Ward vs Froch Results: Andre Ward Dominates in Super Six Final
by Scott Christ on Dec 17, 2011 10:47 PM EST
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Andre Ward was dominant tonight against Carl Froch in Atlantic City, winning a decision on scores of 118-110, 115-113, and 115-113 to claim the Super Six World Boxing Classic trophy, retain his WBA title, pick up the WBC title, and gain recognition as the Ring Magazine world super middleweight champion.
Ward (25-0, 13 KO) completely bossed the fight from start to finish, and the two 115-113 scores were surprisingly close, with even Froch (28-2, 20 KO) seemingly surprised by how many rounds judges Craig Metcalfe and John Steward gave him. It was actually the fight's English judge, John Keane, who scored it widest. Bad Left Hook scored it 119-109 for Ward, with a couple of rounds that could definitely have gone the other way.
It was Ward's speed that gave Froch problems, as well as a slippery defensive game plan that saw him make Froch miss, and hesitate to pull the trigger. There was a point in the middle rounds where Froch chased Ward from one side of the ring to the other, throwing shots, landing nothing. That moment was indicative of much of the fight: Froch just couldn't find Andre Ward, and simply put, wasn't good enough to beat him tonight.
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Ward had his most offensive success with a left hook, but set everything up early with a terrific jab that put him on the path. In the first round, Froch's nose reddened up due to that jab, and eventually, Ward started landing that left hook and a good lead right hand very effectively.
Ward countered well, bullied well, stalked well, and was able to lead the action when he wanted to, and use Froch's aggressiveness against him when he wanted to, as well. In other words, the 27-year-old from Oakland was simply better-prepared and a superior fighter, and there's no argument about it.
But for the 34-year-old Froch, this was no damning defeat. After the bout, he said he had a bad night, but was incredibly honest in his overall assessment, that Ward was just too slick and too good. After the two fighters spoke with Jim Gray, they exchanged words with one another.
"No hard feelings," said Ward.
"None at all," Froch replied. "You won the fight. Simple as that."
It was a class show of respect from two fighters who talked before the fight, did their business in the ring, and then were able to win and lose with grace.
As for what's next, Ward said he's going to take a rest -- he even said "I deserve a long rest" -- while Froch said he'd love to fight Ward again after he works on correcting his mistakes, but also said there were several other fights that he feels would be good for him. No mention was made of Lucian Bute, though Ward vs Bute is now unquestionably the fight at 168 pounds.
After two sometimes torturous, sometimes absurd, and sometimes admirable years of the Super Six World Boxing Classic, the tournament has come to a close. And standing tall at the end is the man who opened eyes in "Stage One" against Mikkel Kessler back in November 2009. Andre Ward has proven himself as the class of the super middleweight division.
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I kinda still want to see Dirrell v. Ward.
"He's still a very strong fighter, but I am way better than he is" - Miguel Cotto
well once Andre Ward get that paper right and so long as the Neurogical Issues™ don’t crop up a couple weeks before a date with no venue, perhaps we’ll see that thriller.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Dec 17, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
As fun as a root canal
Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses. --The Knockout Mechanism.
Ya'll musta forgot...
I called Ward back da’ day!
http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/4/4/822825/andre-ward-sog
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
I stand by my comment on that post.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Dec 17, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
I vouched for Ward, I’ve vouched for Peterson… now watch Timothy Bradley is gonna shock the World! He gonna beat up Pacquiao if he gets a chance, and beat Amir Khan, and be top 5 p4p fighter in the next year! Pc!
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
BTW, I'm going to bookmark this post, cylee
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Yo dude, Bradley has fast feet, fast jab, good head movement.. he doesn’t have pillows… at least rubber dodgeballs! Manny can be outboxed, and Bradley’s handspeed can ALMOST match Manny’s. Bring with that timing, and better Ring IQ than Manny… and having fought more diverse opponents recently…. then yes, he can out box and outslug manny… not to mention, his power is underrated…
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
I need to make a Bradley post before he blows up. Then I can “Must Forgot” him as well when he’s top 2 p4p fighter in the world…
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
Break out your Crow recipes. I’m comin’ to dinner. Snd you’re cookin’ and eating
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Timothy Bradley fo’ sure is gonna blow up like no one’s business. Crow for everyone! Who’s gonna beat him? I can’t think of anyone besides Floyd between 140-154 that has his Ring IQ.. pc!
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
It's a shame Howard Cosell isnt alive to call it.
Down goes Bradley!! Down goes Bradley!!
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
I think Ward will go all the way up and get a cruiserweight title someday…
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
He’s a strong man. Shame he’s not 215/225 lbs
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Yeah, he’s make one helluva heavyweight. I’d say right now he’s got the speed of a decent Welterweight. Think what would happen if he were a Heavyweight? He’d move like a decent Super Middleweight…. a scary combination!
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
The first thing I noticed was that Ward was ‘smart’ strong and Carl was just ‘strong’. Like Evander and Bernard before him, Ward muscles up to muscle in, gauges his opponent and then begins to impose his will.
Carl had no answers against a smarter, craftier and stronger fighter.
Ward ran a clinic on him tonight.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Honestly, I think people overvalued Froch’s skills after the Abraham fight. I mean, he was losing to Jermain Taylor before a Hail Mary. And I still think Dirrell beat him.
"He's still a very strong fighter, but I am way better than he is" - Miguel Cotto
I agree
I think Dirrell made him look like a blind Samson and Carl’s later dissembly of AA was a simple following of a blueprint laid out by none other than Andre Direll himself.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
I disagree… Froch took over the fight from Round 6 on and Taylor starting gassing and getting hit flush. Froch was actually outboxing Taylor too as well as outslugging him after Round 6…
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
That’s more on Taylor than on Froch.
"He's still a very strong fighter, but I am way better than he is" - Miguel Cotto
Goes both ways, Froch is better than pple think (anyone watch the Pascal fight? He BEAT up and outboxed a faster, quicker fighter) and has boxing skills. Ward is just on another level.
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
I just disagree. I see nothing special in him. I can give him props for having a sturdy chin and being persistent, but apart from that, he’s really nothing special. He’s been outboxed several occasions. Ward is indeed special, but he’s not the first one to outbox him.
"He's still a very strong fighter, but I am way better than he is" - Miguel Cotto
He’s the first one to beat Froch, and that says a lot. Well, I guess you can count Kessler… I honestly think Froch beat Kessler bought lost on home decision…or Ward was the first one to beat him convincingly. seriously, did anyone watch the Pascal fight? That was a thing of beauty. Froch is not “overrated” or exposed b/c he lost to a great fighter. That is just it, he lost to a great fighter, no shame in that…
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
That was three years ago
And it says something about Pascal as well.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
at the end of the day
It was AA. Audley Harrison could outwork him
by Sweet science on Dec 17, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
just occured to me that Englands got no world champions left. we really need Bruno to come back and show the klitschkos whats what
by whypunchrabbits? on Dec 17, 2011 11:15 PM EST reply actions
Clev and Burns, to be pedantic
by Shitali Klitschko on Dec 18, 2011 1:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
theyre welsh and scottish respectively, not english
by whypunchrabbits? on Dec 18, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Great to see the humility of Froch
If only that wa seen last week. Just a meer sense of humility would have been nice…..
To be honest. I really enjoyed the fight. Because Ward was just a different class. We know Froch is limited. But the way Ward took his weapons away was Mayweather esque. Always in control. Fantastic Ring IQ. Who needs a dig when you can box like that.
I think tonight is when we realised just how special Andre is. Good for him
I agree completely…..but wish that he would have closed the show. He had Froch hurt at the end of round six….and he did not show killer instinct. I know that his job is to win and I give him all the credit in the world.
But I like KOs
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
There was no way he was stopping Froch
Froch just far too tough. That is the one area that Froch will trump Ward in. His Chin. Unless you abide by what they said in the face off
“The best chin is the one that can’t be found”
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
and he did not show killer instinct.
He didn’t show killer instinct in that, he didn’t close the show with a stoppage. But he showed…. a relentless side to him, because he never gave Froch a sniff off the W.
I think his interveiw said it all too. Everybody knows Froch is slow, but he was suprised by his slowness. That shows he prepared properly. Didn’t underestimate Carl at all. Relentless
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
He also showed his ability to adapt and kept on switching it up
Inside or out…. Doesn’t matter to him. Not tonight. Just far too good for Froch.
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Mayweather esque!!!!!!!!!
WTF. That Cambridge?
"Boxing is the red light district of sports."
—Jimmy Cannon
The way he took Carl's weapons away
Froch looked a little trigger shy. And when he did throw Ward punished him.
That reminds me of Mayweather. Im not saying Ward is a Floyd replica in styles. Obviously their not. But there is similarites in the way they prepare and the way they steal the heart and dreams of their opponents
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Well put.
Expect him to win no matter but dont expect fireworks. He’s a highly skilled, highly professional blue collar worker in the ring. Just getting the job done no matter what tool is necessary
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Hopefully he doesn't become under apreciated as a fighter because of it
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I think the two judges who scored the fight close need to be remembered
No way Froch win 4-5 rounds
Ironically the British judge (Keane I think) was bang on the money.
115-113 was a disgrace but the again disgraces are tyoical in NJ
"Boxing is the red light district of sports."
—Jimmy Cannon
Neither is the fact that their shit scorecards mattered
The right man won
Still sucked though
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Well, does this win give Wrad Fighter of the Year?
"Boxing is the red light district of sports."
—Jimmy Cannon
Where does each fighter go
The obvious match up for Ward is Bute. But if that doesn’t happen, does he wait for Dirrel? Could be a potential banana skin
Froch still has options. I would love a Kessler rematch in England. I would definatley try and go because you are sure as shit gunna get a good fight.
Could very well happen
It would be another away fight for him though. Prehaps he wants to come home for a change
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 6:52 AM EST up reply actions
Froch is an attraction for me unles and/or until he gets stopped in a fight. I thnk he’s a pretty shitty boxer but he’s all cock and balls.
IMO he can fight Kessler, Dirrell and Ward again….or Bute anytime. I’d watch …not expe ting him tpo improve but to try putting his fists where his mouth is
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
I don’t know about Ward or Dirrell (man that was a horrible fight to watch, IMO) but Bute and Kessler? Absolutely.
by VirtualBalboa on Dec 18, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
I know this sounds odd
But the fighter with the best chance to beat Ward is probably …..don’t laugh….Andre Dirrell
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Nah. won’t be able to avoid Ward long enough and Ward’s too physical. Dirrell flat ducked him once. He’s never going near him. He’ll talk about it, sure.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Dec 18, 2011 5:19 AM EST up reply actions
So that poses the problem
How do you beat Ward?
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 6:53 AM EST up reply actions
Hit him hard, consistently.
The guy with the best chance to beat him is Bute because his body shots can be one-shot deals when he rockets a good one in. But I doubt Bute will fight him. It’s going to have to be someone whose power Ward can be made to fear, frankly. Nobody in the division is going to outbox him. He does everything well.
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by Scott Christ on Dec 18, 2011 7:12 AM EST up reply actions
The body shot that put Andrade away was stunning
But will he have the room to get full leverage on the shots. I think Ward smothers him. Stays on the inside a lot more than what he did last night
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
Me too. I strongly favor Ward — I just think he’s got more grit, and Bute is weak inside.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Dec 18, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Well there you go
If Bute is that bad on the inside, Ward will set up camp inside.
by Sweet science on Dec 18, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
I seriously hope...
…that Ward stays at SMW. I mean we rarely have definitive champions in a given division. Ward unified the WBA and WBC titles and defeated 3 tough and top notch SMWs to become the Ring magazine and thus the universally recognized number 1 SMW in the world. The last thing we need is to have him vacate that title to move up to LHW. Bute is still a potential challenger, Dirrell, who dropped out of tourney and hell, during the broadcast it was even said that B-Hop could potentially drop to 168. Even though this tourney took 2 years to complete, it gave us the answer of who is the best SMW in the world, other weight divisions need to do the same.
by Cestus84 on Dec 18, 2011 4:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I am glad we can move on now. I was excited about the super six when it first started, but it produced the least exciting fights that Sho has had over the past two years.
But I still don’t have that"wow" feeling after Ward fights. You know, the one you had after a Hagler or Hearns fight or after a SRL or Duran rumble. Or Barkley, Benn, Eubank, or Watson. Or even Minter. Those guys left everything in the ring.
Ward may be too smooth for his own good. And in a strange and unfair way, that equals being fan-unfriendly. Hell, I’d rather watch Rios rumble every day of the week than watch Ward disect an opponent even knowing that what he is doing is highly skillful. Nope. I want more sizzle here.
"Boxing is the red light district of sports."
—Jimmy Cannon
Yeah I’m pretty much the same. If I were to nit-pick last night’s performance — and believe me, I find it impressive that he so thoroughly outclassed Carl Froch — I’d note that he let off the gas greatly in the last four rounds or so. That’s the sort of thing that keeps me from being wowed by him. It’s that extra little it factor that keeps me at distance.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Dec 18, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
He should have closed the show. Smacked Froch to the body and check left hooked him to the head. He hjad him beat and he let it go the distance….not that Froch isnt tough….but Ward took the smart but safe route the last four or five rounds.
If he wants to win the love of fight fans he has to do what manny steward implores Vlad to do (but rarely does); turn it up and KO his opponents.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
i’ve found a lot of reasons to bash boxing in recent years.
but this tournament did a lot for boxing, got me interested, more so than i have been in years.
guys dropping out, some semi-upset(s), jockeying for dates etc…..by and large it was good for boxing, got and kept me interested, and actually settled some questions about who is what and the like.
gotta say, hats off to the people who worked hard and put/kept this together for the past couple years.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Dec 18, 2011 2:13 PM EST reply actions
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