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Bute vs Johnson: Glen Johnson's Habit of Complaining Becoming Ridiculous

Glen Johnson's complaints over losing last night deserve the criticism that a less-liked fighter would receive. (Photo by Tom Casino/SHOWTIME)

Last night in Quebec City, Lucian Bute cruised past Glen Johnson with a near-shutout victory on the scorecards. There isn't a lot more to say about the boring, one-sided decision than we said last night, but there is more to say about something that happened after.

After the fight, Glen Johnson said, " "I thought I won the fight. I don’t think he was landing anything. ... My right arm swelled up in about the fourth round so I couldn’t throw my big right hand. I basically beat him with one hand. ... It’s tough winning the fights on the road in these guys’ hometowns."

Now, I know that fighters have to talk, or at least they think they do, so at minimum, this isn't unusual. But it's really, really absurd, and doesn't lend itself well to Johnson's image as the gentleman fighter, an honest working man's pugilist who may not have ever had A-level skill, but became, for a time, an A-level fighter.

Glen Johnson has gotten some bum decisions in his time. A good number of his 16 losses were decisions that could have gone his way, some that should have. But Johnson has gotten so used to complaining about being robbed that he apparently doesn't believe it's even possible for him to lose decisions any longer.

Johnson had complaints after losses to Carl Froch and Tavoris Cloud. OK, those I can live with. They were competitive fights, and while I believe he did indeed deserve the Ls put on his record, at least they were within the realm of reality.

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But last night Johnson did nothing effectively. The idea that Bute wasn't landing anything when Bute grossly outlanded Johnson and outworked the veteran in everything but exhibition-only jabs is preposterous. Maybe Johnson really knows that and just had to go into his routine. Or maybe he's become delusional, and the idea of him being such a lovely human being and admirable fighter has given him the slack to do it without fear of being called out for a level of absurd whining that would have boxing fans jumping all over someone like Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, David Haye, Antonio Margarito, Andre Dirrell, Carl Froch, Anthony Mundine, etc.

You know, your villains. Not white hat Glen Johnson.

This isn't even the first time this has happened. After he was routed and made to look old in his 2009 rematch with Chad Dawson, which was less one-sided than this one although scored far too close by two of the ringside judges, he complained then that he thought he'd won.

At least that time, two of the judges gave him a fool's argument with their 115-113 scores. And at least that time, Johnson showed some fire in the ring, and though easily controlled by Dawson for nearly the entire fight, Johnson gave the impression he was trying to make Dawson uncomfortable. Or beat him. Or anything.

Last night's display against Bute had nothing of the sort. Johnson came out and anchored himself at a distance that gave him no shot to win the fight. He was consistently short on just about everything he threw. His greatest chance in the fight was to get inside, which he often does, and to make his opponent uncomfortable, which is his bread and butter.

He didn't do it. He stayed there. Outside. The only time anyone pressured to get closer, it was Bute, knowing for certain that Johnson's no-steam shots weren't going to hurt him.

Bute showed proper respect early. When it became clear that his sparring buddy wasn't going to do more than give him a workout, he made a few charges.

Johnson took them, seemed to feel many of Bute's shots, and just waited. And waited. And stood there. And stood there.

Sure, he threw his hands a good bit. But with no intent. With no passion.

Glen Johnson is a good fighter. He's a good guy. Whatever happened last night is what it is. I have no great desire to spend much more thought on Bute vs Johnson. Bute wins and goes forward. Johnson lost, clear and fair and square, and largely because he didn't fight like he was Glen Johnson. Maybe he would have lost anyway, but he at least could have given himself the chance to make his complaints look remotely valid.

Maybe he had the complaint on his mind more than the fight.

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Certainly was a very strange performance from Johnson. Surly he was not there to pick up a paycheck…. was he?

As for his complaining…. Somone should welcome him back to Earth

by Sweet science on Nov 6, 2011 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Surly he was not there to pick up a paycheck…. was he?

Again — if he were someone who didn’t get so many “aw respect bro respect” columns written about him, would anyone watch that fight and dismiss the possibility?

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 6, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

As you say

If he wanted to win the fight, he had to walk him down and apply pressure. I can’t remember him throwing a hook or an uppercut, it was all jab jab jab, Right cross.

So yes, I think he was just there for a pay check. Sad times for any G Johnson fans.

by Sweet science on Nov 6, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Surly he was not there to pick up a paycheck…. was he?

It’s tough to say and to think, but how could you not?

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 6, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Boxanne said on another thread

This is why friends should not fight.

Because in most cases, they don’t fight

by Sweet science on Nov 6, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

And there are even some freaks out there who want “Klitschko vs. Klitschko.” How would anyone want to inflict that on the world?

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 6, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The same sadists who gave us Joes Hopkins 2 ?

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably

They should be taken out and shot!

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 6, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Very humane of you jrok, I mean at least you want to take them out before shooting them! :-)

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

K v K would to me be a travesty and an offense to basic decency.

by DrRck on Nov 6, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, yes. But there are those—I saw on some other site one time a guy complaining that they wouldn’t do it because “it would spoil Christmas.” I’m real glad I don’t have to coexist with that guy.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 6, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Tell that to Richie Woodhall! ;-)

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree that Glen should have just shut the hell up after that performance he turned in last night, but it’s almost his catchphrase at this point in his career. It would be like telling ReRun to stop saying “What’s happening!” or the Fonz to stop saying “Ayyyyyyyyyy.”

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 6, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

Oh wait, fuck, did ReRun say that? Or am I mixing it up with Duane Wayne saying “Hey Hey Hey.”

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 6, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Dunno, but the Fonzie bit was right.

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I should have gone with Tony Danza anyway, since this is boxing. " Ayyy oh, oh ayyy!"

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 6, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Johnson was there just to collect a check. I think he was very aware of Bute’s ability to counter aggressiveness with wicked KO- type uppercuts to the body.

So he fought more cautiously, and tried to outbox him………..and lost practically every rd.

by DPlainview on Nov 6, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

SS, not watched the re run yet on BoxNation, was the Kirkland fight on that show?
From what Scott and the others were sayin earlier, it was a brutal fight.

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

It was a brutal round

The other five were more like aftershocks. Angulo’s body took five rounds to realize it was dead.

Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic

by jrok on Nov 6, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

A brutal, adrenalin-rushing round followed by five rounds of barbaric savagery.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 6, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Kirkland was on Sky

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 6, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

No Skysports ran the Kirkland bout this morning

its on 8 15 on sky sports 3 tonight.

I hope for your sake you have Sky Sports

by Sweet science on Nov 6, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahh…. ok, Thanks, I hoped it was on BN.

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

That's going subscription on 30th November

I think they said last night

Bastards are making me pay for Cotto Margo card…. Not that I mind to be honest… but they could have hold fire for another month

by Sweet science on Nov 6, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll take up the subs, only cos I binned sky a few months back though.

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Warren’s being very smart and just going for it with the channel. His cards are his cards, but he’s also got the deal with Sauerland, picking up good American/Canadian cards, and grabbed Lebedev vs Toney. Not because Lebedev-Toney is some great fight, but because his channel is NOTHING BUT BOXING, so he’s just picking up everything, because there’s room in the afternoon on Friday for live boxing on the boxing channel.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Nov 6, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

All it needs now is to up the definition to HD.

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Find a friend with Sky, or a pub, just for round 1. Worth it, and it’s not like you’d be out all night, it’s a short fight.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 6, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, but just watched the whole fight on YT.

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

hope you enjoyed.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 6, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Who knows? It’s possible he really did convince himself he had won, or maybe he just felt he it was a good career move to put up a front. Either way, he was wrong, and when you make James Toney look classy by comparison in your post-fight interview, that’s not good, especially when your reputation is for classy.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Nov 6, 2011 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

At a certain point, imo

Every one of them goes into complete, utterly sincere, absolute denial. Where denial = delusion.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 6, 2011 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve read that exact same paragraph before BA, it was in a dictionary under “Audley Harrison”

by Phill on Nov 6, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Nov 6, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

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