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Khan v Peterson: Inside Ring Amir Khan Shows Heart, Outside He Shows Immaturity

There are two things we can take away from the action on Saturday night in Washington DC. For starters I don't think anyone can ever question the heart and the willingness to engage on the part of Amir Khan who further proved that he's not only willing to fight in his opponents backyard but he's willing to go all out for the victory in his opponents hometown, which is no feat to be dismissed even if you're a Khan skeptic like myself. He proved a lot of things on that night and I said this loss will do more to help his career long term than the win would have giving the overwhelming and quite honestly unrealistic odds in his favor. Look, Lamont Peterson is no P4P quality fighter I get that, but he's not Zab Judah, Marco Antonio Barrera, or Paul McCloskey. In the case of Barrera and Judah both fighters were well beyond the point of serious competition, Zab pretty much threw in the towel and Barrera was shotsville. As far as Paul McCloskey is concerned, how many guys in the Junior Welterweight division who are considered world level and household names can he beat? So in the buildup to this fight I found the odds sort of unreasonable given Khan's most recent record and the fact that he had one win over a current top junior welterweight still in his prime and that was the win over Maidana in January.

There was an argument to be made as to why Lamont Peterson could win the fight and certainly some of you on this website and others made that argument. Saturday came and went and with that a lot of controversy, shock, and on the part of Amir Khan a lot of whining. And this is where we have a potential turning point in Khan's career. There's going to be a rematch and I believe Khan will win the rematch, but I must say his behavior after the fight this weekend makes you wonder whether or not he's ready mentally to be a super star in one of the most mentally demanding sports on earth. Boxing requires more than just talent and physical ability, it requires composure and a level of understanding that unfortunately a lot of young fighters just don't have. Amir Khan is a product of entitlement and seems to believe, as he did on Saturday before the fight that he's owed the super star paydays and all the big PPV fights that both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather have enjoyed for many years. He focused more on a potential opponent in another weight class more so than on his current opponent in the same division leading up to the fight. A lot of people were warning him about looking too far ahead in the future. Ultimately Khan's hype robbed him of his IBF and WBA titles, not the referee, not the city of Washington DC, and not the judges. You had a kid, and he's still very much a kid, in Khan chasing the super fights and obsessing over the adulation and praise of the boxing world as though he were under the guide of a spirit of affectation.

He needs to go back and forget about the hype, the talk of a bout with Mayweather next year and just focus on correcting those mistakes that cost him his titles. If the road for Khan leads to super stardom then that's what he'll have waiting for him. But it all depends on whether or not he can mature mentally as much as he has physically. He still comes off as a spoiled brat who blames everyone but himself when he can't deliver, and someone who is as ungracious in defeat as he is gracious during the thrill of victory. One last thing, listen if you want to be the polar opposite of Floyd Mayweather like you said you did after commenting on Floyd's controversial win over Victor Ortiz in September, taking a broad swipe at an entire city, an American city mind you because you're pissed and crabby over the outcome of your fight won't make you more increase your fan base on this side of the pond my friend. I'm just telling you one thing we Americans hate is when people from other countries take shots at us. We especially don't like it when that person comes from the sports world. I'm not some ultra patriot who wears American flag t-shirts or anything like that but for him to say "That's why boxing hasn't been in DC for 20 years" you know he should be a bit more careful about how he runs his mouth.

I'm just saying the kid doesn't know how to accept defeat. People say "oh he changed for the better after the knock out against Breidis Prescott" Well maybe he changed as far as his boxing is concerned but maturity wise he's still got some more growing up to do. And credit to Lamont Peterson for acting more like the champion than the actual champion. No one gave him a snow cone's chance in Hades yet he displayed a level of focus and reflection that won a lot of people over regardless of what they thought of the decision. I don't quite have him as a long term world level guy who can win multiples titles throughout his career because ultimately he's just not quite the same talent as the guys ahead of him like Devon Alexander, Timothy Bradley, and even Khan who again like I said will probably win the rematch because he'll be a lot more focused next time around. I think Lamont could beat Maidana because Maidana is one dimensional and has terrible footwork, I think he could beat Erik Morales, but those are probably, um you know could he beat Danny Garcia or even a guy like Ashley Theophane who will probably get a world title shot sometime next year?, who knows. Again I just don't now where to put him even with the win on Saturday, you gotta think Khan will be the heavy favorite in the rematch.

Where do you guys have Lamont Peterson after Saturday? Is he to be taken serious as a long term champion or was this as I suspect a case of a disinterested champion looking past a game contender with nothing to lose?

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As far as Paul McCloskey is concerned, how many guys in the Junior Welterweight division who are considered world level and household names can he beat?

Weren’t you the one complaining that he didn’t offer McCloskey a rematch and insulted him?

he’s just not quite the same talent as the guys ahead of him like Devon Alexander, Timoth Bradley

Alexander is on a 3 fight losing streak…He also clearly has more raw talent than Bradley. Bradley’s just a much smarter fighter.

Marco Antonio Barrera

you are aware that fight was over two years ago right?

he’s owed the super star paydays and all the big PPV fights

It seems to me that Tim Bradley thinks this more than Khan. Khan has been actively fighting several times a year against top competition. Say what you will about Judah, but a lot of people thought he’d be a dangerous opponent and he held the IBF belt. His last three fights have been against top guys in the division.

If you are going to complain about the competition Khan has been facing, you could make the same complaint about literally almost every other elite fighter. Pacquiao’s last 3 opponents were far worse (in hindsight JMM was good). Mayweather’s last 3 have been pretty good, but he fights so rarely it’s easy to forget that.

by Sammlung on Dec 12, 2011 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

I know the Barrera fight was over two years ago. I was just trying to make the point that Khan tries to rush his super stardom which isn’t unique to him alone, I know many fighters do the same thing but perhaps his lack of focus on this particular opponent had something to do with him losing.

by Scott Harrison on Dec 12, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Inside of the ring, Khan also shows plenty of immaturity. Before the Peterson fight, I thought he was mediocre to bad off the back foot; after that fight, I see that I was wrong, and he is awful off the back foot. We use the turn “run” too much in boxing; Khan, however, truly ran himself out of a few rounds where he may have landed more and better shots. Back to the gym with you, lad, and easy on the grappling when you return.

by El Destruyo on Dec 12, 2011 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

We use the turn "run" too much in boxing; Khan, however, truly ran himself out of a few rounds where he may have landed more and better shots.

i don’t why that statement made me laugh literally.. lol

"Effort without Efficiency is nonsense.." -rk mag

by richmondk on Dec 13, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t get it, so if Khan was considered a top p4p fighter, and Peterson beats him, it doesn’t make him a top p4p fighter? I would disagree. I’d put Peterson at least on the top 20 at the moment b/c of his victory and having watched the Victor Cayo fight I can say it wasn’t a fluke. I disagree with the fact that Khan will win a rematch, and I disagree with the label pple put on Peterson’s fighting as “brawling.” Brawling to me = taking one to give one. Peterson got him a lot, yes, but he also avoided a lot. His plan B was to get inside and rip the body and avoid as much damage as possible. Khan is weak in the inside and will always be, and Khan has poor defense and runs (those things won’t change in the rematch) and has a Ring IQ of C. Peterson chose to beat Khan by attacking his weaknesses, not just got by going toe to toe with him. To me that spells effective boxing and will win him the fight 4 times out of 5 over Khan. On the other hand, Khan’s match agst Peterson wasn’t a fluke. He’s now hard wired to run, stay on the ropes and ask for more behind a weak shell, and to complain to the refs. With Ortiz, you can’t teach heart. With Khan, you can’t teach smarts. Ya either have it or ya don’t. Peterson may not be the most talented or athletic guy in the world, but I’m damn sure he’s one of the best/most skillful fighters in the world now and that his draw with Ortiz and his victory over Khan were not flukes. Peterson has also been improving in every fight, and my feeling is that it’s the nerves that has prevented his fully blooming in the ring and that he leaves 40% of his skills in the gym and that’s why we’re only starting to warm up to him b/c we’ve seen what he has and/or can do. Check it, I love this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o_xtGhbCSo

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Dec 12, 2011 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

I think people are coming down pretty hard on Khan. Those two deductions were critical as far as the final scores went and were handled in a manner that was not clear to the fighters or even the audience.
Me and a lot of people thought Khan did enough in the home stretch to win.
Given the doubts, whats wrong if he vents a little?

When Malignaggi was handed a bad scorecard against Diaz, people cheered him on to a rematch. Give Khan some benefit of the doubt.

by cyke on Dec 12, 2011 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

It’s more than venting, venting is common and I agree there’s nothing wrong with that. But he went as far as slamming the entire city of Washington DC because he lost a trap fight? It’s not the city’s fault he didn’t take Lamont Peterson serious.

by Scott Harrison on Dec 12, 2011 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

There have a been a ton of fights where we wonder if the fix was in, Khan just vocalized those feelings. It was a close fight and he spoke his mind.

So what if he insulted the town? Given what happens there, DC isn’t exactly a shining example of ethics and honesty.

by cyke on Dec 12, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

did bhop insult montreal? did clottey insult nyc? did miranda insult germany (7 point deductions)?

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Dec 13, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Just because those guys didn’t speak up, doesn’t mean that Khan should stay silent too.

by cyke on Dec 13, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Particularly with D.C. being Khan’s idea, it’s silly. I’m not saying you shouldn’t speak against egregiously wrong decisions, but care is important, because when you shit on the city, the public, and the referee, you are shitting on your sport and your very livelihood. So be absolutely sure.

by El Destruyo on Dec 13, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Not for nothin, but I’m guessing boxing recovers from the vicious words spat by Amir Khan.

Paulie Malignaggi said a lot worse after the first Juan Diaz fight. Everyone came out OK, except Juan Diaz.

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by Scott Christ on Dec 13, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Khan is more De Niro in Cop Land

“I offered you a chance, when we coulda done something, I offered you a chance to be a real commission, AND YOU BLEWWWWWIIIIIIIIT. You blew it.”

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by Scott Christ on Dec 13, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If anything, some emotion or trash talk is good for the attention it brings to the sport.

by cyke on Dec 13, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Riiiight. So how about we have him go and insult YOUR hometown, your family, your mom and so forth....

But hey that’s okay, right?

After all, “some emotion or trash talk is good for the attention..blahblahblah”.

by BrockRocks on Dec 18, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Without quotes

The sport won’t have characters

Without characters, there is no faces

Without faces, how can fans recognise and relate to the fighters

And enough with the patronising

by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

if it was the set-up in the DC venue that khan talked shit about,

then i would support him all way through.. :)

"Effort without Efficiency is nonsense.." -rk mag

by richmondk on Dec 13, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Malignaggi clearly beat up Diaz. Khan ran and shoe shined for several rounds, and blew up. Big difference. Just like Clottey “losing” to Cotto. Cotto didn’t get deducted or warned for tackling him, or for the low blows in the late rounds to run out the clock, or the low blow/rabbit punch. Bernard said in the press conference that when you go to another fighter’s hometown you have to really win convincingly or knock the guy out. Yes, I don’t agree with the two point deductions, but you add on another bad call from the ref: the push/knockdown, then you have a majority draw. That doesn’t equal a win for Khan, so there’s on robbery. A hometown decision yes, a robbery? Nope. Pple are probably more upset b/c it’s khan more than the decision or officiating probably. All good, Peterson buma ye!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Dec 13, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

there’s “no” robbery. A hometown decision…

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Dec 13, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

no man..the set-up i meant was actually referring to “a convention center with a flat floor, no stadium seating, no music to pump up the crowd, nothing to set the mood” w/c you previously posted in my fanpost…

"Effort without Efficiency is nonsense.." -rk mag

by richmondk on Dec 14, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah that sucked big time, esp after having gone to msg for the cotto fight. despite being relatively close the ring, i had to look at the big screen, that sucked turd!!!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Dec 14, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Clarify

Let me clarify, what I’m asking is this: Is Lamont Peterson P4P worthy long term?

by Scott Harrison on Dec 12, 2011 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

In my opinion, the answer is yes. I think he could handle alexander, maidana, and Ortiz. I think berto’s handspeed might give him trouble and power, but he could probably work the inside like he did agst khan. I still think Bradley is a better fighter and that bradley could have beaten khan in more impressive fashion b/c he can box, he can pressure, he can in fight, and he is slick. Check the last rounds of bradley pete, bradley slipped and blocked almost everything and got his in, and used his feet EFFECTIVELY to move around lamont and land shots:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl_y2EIlXT8&feature=related

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Dec 12, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably, considering all the legit contenders @ 140 wont be there for much longer (Bradley, Khan, etc)

by Shitali Klitschko on Dec 13, 2011 12:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I know its controversial to criticize Amir Khan because he’s “can’t miss” and the next pound for pound superstar but even during the fight with Marcos Maidana I noticed a lot of mistakes that he got away with because Maidana wasn’t as technical as Lamont Peterson. But if you put him in there with the right opponent Khan can be solved pretty easily. If he can’t dispatch of a guy who was suppose to be a lesser opponent then how on earth is he to hang with Floyd Mayweather and a guy who I’m a huge fan of Kell Brook?

by Scott Harrison on Dec 13, 2011 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

I know its controversial to criticize Amir Khan because he’s "can’t miss" and the next pound for pound superstar.

You do know that the majority of boxing fans do not like Amir Khan and he gets shat on relentlessly right?

even during the fight with Marcos Maidana I noticed a lot of mistakes that he got away with because Maidana wasn’t as technical as Lamont Peterson.

Was that before or after Khan came within inches of a TKO loss? You are far from alone in all your opinions of Amir Khan.

by Sammlung on Dec 13, 2011 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

I disagree, check the pre-fight assessment and opinions of the BLH users. 90% were pro-Khan, even the ones who didn’t particularly liked him…

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Dec 13, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you say it’s controversial at all to criticize Khan? That’s what I was responding to. Hell he still gets the glass jaw critique all the time. Most BLH users thought he would win, but most have plenty of criticism of him (much of it deserved btw).

by Sammlung on Dec 14, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Khan’s literally one of the most hated fighters in boxing today. I don’t think that is an exaggeration.

by Sammlung on Dec 14, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I dun think he’s hated, criticized yes, hated? I dun think so. HBO has quite the man crush on him :).

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Dec 14, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Khan's guard is far too slack

He really needs to tighten it up or drop his hands a tad. He can’t see the wide hooks coming so has no chance of slipping them and countering.

by Sweet science on Dec 14, 2011 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

That's arrogance baby...

http://thesweetscience.com/news/articles-frontpage/13704-khan-says-sparring-partners-probly-tougher-than-petersonfolstad

And the rest is history!!!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Dec 14, 2011 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

That's stupidity....."baby".

What “excuses” will he give WHEN Peterson beats him a 2nd time to retain the belts?

The sun was in my eyes?

I wasn’t ready?

I had food poisoning?

yeah….

by BrockRocks on Dec 18, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not crazy about Khan myself, in or out of the ring, but you’re overexcited about it imo. No disrespect, it’ll all come out in the wash, calm down.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Dec 20, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Khan says he’ll beat anyone they put in front of him…..except Kell Brook. Yeah, when Amir gets back on that arrogant railroad to 147 Kell will probably have a title by that time. And by that time we should all be quiet and listen for what Khan will say when Kell challenges him yet again. Let’s see what excuses Khan comes up with.

He can’t say: “Kell has no name” because Lamont Peterson had no real name value either.

by Scott Harrison on Dec 14, 2011 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

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