite some time.
Good to see so many showing an interest.
Katsidis vs Burns Round 1

Katsidis pressuring and chasing right away. Swinging wide right hands. Banging to the body with Burns’ hands up high. First minute is all Katsidis. Burns chops a right hand in. Uppercut from Burns lands nicely. Burns getting some distance now and Katsidis easing up. Think he might have been looking to see if he could catch Burns very cold.
Katsidis puts him on the ropes, bangs but gets blocked, and Burns wrestles his way off. Katsidis with another charge. Really tearing to the body, not a bad idea. He’ll need to take Burns’ legs away. Burns boxing nicely, and not looking at all panicked when Katsidis rushes him. Right hand from Burns. Little counter shots sneaking in. I thought Burns overall did the better work here.
Burns 10-9
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Why do people like them so much...
there was another pseudo comedy band who’s name slips my mind that were great…
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Had a second. It had a good song on it. Or three.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
HOLD UP
my phone doesn’t put up the avatars, so i’ve just realized that matt mosley = matt (yorkshire). is this true?
Manning out for season + Texans "improved" defense = Texans AFC South Division CHAMPS
by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions
thanks for clearing that up. i’ve only been on BLH Mobile for the past few days, so i just noticed the name change
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by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Katsidis vs Burns Round 2

Burns with a nice right hand. Controlling distance to start the round. Katsidis is just bull-rushing him. If he can catch him, it’ll work, but otherwise it’s a strategy easily neutralized, and Burns is doing nicely so far. Right hand by Burns, and then an uppercut just misses. Burns keeping distance very well — he’s doing everything exactly right, and he looks VERY confident in there. Throwing meaningful right hands behind his jab. Michael coming in, getting close, and then not throwing. This is what we saw him do against Marquez after the first few rounds, too. Katsidis to the body now as he gets Burns on the ropes.
Burns 10-9
Burns 20-18
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Well, my stream is freezing every three seconds, so I guess I’m following the RBR for a bit.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions
has katsidis finally fixed that butt ugly right hand?
Manning out for season + Texans "improved" defense = Texans AFC South Division CHAMPS
by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
I noticed this in the Marquez fight. I really don’t like how Kat throws the overhand right.
It’s really bad technique.
it’s literally the worst looking right hand ever thrown
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by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, the word “lovely” is always abused on these British broadcasts. Everything is “lovely.”
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
or “brilliant”
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by battle axe of doom on Nov 5, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
racists...
They’re sick of us calling everything “awesome”… this is how they get even…
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Katsidis vs Burns Round 3

Katsidis has him on the ropes, but Burns cuonters off with a nice uppercut. And another one. that punch is there, but then most punches are with Katsidis. MK continues to bull right at him. Another uppercut gets in. Burns again with the uppercut. It’s all pressure and little else from Katsidis, and he’s being picked apart with counters. Katsidis may be digging hard enough to break Burns down eventually, but he’s going to be losing the fight until then. Burns just slapping him around at points, making him look bad. Burns digs a left hook to the body. Katsidis popped again and his head snaps back. Left hook to the body again by Burns. Katsidis just not landing enough with all the pressure. He looks slow, a bit trigger-shy (even throwing), and he’s not getting big shots in.
Burns 10-9
Burns 30-27
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
The longer it goes, the better it is for Burns
"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry
As long as he don't tire it will be Burns all night long
Great matchmaking by Dean Powell if that is the case
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Burns is hiding behind his gloves pretty effectively, but there’s not a ton of really effective counters. Okay connects, but no mustard.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Someone may have mentioned this already but i’ve had a few drinks.
When the hell did they start playing music between rounds?
Is this a new thing or what.
I’m not sure i like it much.
none between this round though
What power do you have?
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s what inspired all our music talk…
and it’s what made us find out that someone can actually like Bon Jovi more than Springsteen…
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Katsidis vs Burns Round 4

Katsidis with a right. Burns jabbing, then swings wildly. Left hook and a right from Burns, neither land. Katsidis pushing him to the ropes once again. Now trying to measure him. Just trying to break him right the hell down. Burns with wide shots that cuff Katsidis a bit. Katsidis not getting hit with quite as many big shots this round. Left to the body, left upstairs from Burns. Burns shoots an uppercut inside, Katsidis gets to the body. Commentator wonders if shots that didn’t look low were low. Katsidis gets him on the ropes and tries desperately to feint him into opening up, but it doesn’t happen. Better round for Katsidis, but I still give it to Burns. Katsidis with a bit of a late shot after the bell.
Burns 10-9
Burns 40-36
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Burns looks pretty good, no power but nice style and technique.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
The uppercuts off the back foot are working pretty well for Burns so far. It will be interesting to see if he can turn it around and control the action at some point.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Well I'm going to go out on a limb here and say
the Kat is shot, even his power looks silly.
Even in this round he looks like the little engine that can’t
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I think Kats won this one.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Katsidis vs Burns Round 5

Burns coming out in the fifth leading the action, jabbing and firing his right hand. Nothing special, but you don’t need special with Katsidis, just patient and intelligent. Burns has that. Katsidis just FIRES right hands with Burns on the ropes, maybe one of the few got through the guard a bit. Katsidis to the body, Burns gets back. Katsidis not pushing him to the ropes as much in this round. Now he gets him there, and a nice uppercut gets in. Burns comes back with counters and gets off, but Katsidis is putting on some good pressure now, not just pressure. And Katsidis to his credit, is sticking with the game plan. Burns to the body. Burns badly misses a wild left hook. Nasty body shots from Katsidis, and Burns wrestles him across the ring. Referee just lets them go.
Hey, good refereeing. Just now noticed him.
Katsidis 10-9
Burns 49-46
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Those rights being fired were pretty cool... not sure what got through though
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10-9 Katsidis, 49-46 Burns.
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Kat starting to look gassed already.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
maybe not
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Great link-up Richard Keys.
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Kats might have beat up Ricky’s arms quite a bit. He’s starting to hold them a little limper.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Burns vs Katsidis Round 6

Burns pressing Katsidis to the ropes to start this round, and Katsidis wings a left hook counter that scrapes Burns. Back to the more natural dynamic after that, but Burns spins Katsidis around and they jostle a bit. Burns throwing the jab to control the fight again. Katsidis slowing down big-time this round. Hook to the body from Burns. Katsidis pounds the body on the ropes again. Right hands from Katsidis again, one lands nicely. Uppercut from Katsidis. Winnable round with 30 seconds left. Right hand from Burns. Katsidis again throwing countless right hands on the ropes, none getting in. He has just an awful right hand. Burns with a shot upstairs, then a hook to the body, then the jab.
Burns 10-9
Burns 59-55
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Kats round
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Close round
Burns threw some “lovely” punches that were left on the gloves, though
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Rawling: Most of Kats victories have come early.
Well, there was the Kevin Mitchell one, but most of the other big winshave gone to points.
Frankly, Burns isn’t very active at all in this round. Katsidis is pressing, and the counters really aren’t impressive.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
he’s pressing but… the jab is getting through.. I can see this one to kat though… barely
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Nah, this one went to Kats bigtime.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Burns vs Katsidis Round 7

Burns’ tape comes loose in the first minute, quick break. Katsidis just constantly moving forward. Katsidis popping to the body, little peppering shots that mean little but mean a little. Burns HAMMERING to the body. Burns with one shot better than all those that Katsidis landed in there. Katsidis trying to break down the guard. He’s chasing well and Burns isn’t doing a lot this round. Katsidis pushes him to the ropes again, unloads, Burns defends well. Katsidis to the body, those are landing. Shots upstairs, those are not. Burns taking a round off, perhaps. Not doing a lot. Nice left hook from Burns in counter. Katsidis comes back with a right.
Katsidis 10-9
Burns 68-65
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Burns’ arms have to feel really heavy right now.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Burns is just retreating and and barely throwing right now. He may be playing cat and mouse, but it’s getting harder to see these rounds for Burns.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Burns vs Katsidis Round 8

Katsidis’ pressure seems to be worrying Burns just a tick more right now. But Burns firing those counters again. Still, he can’t push Katsidis back no matter what he does. Katsidis pouring it on on the ropes again. tape loose on Burns again, another quick break. Katsidis with a left. Boy he’s REALLY bringing it the last two rounds. Not all of this is getting in, of course, but Burns is looking uncomfortable more and more. Burns with some nice shots to the body. But nothing is backing Katsidis down. I don’t think Burns can really hurt him at all. Right from Burns, but then Katsidis just pushes him right back to the ropes. Burns back to the body again. Katsidis is a man’s man and walks through it. I mean these are good punches — Burns is again landing good, clean shots in the last half of the round.
Katsidis 10-9, barely, on volume
Burns 77-75
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
just cued in right now for round 8
is this as good as a fight as it looks in this round? Burns ahead? interesting.
by Leon Cris Gamboa on Nov 5, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions
Good fight. Good style clash.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
And elbows, and biceps
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
77-75 Burns, Katsidis doesn't need rounds though...
If he wins the last four I doubt he’ll get the decision.
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Scot vs Aussie in London. Not the ideal setting. Should’ve been Glasgow.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
It originally announced in Glasgow. Hell a Glasgow crowd would be going insane now.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
There probably going mad in Glasgow anyway
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
all that karoke they've been doing in between rounds
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It's because of the volume.
I think the crowd thinks Burns is losing, now.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
And I suspect Katsidis knows that too.
by Verklemptomaniac on Nov 5, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I first saw Burns years ago and to be honest i thought he was somewhat dog shit.
But he’s really improved as time has gone on.
Not that i’m saying he’s wordl class or anyhting, but i think he’s close to it.
Big improvements over the last year or two.
Solid jab.
Huh?
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Katsidis vs Burns Round 9

Burns back to the jab, then finds that right uppercut again. Burns trying to stay off the ropes more this round, maybe not as comfortable countering off as he was earlier. He’s also having a very easy time at center ring, or at least a much easier time than he is with his back to the ropes. Burns with a hard body shot. Body shots from Katsids, thudding shots. Burns slowing down now as Katsidis rips away to the body. Burns back to the body. This is a hard round right here. These guys are fighting like hell. Katsidis going through Burns’ offense, but Burns still landing. Uppercut, and then a left hook. Katsidis puts him right back on the ropes. Burns gets the momentum back.
Burns 10-9
Burns 87-84
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Yeah staying off the ropes seems to be key here right?
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Kats finding the left hook now.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Good fight.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I'm personally seeing more quality getting through from burns...
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“Katsidis has been the one forcing the pace in this round” is delusional. He’s been forcing the pace in almost every round, and he won this one WIDE.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Katsidis vs Burns Round 10

Katsidis continues to just absolutely pour on the pressure, and he’s dominating the opening moments of this round and shutting Burns down. Left hook from Katsidis, but not a lot on it. Series of them afterward. He’s bullying the shit out of Ricky Burns this round, and Burns looks really uncomfortable. Left hook to the body by Burns. HARD left hook from Katsidis shakes Burns a little bit. That was the first really, really clean left hook he’s gotten to the head in a while. Burns being backed down and physically overwhelmed this round. Burns is really being taken into DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN THE DEEEEEEP WATEEEEERS. I mean this round is all Katsidis. A couple uppercuts from Burns, but Burns is having serious issues. Katsidis is fighting his ass off. Tape was loose for a while, and finally Burns gets a break when the action slows for a second. Big Katsidis round.
Katsidis 10-9
Burns 96-94
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Burns has been on his bike for several rounds now. We haven’t even heard a “lovely” in more than a round.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
LOVELY TIMING
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Burns vs Katsidis Round 11

Katsidis storms at him again to start this round. The man is a machine, and he may not be the guy he was a few years ago, but he’s a couple steps from shot. His gas tank has been incredible with this relentless pressure.
Burns trying to jab. Katsidis gets him right back on the ropes. Burns not countering as much anymore in those situations, more waiting for a moment to get out with his feet. Body shot from Burns. Katsidis not landing a lot this round, but then neither is Burns. More from Burns so far though. A minute to go. Good counter right from Burns. Burns with another nice right hand near the end of the round.
Burns 10-9
Burns 106-103
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I’ve only been half watching this but i honestly think Burns is ahead.
He’s landed the better quality shots, imo.
Whatever happens put a rematch on in Scotland.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
Yeah, well Burns is holding on.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Katsidid is winning this round “on work rate alone?” Okay.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Katsidis might win
I recall that Froch won against Direll because Direll was too “negative.”
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Katsidis vs Burns Round 12

Katsidis REALLY coming hard now, throwing everything he’s got with both hands as Burns tries to box. Burns complains of a shot to the back of the head. Katsidis warned. Burns trying to tie him up. I think Burns believes this is in the bag. Burns on his bike. Katsidis digs to the body again, Burns ties him up and complains again of Katsidis going to the back of the head. Ref mostly ignores this one. Right hand from Katsidis, Burns covers up again, ties him up again, and wrestles off the ropes. Just trying to kill time. Burns jabbing to keep Katsidis at bay as long as he can, then tying him up when he gets him to the ropes. Glove tape is loose once again. Nice shot from Burns, but Katsidis just rolling right at him. Quick break to fix the load of tape dangling.
30 seconds to go!
Katsidis throwing everything he can. Burns with a little right. Katsidis giong for broke. He takes the round and fights through the bell, but that’s just the way it is.
Katsidis 10-9
Burns 115-113
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Burns’ jab was a great weapon for him tonight.
The uppercut too.
On top of that he showed a lot of heart.
“Body language speaks volumes.” Well. I guess.
Real good fight.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
There's not a lot about Burns
Good jab. Quite good Lateral movement. Good strong guard….. What he does he does very well
Most on Twitter have it 15-13 for Burns, a few draws. @ausboxing had it 7-5 for Katsidis.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Pretty good...
I rescind my statement about saying Katsidis is shot though…. he’s still a good fight tot watch
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BURNS VS KATSIDIS SCORES
117-112
117-111
117-111
Ricky Burns by unanimous decision
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Not really
I mean, they don’t tell the story of the fight at all, but it’s not a “robbery” or anything.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Yeah, I know
You could even make a pretty good argument for a draw here. But the hometown guy always gets a few extra rounds.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Only a one round difference between Scott and me
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
BECAUSE IT IS A FIGHT
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
But don’t worry.
You’ve always got your Pick ’Em game scores to back up your big opinion of yourself.
:D
this can end
In fact I thought it had.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
It’s not a big thing, but it’s done is all. Y’all made your points. Just stepping in to referee, as I do, lest it turn into a boxing forum up in here.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Started what? I must have missed something here.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Katsidis nods. Thought scores were wide, but right guy won, IMO.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Yeah, wide cards, but pretty much expected.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Not in England
Lovelier punches get the weight.
(Just kidding England.)
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I wonder if Warren puts Burns in against Mitchell for a ‘world’ title.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
I’m not sure what’s going on with Mitchell out of the ring at the minute. He might not fight again for a while.
Stillinto the drugs iv heard
Apparntly he was always into that kind of shit when he was young
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Big props to him
Really turned Burns into a much better fighter than anyone would have thought two years ago
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, my feed was so bad I “watched” most of it here, though I did see about 1/2 of it, and Burns was winning 4 of the 6 I actually saw. Plus, I picked him, which all by itself means the right man won.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
by BoxAnne on Nov 5, 2011 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
There's something pleasingly simple about it
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m just a sucker for technicians. Burns fought a little differently than I expected tonight, less finesse than I’ve seen from him in the past.
You see I prefer the Mayweather's of the world
with a little more “flash”. More headmovement, cleaner counter punching. But I like what Burns does too
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Burns catches more punches with his guard
I prefer someone to slip and punish is what Im trying to say
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats funny
It’s usually the scowsers pleadin guilty
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I love it when people say Cheshire is posh, parts of it are rough as a bear’s arse.I’m sure it’s the same with Hampshire?
Sure thing
I come from… well not the nicest part put it that way :)
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Spoil yourself, have a bit of heroin.
Only joking, I know not all Scots are on it, just the majority of them!
I live in the heroin capital of Ayrshire so it’s always an option ;)
by Petersen Leigh on Nov 5, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit I feel like I’ve been watching fights with all freaks for three solid days, now. Probably just due to the Carmen fight and Toney-Lebebebe, though.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
It does feel like when I was a kid and would spend the whole fucking afternoon-evening at the fights.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Like, that was the WHOLE DAY
Fight day-night
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
As a boxing blogger, these are my favorite days. These make the “It’s Tuesday and Manny Pacquiao took a shit! Here’s an update!” days worth it.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Right
All us REAL idiots who sit around watching Carmen-Bowen. WE ARE THE BOXING FANS.
(though, I think we got sidetracked with music)
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
“And there is David Haye. In the ring, with his great friend, George Groves.”
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
"DAVID HAYE! HOW IS YOUR PINKY TOE? IS IT LOVELY?"
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
"Toe-to-toe sort of fight...
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Groves vs Smith Round 1

Groves twitchy to start, as he will be. When he’s about 35 that’s gonna really be bad. He’ll look like Shane Mosley on steroids. I mean. Oops.
(Mosley didn’t do steroids, just EPO.)
Anyway, Smith looking to land big shots in counter, and did get a right hand in early. Groves misses a right. Very much a feeling-out round. Groves with a right late, Smith fires away. Groves jabbing. Good left hook by Smith near the bell. That could have been trouble.
Groves 10-9, but a tight round
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Smith did a bit more business in that round than they’re giving him credit for
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Yeah I thought it was closer than they let on.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Groves vs Smith Round 2

And down goes Paul Smith, hammered with a hard shot about a minute in, and he does not look good. BIG RIGHT AND SMITH IS DOWN AGAIN AND THE FIGHT IS STOPPED! Cannot blame the ref. Smith looked gone. Still looks half-gone as he stumbles around arguing.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Got up too fast!
(Dave Oakes, I’m looking at you!)
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
+1
My first thought when he went down the 2nd time was the Ref stopped it too early… and then it became apparant that im a tool
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlu4R_ZobU0
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
(although, to be fair... he's no Holmes)
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
You know, I liked this fight and was looking forward to it, but needing the little break between this and Bute-Johnson, I can’t complain about the early ending.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Yup, sent him to the wrong side of queer street
by Petersen Leigh on Nov 5, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Right NOW
Just as your posing for photograpghs
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright well, we’ll be back in 90 minutes for the Bute vs Johnson show.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Alright, SHIT! Do I see you assholes on the Johnson-Bute thread now, or is it Drunk’O’Clock in England. Either way, God Speed!
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Im sure as hell staying up for Bute
Don’t have football in the morning :)
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The show starts at 12 onboxnation
But I rekon around 3ish
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Maccraneli?
Apparntly he is fighting at light Heavy next week.
Cringe!!!
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Shamethey havn't put that idea on the scrapheap
is Warren Promoting it? He should know better
by Sweet science on Nov 5, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions

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