Helenius vs Chisora & Povetkin vs Boswell: Live Results and Round-By-Round Coverage
by Scott Christ on Dec 3, 2011 1:30 PM EST
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Today at 2 p.m. EST on BoxNation in the United Kingdom, ARD in Germany, and Epix in the United States (3:30 p.m. EST), a heavyweight double-header featuring a world title fight and one of the sport's fastest-rising stars will take place at Hartwall Arena in Helsinki.
[ Related: Helenius vs Chisora / Povetkin vs Boswell Previews ]
The world title fight is actually the co-feature here, as WBA titlist Alexander Povetkin (22-0, 15 KO) faces 42-year-old American Cedric Boswell (35-1, 26 KO). Povetkin, 32, has not progressed as most had hoped he would when he went pro after winning gold at the 2004 Olympics, but he has become one of the leading non-Klitschko heavyweights in the world. For Boswell, it's the chance he's been hoping for for years now, and it's here. It's do or die time for him at the top level of the sport.
In the main event, the vacant European heavyweight title will be decided between Finland's own Robert Helenius (16-0, 11 KO) and Britain's Dereck Chisora (15-1, 9 KO). Chisora is trying to recover still from a July loss to Tyson Fury, and a win over Helenius would put him right back in the world title conversation. Helenius is coming in off of knockouts of former titleholders Samuel Peter and Sergei Liakhovich.
Bad Left Hook will have round-by-round coverage of both fights this afternoon, so join us!
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This will be exciting. I hope I can get these fights. So far, I have adverts with a very hot Asian woman extolling the virtues of Mormonism, and a desperately sad profile of Cotto.
Details my friend… what are you talking about.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
It is 7.06pm and Steve Bunce is talking about training with penguins and hardened breast plates. Should be interesting as always.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
Old women’s boxers were strippers, is the first thing I caught.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Who do you think is in a more awkward position when a female boxer walks into the ring, the ring girl in her bikini or the female boxer when they meet eyes?
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You know, if you asked me to tell you which one’s the Norwegian, and which one is the Hawaiian, I’d have guessed wrong.
So do we know if the two heavyweight fights are after this, or is there another fight before those?
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Neither of them has any pop (which is apparent from how they throw and their records). The quality of women’s boxing has improved dramatically, though (although here it’s clear Braekhus is in a different class than Kupihea).
Actually, maybe this won’t be so good. The lefty Hawaiian fighter (sorry, I don’t know her name) isn’t using any lateral movement, or her right.
I don't know, and I think it's bogus
I’m sure it’s some lingering paternalism.
The irony is that, to the extent you can make generalizations of physical attributes on basis of sex, women tend to rank superior to men on scales of endurance.
http://www.mydr.com.au/sports-fitness/women-beat-men-on-muscle-endurance , but I originally came across this in Martha Nussbaum’s delightfully savage review of Harvey Mansfield’s “Manliness” (pointing out that even Mansfield concedes women’s advantage).
True
I mean, I can keep throwing links at you if you want: (see here, http://www.springerlink.com/content/wl47hw3m551x8034/ ), but the point is that it doesn’t seem to be a particularly controversial point even amongst academics (like Mansfield) who are otherwise committed to the idea that men are physically superior specimens to women.
I know women are on their way to taking a lot of swimming records, Phelps didn’t help their cause last Olympics, but it’s becoming more clear that women endurance wise are at the very least much closer endurance wise.
Or at least their peaks are comparable, I’m not sure how women in general fare against men in general though.
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I’m assuming Braekhus is the brunette, as they are giving Braekhus all the rounds, which blue pants should not be getting?
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
The one who isn’t white is winning.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Nah, it’s just one-sided. I save slaughter for something a lot nastier than this.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
no worse than last night. better, marginally.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
The second coming. You’re in deep sh**t. Scott can’t cover everything.
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Please tell me; I don’t want to file a formal protest with whatever agency actually pay attention to this motley crew.
One peculiarly high action fight which managed to be boring anyway—Avalos vs Jhonatham [sic] Romero—and 1 showcase one sider, Anthony Dirrell vs. Renan St. Juste, who dislocated his shoulder while attempting a tackle, ending the fight.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Fight stopped finally. Challenger gave it her best, but not even close to on the same level.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
So did the title holder win, or did the challenger win?
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Every drug runner on the Mexican border, according to Bunce. looks like Margarito. I wonder what point he’s trying to make?
One more fight before the main events.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Look at him Duke McKenzie, is he really going to have a really high work rate?
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
The Argentine guy looks like the Cuban detective from Dexter.
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it must be disorienting fighting a guy with such a flappy chest.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 3:09 PM EST reply actions
Karl Place v Steve Williams
just starting on Sky Sports now.
British Light Welterweight title eliminator.
Place is a decent prospect at 15-0. Williams is 11-1 with his lone loss coming by stoppage in 10 to the then British champ Lenny Daws..
got that on
with Chisora feed on the laptop
Interesting to see how Aaron performs against someone who he should dispatch with minimal problems
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
So which idiot called him a good prospect? ;)
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
That looked like an awful stoppage
Way too early
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I thought alot was being blocked on the gloves
but I did only catch the last 10 seconds on slow mo replay
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Hey
Just kidding Matt. No offence meant :)
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
This is mind-blowingly dull stuff. I’ve genuinely never seen a fight quite like this.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Dec 3, 2011 3:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Genuinely the only thing of any note on scree, to be fair. This is really crazily bad. I mean, dull fights happen all the time, but how often do you see fights this dull between a scrub and supposed prospect. Rosberg is circling the ring for just no reason whatsoever. It’s bafflingly bad.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Dec 3, 2011 3:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gosh, you don’t know boxing. If you really loved boxing you would understand the chess match going on here.
Each man is a tiger getting ready to pounce!!
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I’d really rather watch two people play chess than this.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Dec 3, 2011 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wlad’s gonna fight from a hospital bed, just to make it more interesting.
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The tall guy just bonked the short guy on top of the head.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 3:26 PM EST reply actions
Hi.
Take it from us you’re better off coming back in 15 minutes.
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Fine, he’s only invited if he’s drinking too then.
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This reminds me of that Mexican four-rounder we saw where the guy making his debut was so wild with his punches, the crowd started shouting “OLE!” every time he missed one by two feet.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 3:30 PM EST reply actions
Anyone else think that this fight was designed to be awful so that the next two fights look amazing?
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
When is the Finish Finisher bout? The Finland Phenom….The Hellion from Helsinki…well anyway when is the Helenius – Chisora fight starting up?
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
I have SMELLED it but never EATEN it…and I’ve eaten grilled grasshopper in China…
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Dec 3, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Never had buffalo. I had black bear pie once, and it was very good.
If anyone ever offers you lutefisk, find a quick way to die first.
by DrRck on Dec 3, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not even a close call
Gefilte fish is delicious. Lutefisk is deadly, in the sense that it’s actually cooked in lye.
schraubd summed it up. Lutefisk is some horrible, last-ditch invention by Scandinavians who were desperate to avoid starvation at any cost. And by any cost, I mean after all the rats, bugs, dogs, and everything else had already been consumed. Cannibalism was next, so I guess that whoever first thought “hey, let’s soak fish in something corrosive and poisonous, and then eat the shit” is to be commended.
This is how Scandinavians (like me) came to rule the world.
Prince Arron (21-3) vs. Brian "The Lion" Rose (17-1) up next on Sky
British light-middleweight title fight.
Do either of them have any chance to make a mark on the world stage?
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Arron could get at least to Euro title level, imo.
He has 3 losses (the last one being to John Duddy – TKO2, three years ago) but his height (6’ 3") and range could pose problems for most fighters around British – Euro level ,imo.
Steve Bunce goes to the worst goddamn boxing sites.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I don’t like specifically bashing sites. or mentioning some of them at all.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
There used to be a place near me called The Pink Piranha. Rats used to run out of the door when you opened it.
Lamb donar
Large!!
Bit of chilli & garlic sauce, with sald acream on top.
Beautiful
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Cedric Boswell coming out to “A Change Is Gonna Come.” Rad.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I’m just hoping for a good fight, but I have to admit if Boswell finally won a title at 42.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 3:49 PM EST reply actions
That’s why this fight should be good, Boswell knows this is his last chance.
The bad news for us is that if he wins here, Wlad will probably set up a fight with him in 2012. Because he’s Wlad, and he does whatever he wants.
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If he wins, I’d rather see Boswell fight Wlad than just about anyone else.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Thinking of Drago just right now…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I love the blue lights in the crowd by the way,,, for some strange reason.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Scandanavians always have great english
It was one of several reasons I enjoyed traveling there. Another being Swedish blondes.
Comparatively. Am I the only one expecting a stinker? I don’t think Povetkin has a high entertainment quotient.
you're not the only one
I hope Boswell makes it a good fight, but no faith.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Nice crowd reactions for both fighters…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Povetkin vs Boswell Round 1
Boswell flicking a jab out to start. Povetkin jumps in with a left hook. Feeling out round for two minutes with both gauging range. Povetkin the one coming forward with power shots, though.
Povetkin 10-9
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Oh man Freddie Roach should not be a commentator. He guys lets have an announcer who talks slowly and mumbles a bit.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
I don’t even bother trying to watch Epix anymore. I don’t like anyone they have working there and it’s always a technical mess to try watching it.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I don’t like anyone they have working there
As analysts I mean. I don’t, like, have beef with them.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Dan Rafael is doing a pretty good job
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
Rafael is on Epix too? It’s interesting at least, people that I’m not used to announcing..
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I probably wouldn’t like it either, but I should watch with him on once. I’d like to hear how he sees things. Hearing Amir Khan was interesting too when Pac and Marquez fought.
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10-9 Povetkin
Feeling out round. Boswell has a decent jab, but not throwing any power shots. Povetkin landed a handful of decent shots.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 3:59 PM EST reply actions
Povetkin vs Boswell Round 2
Povetkin playing it safe as always. Left hook and a right hand over Boswell’s left from Povetkin. He’s just landing the better shots. Boswell pawing with the jab mostly. Boswell misses a right, Povetkin’s counter doesn’t get in either. Povetkin backing him down with a right again.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 20-18
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Povetkin, 20-18
Still not a ton of action, and Boswell’s jab is landing more, but Povetkin is still landing the better shots.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions
Arron is having absolute hell trying to deal with Rose. Not looking good.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
Povetkin was a finished product when he turned pro. You don’t change veteran gold medalists in their late 20s. It just doesn’t happen. He is what he is.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Povetkin vs Boswell Round 3
Povetkin, when he pressures and gets in range, is bothering Boswell. Boswell’s not landing anything. Povetkin is completely in control, and easily avoiding Boswell’s right hands. I’m not seeing this as even kind of close so far. The only thing in Boswell’s favor is Povetkin isn’t doing a ton himself, but it’s still more.
Clash of heads, and Boswell warned for going low. I don’t think Boswell has landed a single significant punch so far, but his corner is enthused. “There you go!” “That was a jab!” “Punching!”
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 30-27
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Boswell, 29-28 Povetkin
Not that Boswell did much this round, but Povetkin landed bubkis.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions
First time I have watched Povetkin. Not really much to get excited about.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
He is a B type fighter… no threat whatsoever to Wald or Vitali.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
yeah!
looks like I didn’t miss Helenius-Chisora…had to endure some extended family time
As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.
Povetkin vs Boswell Round 4
Povetkin swinging his right, missing. Boswell still missing. It’s not that Boz is fighting poorly. Povetkin glances with a left. Povetkin also not doing enough. Same old Povetkin. Jab from Povetkin. Boswell continues to paw. Povetkin with a right in close. Both miss right hands.
this fight is not for me.
Little flurry, no one lands anything. Another one, same result.
Boswell 10-9
Povetkin 39-37
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I'm clearly missing out, then :)
As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.
10-9, 39-37 Povetkin
More jabs from Boswell, except this round Povetkin landed some decent power shots
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:11 PM EST reply actions
BoxNation making Boswell sound like he’s doing a Marquez job and completely fooling Povetkin.
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
They’re mildly overstating his effectiveness. He has not landed a single significant punch, but he is doing a decent job as a cutie.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
He isn’t doing a god job as a cutie… I mean if you use the word cutie… I think of someone who is like Chris John who banks rounds while not really imposing himself.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I’d have this conversation with you, but i don’t…care.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
:(
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
haha no offense
I just only have so much energy for this fight. I’m trying to keep it through the boring 12.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
That's a draw round, I couldn't tell you who won that round..
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so far I wish they'd both have spared me this fight
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Povetkin vs Boswell Round 5
Boswell jumps back when Povetkin throws, as long as he has the room to do so. Povetkin warned for straying low. Don’t think Boz did earlier, don’t think AP did there. Povetkin pressing again. You know, now and again.
Povetkin with a left, Boswell with a shot, and they hug it out, bitch. Crowd wakes up and Povetkin is starting to come alive somewhat. And back to normal. Boswell has got to do more. So does Povetkin, though.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 49-46
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Povetkin, 49-46
Boswell starts to throw his right hand a bit towards the end, but it’s the same old story.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:15 PM EST reply actions
I feel bad for these Finnish fans.
I’ve seen paint dry in a more exciting fashion.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
Boswell might fare better if he became a pressure fighter here, he’s beginning very slowly to get picked apart.
We might end up seeing a Povetkin stoppage…
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Povetkin vs Boswell Round 6
Boswell body shot with the right. Povetkin pawing a jab to come in, then does nothing with it. Boswell is having no trouble staying away from Povetkin. Povetkin with a left hook and a right uppercut. Povetkin cracks him with two shots, and Boswell is holding on. Boz is feeling those shots. Povetkin could stand to do more of that.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 59-55
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Povetkin, 59-55
Povetkin starting to land more.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:19 PM EST reply actions
Povetkin has a nice little inside uppercut.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:21 PM EST reply actions
Povetkin vs Boswell Round 7
Uppercut and a left hook stings Boz again halfway into the round. This has become Povetkin’s fight. Left hand pushes Boswell back after Boswell does land an uppercut, his best punch but didn’t budge Povetkin. AP is imposing his will a little bit more.
Left uppercut from Povetkin. Left hook. Left and right. Boswell trying to cover up. He’s losing ground in the battle for positioning. Boswell pushed back hard by a left, and now Povetkin unloading! Referee looking close — Boswell ties him up after throwing a right, and the round ends.
Boswell’s in bad shape.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 69-64
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Like a halfway decent heavyweight fight I guess
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Arron’s been piss poor. I don’t understand how anyone, unless named Ian John Lewis, could possibly see this his way.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Dec 3, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Don't underestimate the incompetence of judges
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
One card for Arron – classic stuff. Rose was great, Arron sucked. Can’t fight going backwards at all and his jab isn’t good enough to be his sole weapon.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Dec 3, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Who was the judge that scored it for Aaron? Need to stick him on the skip with IJL
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Rose won
Split decs. Whoever had Prince winning needs….. well it wasn’t close
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Povetkin vs Boswell Round 8
Boswell just looks terrible in there now. He’s got nothing left and his legs are gone. He gave it his shot, showed up in shape, and got his chance. But this is getting one-sided. Boswell throwing bombs, though, and missing. Two left hooks from Povetkin and a body shot. Povetkin pops him again. Totally one-sided fight now. Boswell pushed back again, falling into the ropes. He wants to unload a right, but man, he’s exhausted. Left misses, but a right stings Boswell, and another. Left hook! Povetkin unloading on the ropes and DOWN GOES CEDRIC BOSWELL!
he is done. And he’s counted out.
Alexander Povetkin KO-8
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Credit Boswell for toughness, but he wore down in the middle rounds and just got broken down.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:28 PM EST reply actions
The heavyweight division is and always will be crap.
One thing that isn’t crap is my kebab, it’s awesome.
haha
The rats that had a little munch on it before you thought so too
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
You have to be joking
Your third Kebab?
I have one at least once a fortnight.
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I eat like a tank
But im not too bad. Footie on a Sunday morning helps. Pub on Sunday afternoon after a win doesn’t
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
When I say not too bad
I was the fella brushing Broner’s hair last weekend
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Another great site mentioned from Buncey...
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
I think what we can learn from this fight, is that even if someone is obviously winded, Povetkin will still wait and make sure he’s completely ready to open up.
He’s going to be beat up against any other decent HW.
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I’d be on board for Povetkin-Adamek or Povetkin-Arreola or Povetkin-Helenius. Not sure if he has anything to offer against one of the Klitschkos.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:33 PM EST reply actions
Cedric Boswell doesn’t want to make excuses, but here are some.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Boswell’s claiming another torn rotator cuff. Funny how that seems to happen before and during his losses.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:35 PM EST reply actions
Mannix: “Congratulations.”
Boswell: “No, I lost. But thanks!”
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I told you he was an idiot…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Povetkins twin brother?
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
He isn’t a champ, he is a beltholder damn it. Wald is the champ.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Yeah… we have to talk about Wald/Vitali… well because they are the champ. Stop bitching Atlas… just say you want them to retire…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Mannix is on a role
Teddy: Is it in your contract that you have to talk about the K-Bros?
Mannix: Uhhh well uhhhh so uhhhh
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
I would have been… yeah… because your guy wussed out of fighting both guys because you are scared of them.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Cute talk for a guy who can’t shut up about Wladimir so long as Povetkin isn’t involved in the conversation.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
It really screamed that he is an ass…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Sorry, Teddy. It’s an open question until you stop carrying around that bogus paper title and acting like you’re big shots after Povetkin ran away from Wladimir twice.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Seriously, Atlas managed to bring up Klitschko, and take a crap on him, during Wolak vs Rodriguez. He is consumed by hatred for Wladimir Klitschko. which is fine, I don’t care. But you don’t get to dodge questions with an attitude and not be called on it.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Oh God, why do I have to watch Edmund Gerber-Marcus McGee from earlier? This better be a kickass fast KO.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
That looks like a broken orbital bone. The way his hand immediately went to his eye even before he dropped.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 4:51 PM EST reply actions
wow… this is a long ass break between fights.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Only in boxing: Lose the British title get a chance at an even bigger title…
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The Headache from Helsinki! The Baltic Behemoth!
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
excellent plan, that
As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.
Watched the United fight
And that made me wanna down the bottle… but Iv held off til now….
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
have no idea what happened...
did you win? From the afternoon’s been a bit hazy for me…
As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.
Won one nil
We were awful from what I gather though. Saw the second half. No penetration at all untill Welbeck came on deep into 2nd half. Chicarito also went off injured in the first half too
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
And Villa arn't great this season either
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
well a win's a win
I’m just thankful you don’t seem likely to go 20-18 up on us….we lost Lucas for the season, am still a bit in shock over that.
As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.
I've never rated Lucas untill this season
Always thought he offered nothing. Big loss now though
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
definitely :(
As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.
and yeah
City are awesome this season (Sound of puke splattering on floor)
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
one of my friends is still in shock over That result
I remember actually saying to him before the game that I hoped you did well :) With a straight face and everything lol
As a tall guy, you gotta make the shorter guy take risks to get to you. Go through a bad neighborhood to get you.
You put up a real good show last week
I was a Liverpool supporter for 90 minutes :)
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
The Fistic Fjorder!
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
This is why I like fighters from countries that aren’t the US, the people really get behind them…
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I want to hear Robert Helenius himself rap this Three 6 Mafia song.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
The Blaster from Bothnia!
Ok. I’m done.
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
Much like Mike Tyson, you shoulda quit while you were ahead :)
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It’s hard to stop hearing the applause of the crowd…
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Dec 3, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
show the ring girl damn it
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Helenius vs Chisora Round 1
Chisora going to the body to start. Crowd is WHITE HOT! Chisora ducks a right and man, he is really bringing pressure. I like how this is starting. Two jabs from Chisora. Helenius with a right, and now he chases Chisora across the ring. Holy shit this crowd is MOLTEN!
Body shot again from Chisora. Jab breaks the guard. Chisora starting fast and looks in good shape. Still digging to the body. Helenius holding a high guard and just trying to get his feet wet here. Right to the body by Chisora. Chisora just smothering him to start.
I like THIS. Both throwing now in the last 30 seconds, and Helenius digs a left to the body. Trying to use his jab to keep Chisora off.
Chisora 10-9
Fuck yes???
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Chisora
Great round by Chisora. Did some solid body work, landed a few right hands, and kept the pressure on relentlessly.
One concern: the ref looks really eager to break them.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:17 PM EST reply actions
Well, he has two choices
Stay on the outside, conserve energy, and get eaten up, or go for broke.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Helenius vs Chisora Round 2
Chisora banging to the body again. Helenius moving back, but again, keep in mind he can be dangerous moving back. He can still crack that right hand from the back foot. Helenius getting jab moving a bit now. Chisora not getting close enough. Helenius with a right, stings Chisora there.
Chisora firing and gets a right in around the guard. Chisora just will not relent, staiyng right on him. Nice uppercut from Helenius! Left hook Chisora, and then he goes to the body again. Right hand Chisora again. Helenius throws in combination! Helenius closing the round strong with a right uppercut. 30 seconds. Left hook Helenius! chisora throwing, and being warned yet again.
Referee is starting to worry me. Let them fight, asshole.
Back to the body for Chisora with a right hand.
Helenius 10-9
19-19
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Helenius, 19-19
Fun round, Chisora having a bit of a harder time getting inside, but still landing well, while Helenius is putting punches together on the outside.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:21 PM EST reply actions
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Someone tell super mario to get out of the way.
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Helenius vs Chisora Round 3
Helenius finding distance a bit better to start the round. Picking him apart just a hair from range, but the jab still not pumping as he might like. Chisora jabs through, Helenius responds. Right from Chisora around the glove. Chisora being warned AGAIN. Referee getting booed now, I think. Someone get this guy out of here.
Chisora back to the body and then upstairs. Jab from Chisora. A minute left, round can be won. Chisora with a left hook, caught some glove, and Helenius lands a right hand. Chisora taunts him. Chisora to the head, back to the body. I go just slightly to Chisora. Just slightly.
Chisora 10-9
Chisora 29-28
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 CHisora, 29-28
Slow early half of the round, but Chisora took over late. Helenius is having problems keeping Chisora off of him; he’s blocking a lot of Chisora’s punches, but some are getting through.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:25 PM EST reply actions
I'm liking Chisora stylistically
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
When he’s in shape, I like watching him fight.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Helenius vs Chisora Round 4
chisora still pressing and pressing. Back to the body. Right hand over the top, Helenius shoots one back. Chisora to the body, lands a hook. Chisora warned yet again for using the head. Jesus Christ.
Helenius’ jab not landing. He just can’t keep any distance or pick up any rhythm. Chisora literally gets the referee wagging his finger at him. This guy can fuck off. Chisora cracks him with a right hand! Chisora might gas, but man, he is going for it. Going for it.
Referee warns him AGAIN for a headbutt and they weren’t even close to each other. chisora cracks him with another right!
Chisora 10-9
Chisora 39-37
This referee is really, REALLY worrying me now.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
BoxAnne needs to get on this referee's case!
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
10-9 Chisora, 39-37
Chisora just bullying Helenius in there. This was Chisora’s best round. Is this the ref from the Sven Ottke – Robin Reid fight?
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:29 PM EST reply actions
Yes…I don’t know if Chisora is fighting great or Helenius poorly….bit of both.
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
Helenius has had problems with Peter and Liakhovich this year. This guy is young though.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Helenius vs Chisora Round 5
Chisora in control again for the first minute here. Chisora gets in the corner, and flexes his muscles at Helenius. Chisora trying to bait him a little, then Helenius lets him out. Helenius opening up now, but Chisora backs him down again and puts on more pressure. What the fuck is the referee diong breaking them and warning Chisora again?
This is the real deal: This referee is biased and trying to help Helenius. No doubting it.
Chisora back to the body and throwing rights upstairs. body shots really landing hard. Every time the referee separates them, he pushes Chisora back an extra bit. Helenius lands a good left hand! Round ends.
Chisora 10-9
Chisora 49-46
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Chisora, 49-46
Took a breather in the first half of the round, but Helenius couldn’t take advantage, and Chisora dominated the second half.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:33 PM EST reply actions
Regardless of outcome
I want to see Del Boy vs. Arreola
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
Scott
This should be a good write up. Loving this.
Helenius hasn't thrown a jab for ages...
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Helenius vs Chisora Round 6
Oh this referee is just awful. Just awful. 100% biased. This is blatant.
Chisora still targeting the body. Uppercuts land inside as they lean on one another. Another uppercut lands. Helenius throwing shots off the back foot. Chisora pressure, pressure, pressure. Man just right up in Helenius’ grill. Robert just isn’t getting off enough here. Chisora is overwhelming him with volume. This is great stuff from Del Boy. Another uppercut lands from Chisora. Right hand and left hook from Helenius! Another hard shot from Helenius, and Chisora fires back with quality shots!
HELL YEAH!
Helenius with another hard left! Chisora takes a shot at the bell.
Chisora 10-9
Chisora 59-55
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Chisora, 59-55
I’m really liking Chisora as a homeless man’s Joe Frazier.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:37 PM EST reply actions
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Wow, this fight is turning out to be something!
By round 9 they’ll be lying on top of each other.
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Helenius vs Chisora Round 8
First minute nobody landing a ton, then Chisora starts opening up, now from distance. Starting to move around the ring more. Helenius letting him get the breather. Chisora with a wild left hook. Helenius lands big shots!!! Referee shoves Chisora again. This guy’s a turd.
Helenius starting to time him and landing some really nice shots. Left hook from Helenius. Chisora throwing, but starting to lose steam. Helenius with another left hook. Chisora throwing a lot at the end, trying to steal it, but helenius landing, and then Chisora with an uppercut and they throw until the bell!
Helenius 10-9
Chisora 68-65
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Del Boy must have been REALLY pissed about his hotel room.
by SilverLaker on Dec 3, 2011 5:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
10-9 Helenius, 68-65 Chisora
Chisora lays back a bit this round, but this time Helenius takes advantage and lands some good shots in the second half.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:41 PM EST reply actions
Helenius vs Chisora Round 8
Chisora still trying to bring the pressure. Back to the body. Both guys visibly tiring. Body shot from Chisora moved Helenius’ left knee a little bit. Right hand from Helenius. Uppercut from Chisora. Two body shots and a chopping right to the head from Chisora.
I think the referee just warned Chisora for being shoved by Helenius.
Helenius takes another hard hook to the body. Chisora looking much fresher this round. Body work appears to be adding up. Right hand from Chisora again. Jab, jab, jab. two right hands. Chisora overwhelming in this round. Two more hard body shots. Helenius with a hook moving back. Helenius tries to steal it. Chisora now warned for elbowing. My God.
Chisora 10-9
Chisora 78-74
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Chisora, 78-74
Helenius just has no idea how to keep Chisora off of him, and Chisora is eating him up in close.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:45 PM EST reply actions
HIT HIM WHEN YOU GOT HIM IN THE CORNER ASSHOLE!!
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Helenius vs Chisora Round 9
Chisora comes out with a left to the body and a wild overhand right upstairs that barely lands. Chisora back in in the referee’s bad graces. I think the referee just FRISKED him.
Chisora standing on the ropes and taunting again. Chisora to the body again when they get back off the ropes. Hard body shot and a left hook from Chisora. Helenius snapped back on a right hand as he’s throwing his own. I thought the referee was about to warn Helenius — but no, he was helping him with his trunks or wrist or something.
This referee is absurd.
Chisora jabbing to the body now. Left to body, right to head from Chisora. He wants that right hand. Trying to move Helenius’ eyes for a bomb right. Helenius just has not gotten any sustained momentum in this fight. This referee is a disgrace.
Chisora 10-9
Chisora 88-83
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
10-9 Chisora, 88-83
Chisora taking the first minutes of some rounds off, and Helenius is just letting him by not doing anything. Chisora ate Helenius up the latter half of that round.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:50 PM EST reply actions
Nah, Wlad hides behind that job so much better. It looks like that’s what Helenius wants to do, but it ineffective. The same wouldn’t happen against Wlad I think…
His jab would be effective.
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Wlad's footwork means Chisora would get nowhere near him
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Helenius vs Chisora Round 10
I…swear to God. I have no idea what this referee thinks he’s doing. If he were paid off, he’s doing a horrible job being discreet or finding ways to dictate the action without anyone noticing.
Chisora still overhwleming with activity. Referee warns him yet again. This is getting Ottke-ish, and will be if Helenius gets the win. Right hand Helenius grazes. Two jabs from Chisora. Left hook around the gloves from Chisora.
right hand Chisora. Helenius throws, doesn’t land. He’s just being shut down at this point. He’s tired. Right hand from Helenius hits a lot of glove. Chisora not having a great round, but totally outworking Helenius, who hasn’t done enough to take it either.
Chisora 10-9
Chisora 98-92
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
yes he does…or three friendly judges.
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Dec 3, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
10-9 Chisora, 98-92
Helenius is exhausted. He can kind of throw a jab, but there’s nothing on the few power shots he’s throwing. Meanwhile, Chisora’s got a goddamn gas tank on him tonight.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:54 PM EST reply actions
So Chisora has won how many rounds on the official cards? 2?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 3, 2011 5:56 PM EST reply actions
Helenius vs Chisora Round 11
Holy shit, the referee just waved his hand in front of Chisora’s face as he was moving toward Helenius. I swear. Chisora still dominating the pace of the fight. Helenius trying to land some cuonters, but these are arm punches now.
Chisora staying on him. Now the referee stops the fight to mess with Chisora’s trunks. The BoxNation guys are not making enough of how disruptive this awful referee has been.
Body shots from Chisora again, now chopping upstairs. Closer round.
Helenius 10-9
Chisora 107-102
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Man I hope Chisora gets the victory he deserves
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
10-9 Chisora, 108-101
Closer round, but everything Helenius landed were slappy arm punches.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 5:57 PM EST reply actions
Helenius vs Chisora Round 12
Helenius coming out for the KO. Chisora pressuring anyway. Helenius nearly catches him wide open with a right hand. Chisora with a long right hand. NOW THEY’RE THROWING! HELENIUS WITH AN UPPERCUT! CHISORA FIRING BACK! HELL YEAH!
HALF A ROUND TOG O!
Chisora WINGING overhand rights! Helenius dog tired here. Chisora looks much fresher overall. A minute to go. Chisora banging away. Just throwing and throwing and keeping Helenius in a covered-up stance. Chisora dominating in activity here to close the fight. Right hand lands. Helenius lands and the crowd erupts, but nothing huge. Chisora takes the round, and IMO, absolutely takes the fight.
Terrific fight.
Chisora 10-9
Chisora 117-111
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I smell a robbery…but maybe it’s those left over Brussel sprouts.
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
Chisora 117-111...
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
10-9 Helenius, 117-111
Anything but a clear Chisora win would be a sickening robbery. Credit to Helenius for hanging in despite taking a hell of a beating, and fighting hard late, but he got worked over.
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 6:02 PM EST reply actions
If Dereck Chisora did not get the W here, he has been flat ass robbed, no question about it. Not even a debate, IMO. Duke McKenzie sounded desperate to make it seem close. It was exciting, but Chisora absolutely, 100%, no question won the fight.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I gave it Chisora 116-112.
Official score I’m guessing 118-110 Helenius.
That ref was pretty comical, I’m shocked he didn’t take a point.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
the ref did a good job..Chisora was holding and hitting, and headbutting. Not real bad, not enough to take away a point and the ref DID NOT take a point away. So good job as far as I’m concerned.
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Dec 3, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
How about the extra shoves to Chisora? Or the random yelling at him? Or the sticking his hand in Chisora’s face? Or the random frisking of Chisora.
The ref was HORRIBLE
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 3, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
And he’s going to get fucking robbed. I just know it.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Helenius vs Chisora Scores
115-113 Helenius
115-113 Chisora
115-113 Helenius
Robert Helenius by bullshit robbery split decision
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
ouch….rematch in London?
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
That was wrong, but at least the judges at least kept it close to make it not look as shifty.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
Del Boy should go straight Paulie!!!!
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
Ludvig Borga taught me not to trust the Finns…ever.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 3, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
I always loved "Evil Finn"
I mean, what the hell?
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Actually by the names of the judges, it was two Italians and Pole.
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One spaniard, one italian, and one pole
by Verklemptomaniac on Dec 3, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
This is why we can’t have nice things.
by SilverLaker on Dec 3, 2011 6:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well, I was late to this thread but as soon as I saw the scores after every round, I knew what would happen.
The only way you beat a home boy in his home if he is hot and marketable is by shooting him.
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—Jimmy Cannon
I wouldn't call
Helienus Hot though
Heinus… maybe
by Sweet science on Dec 3, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
FINNISH RULES:
Showboating gets you minus points.
That’s the only explanation. They just seemed way too nice.
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Bunce is making a bit too much of Chisora. He won, that’s enough. He’s no throwback to Ron Lyle and the 1970s. Let’s not get too enthusiastic.
Time to find another BLH thread. I have a serious disease.
by DrRck on Dec 3, 2011 6:50 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
LOL
was seriously entertained with your discussion, even though I don’t really care about this card. if what you have is a disease, i’d like to have one too.
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