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For years we have heard that HBO fighters and promotional darlings are protected. Now, we get a connected money fighter who loses, and we have to hear about some other kind of scheme. More than ever boxing— the only sport in the world whose rules are interpreted based solely on the biases and prejudices of its spectators—suggests a quote from William Kennedy: "We are all in a conspiracy against the next man." Read more from The Cruelest Sport

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—Jimmy Cannon

by Boss Man on Dec 11, 2011 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

Carlos has a perspective, at all times. I generally love it, but it isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. His count of Khan pushes doesn’t seem biased to me, though, even if I haven’t tried to take my own.

by El Destruyo on Dec 11, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEpQpOU5i8w

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 14, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not being a smartass here, but I do wonder if you lost money on this fight. I haven’t heard you this one-sided on a fight, that I can recall.

I pretty much saw the fight the way the author of the linked article saw it.

And it’s an entertaining article, throws a little “clever” in there.

"While he may strike hard blows, he is not at liberty to strike foul ones." J. Sutherland.

by lcollins1 on Dec 11, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

the anti Khan bile flows

What about Petersons endless leading with the head? The referee warned him countless times but took no point. Like it or not big fighters push down on smaller digthers lwading with their heads, Jesus Klitscho and Hopkins have made careers out of it. But no one has ever complained until it comes to a boy called Khan go figure.

by Dirk Thrust on Dec 12, 2011 3:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

A fighter leading with the head against someone as fast as Khan should be a blessing. He should be able to get off a couple of straight punches and step to the side before that head ever becomes a problem. Amir Khan is good at punching, but he is not good at boxing. The way to solve this problem is seriously to get a different trainer. Khan has made some great strides under Freddie Roach, but Freddie doesn’t have the tools to teach slick boxing technique.

"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi

by Waldo Rastel on Dec 12, 2011 5:44 AM EST up reply actions  

He didn’t lead with his head. His stance is slightly crouched, as is that of many New World fighters. He also reprised a bob&weave response that’s perfectly legit, and Khan didn’t like it because it worked and he couldn’t deal within the rules. But as long as a fighter doesn’t dip below the waist, it’s legal, and Peterson didin’t.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 12, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

whether it was legal or not doesn’t change the fact the referee warned Peterson repeatedly but docked no point. Then consider that none of us can recollect a boxer ever being deducted points for pushing in a championship fight, despite seeing far worse offenders, then it seems biased.

I agree that there were ultimately better options for khan than pushing i.e. using his fists, perhaps his ego got in the way and he wanted to prove he could take a punch, who knows.

Khan is palpably unpopular, he out worked Peterson, threw more punches, put him on the floor, and on all three judges cards had him winning the fight before the point deductions, yet somehow Peterson gets elevated above him in the rankings based on those point deductions. Hell, Bradley never has to fight anyone other than 40 yr old bums to stay #1 ranked fighter in this division. There is clearly something about Khan people don’t like.

by Dirk Thrust on Dec 13, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

There were no headbutts and Peterson never fouled with his head so what’s the problem? The problem is that Khan had never seen pressure like that and he couldn’t handle it so he began to foul by pushing and headlocking. What was amusing to me is how he would put Peterson in a headlock and then look at the ref with a stupid expression on his face as if to say “How did his head get in here?”.

by Craig111 on Dec 13, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

God, thank you for that picture. He did that all night long. I noticed it repeatedly. You’re the first to bring it up, it’s like, “Mom, Mom, he mighta woulda GOT me, somebody do something, he’s WINNING, it’s not fair.”

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 14, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Good read

Though I still believe those points shouldnt have been taken. However khan should have taken the warnings seriously, in the end it’s still khan who broke the rules. Most referees would have called for more breaks, and khan was repeatedly looking to cooper for one. Still though, khan or his corner should have quickly realized that he wasnt going to get those breaks, and adapted.

by ScottCL on Dec 11, 2011 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

very good article, i agree with most everything he has put there

by sparky_mufc on Dec 12, 2011 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

+1

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 12, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Meanwhile

Nobody is crying foul about the horrendous 115-110 card that Khan had in his favor with the 2 points deducted.

by tacklerford on Dec 12, 2011 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

so true, but it didn’t rule, thank god. It’s a scandalous card, though, you’re right.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 12, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Best article I’ve read on the fight…

by mambocowboy on Dec 12, 2011 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

really interesting take from malignaggi.

gist is that since khan is usually taller and so much faster than his opponents (and can’t fight on the inside), his opponents need to get low and inside to win.

so when khan gets a ref like cortez, he has the advantage. when he gets a ref like cooper, his opponent has the advantage…

by jake_ash on Dec 12, 2011 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

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