Most violent boxer
by HeartbreakShot on Dec 24, 2011 5:31 PM EST
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Recently i watched the McClellan vs Benn fight documentary on ITV, it was unsurprisingly very interesting, however one point which stood out was the statement made by McClellan's ex coach. The guy basically stated that McClellan was the most violent boxer to put on the gloves. It got me thinking, who is the most violent boxer every to fight?
I think all boxers have some degree of violence, ofcourse to take part in such a sport you need it. However some clearly are more violent, i'll nominate Tyson, not as the most violent EVER, but as the most violent i know of.
Who would you guys say is the most violent boxer ever?
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Violent boxer
Or violant as an individual
Either way, you can’t go far wrong with Tyson. Im sure others will know of others who had a proper mean streak in years gone by.
McCellan’s foe on that night wasn’t an angel. He threw with mean intentions
Great Documentary that too
Yeah Benn..
Wasn’t a goodboy either, was nicknamed the Son of the Devil or something was he not? Coincedentally both him and Eubank put people in wheelchairs, very odd
by HeartbreakShot on Dec 24, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Both ended their fights with a uppercut
both men were losing on the scorecards before the ending.
Both guy was each others biggest rivals.
Crazy!
by Mohammedini Hussein on Dec 27, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Edwin Valero
in or out of the ring.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Jack Dempsey
second runner up.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
I agree
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
with BoxAnne
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
Carlos Monzon...
Beat his multiple wives constantly and threw one of them out a balcony.
He beat his wives to bloody pulps
by Mohammedini Hussein on Dec 27, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Micheal Moorer liked to hit a copper or two in his younger days. Paul Sykes, a heavyweight who challenged for the British title, stands out though. Known as the toughest guyy in the British prison system throughout the 1970’s, Sykes spent over 20 years in prison for assaulting police and prison officers.
Ron Lyle was a pretty violent guy.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
Roberto Duran?
i’m surprised duran hasn’t been mentioned yet. maybe not the most violent boxer of all time, since it’s a pretty hard role to define. but he’s definitely up there. duran’s legacy of violence probably takes a hit with the way he acted in the second leonard fight, and his inevitable decline with age. but when talking about the man, you can rattle off event after event of pure savagery. his fight with buchanan for the lightweight title in ‘72, one of the most infamous low blows of all time—buchanan said he thinks of duran every time he “takes a piss.” his brutal knockout of dejesus in their second fight. his quote after battering ray lampkin. not to mention his unspeakably harsh upbringing, and the fact that fighting was not only beneficial to his career, but most likely a method of survival on the harsh panamanian streets. maybe duran isn’t the most “violent” boxer of all time, as you have guys like tyson, lyle, and liston. but he’s up there for sure.
"The next time, I send him to the morgue."
by HandsOfStone98 on Dec 26, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions
Aaron Pryor?
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
Yes.
And he’s paying a heavy price now. My all time favorite fighter and when I speak with him, I can never tell if he can see the person in front of him or not.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 29, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Jeez, Pops
Sorry to hear that.
Hawk time was thrilling but my assumption was that Aaron fought and lived like a madman.
What say you?
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Correct on both counts.
Crazy and stubborn in the ring and out. Cocaine roughed him up pretty good. From what I hear, he always had an entourage that bled him dry. Now, his eyes are totally fucked and he walks around local shows with a bag full of his own merchandise trying to hustle a few dollars. He’s also an assistant minister at a local church. Though, from what I hear, he doesn’t get to do much preaching. His speech is slow, but then again, he was never going to challenge Morgan Freeman for voice-over work. But you wanna talk fucked-up, Tony Tubbs acts like he got kicked in the head by a mule.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
Roy "Tiger" Williams was very violent in the Philly Gyms. He was a legend.
He once scared the shit out of Ali because he thought Ali was short changing him. A very scary looking guy and avery scary fighters with great skills. His fight with Sahvers is a classic.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
But I’ll go with Valero sho screamed out with each punch he threw. He just kept coming like an appartion. He was inhuman in the ring and ultra violnet outside. A terrible tragedy all the way around.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
who screamed
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
Ans was a bad driver as well
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
Violent boxers who were bad drivers
Carlos Monzon probably tops that list
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Also Obah and Sal Sanchez
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
and
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
Tony Ayala Jr was lived and fought like a man who had a bad, hard life; violently.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Great pick
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
He (Ayala) is a sick puppy--
was one
from his youth on.
by Don From Prov on Dec 29, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Marcos Maidana… maybe not most in history, but I wouldn’t be facing him across the ring unless my family was held hostage…
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
The most violent boxers I have seen would have to be
Henry Armstrong, Joe Frazier and Jack Dempsey.
Never stopped coming. Dempsey hit like death, Joe took you apart with a smile and Armstrong was just always in yer face.
Young Duran certainly deserves mention.
All great picks
Loved Joe’s smile.
Dwight Baxton/Muhammed Qawi brought bad intentions as well.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Umm....
I think most of them are pretty violent
what about ike ibeaubuchi, certainly one of the craziest boxers
"I'm not God, but I am something similar."
—Roberto Duran
Good one. Forgot him.
O’Neil Bell should be mentioned as well. Last seen chasing a sparring partner throught the woods with an axe.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
S'matter?
Couldn’t find a chippin’ machine?
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Shit, I should have read this before I posted below.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 29, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Any guy who rapes and beats prostitutes is not only ultra violent, he is stark raving mad. He nees to stay where he is.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
Not many tortured someone as
Ali
did Patterson. Might not = violent in the extreme but is telling of a certain cruelty—
One that we more often saw in his words.
Being Cruel is not the same as Violence
but I like the lateral thinking
by Sweet science on Dec 29, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
He was one of the hardest punchers of all time, so maybe. But other than that, he wasn’t especially savage, became a preacher after boxing.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Yes. He lives nearby (or used to, not seen him recently) and the exact opposite to violent now. I once talked with him and he knew nothing of Barrera or Morales’ fights!
That’s intriguing. Foreman’s a rev., but he still takes a big interest in the fights. Seems like most ex-boxers do, no matter what they’re doing now.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Yep, I just don’t think he’s as interested in the sport now. He’s a very polite man, has a reputation for being extremely nice to people when working club doorways.
I shook big George’s hand once, he had a real gentle grip. Hiding what we all know those same hands are truly capable of. Another true gent too. :)
I shook big George’s hand once, he had a real gentle grip.
Should have tried crushing his hand phil :)
by Sweet science on Dec 30, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
No. Many of his KOs were clean. Quarry was more violent because he broke his man down and then closed matters.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
Re Shavers
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
See above. Maybe the best (but wors) choice of all
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
worse
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)
Scott Harrison – p4p !
Disarm you with a smile ....
by Sir Jack Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions
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