Mayweather vs Pacquiao: Roger Mayweather Confirms Meeting With Michael Koncz, Fight Discussed
by Scott Christ on Dec 5, 2011 5:10 PM EST
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In a report from Chris Robinson of the Examiner, Roger Mayweather has confirmed that Manny Pacquiao adviser Michael Koncz was recently in Las Vegas to meet with Team Mayweather, and a fight between Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr was indeed discussed.
"The fight is too big not to happen. The fight is too big for the world not to see it. Since the fight is too big for the world to not see it, the fight has to happen. It ain't like Floyd won’t fight Manny Pacquiao. And I don’t think Manny Pacquiao would say he don’t want to fight Floyd."
And Roger did confirm that he had met up with Koncz, but it doesn’t appear that they first crossed paths at the gym.
"Michael Koncz? You mean Pacquiao’s manager? Yeah, I was here. I was with him at the hotel."
All of this is a fairly big change in tone from Roger, who has often said in the past that he didn't see the fight happening. These negotiations, whatever they are, are real in the sense that they've happened.
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How real, and how much weight they should be given, is another story. At this point, it's kind of impossible to tell if there's any legitimate progress, or if this is just another round of talks where nothing is really achieved.
Still, they've gotten fairly far into negotiations in the past. It's a 50-50 money fight, and everyone knows that. There will be drug testing if it happens, and everyone knows that. Most of the big stuff has been agreed to in prior talks.
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Shall I let myself get excited by this, knowing that I am likely to just be dissapointed? Something feels different this time. I am far more hopeful than before
I wish you luck with that. There is one thing that certain is different this time: Pacquiao is less dangerous.
+1
I don’t doubt it. And prehaps that is what making people sit at the table. Floyd thinking there is less chance of losing his 0… And Manny & his people thinking time is running out to make a ridiculous pay day
by Sweet science on Dec 5, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
It was the undefeated mark on Mayweather record that made him the most
reluctant to first take on Manny. If Floyd ever had a chance on beating the undisputed champ it would be now.
Jared Allen, Culinary Acadamy
by aPacificChief on Dec 5, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
FWIW
http://fighthype.com/pages/content11299.html
Mayweather says nothing happening until the defamation lawsuit is cleared up.
Honestly Koncz meeting up with Roger means absolutely nothing because Roger doesn’t negotiate fights for Floyd. If Haymon and Ellerbe are not involved, no fight is being made.
"Boxing is like dealing with a ho"
-Bernard Hopkins
Im sure the Defam lawsuit will go away once they smell the pot size
by Sweet science on Dec 5, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
If Haymon and Ellerbe are not involved
Ellerbe reports he’s never been involved in anything, ever. Who is Ellerbe, asks Ellerbe. Not him.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
lol...true
"Boxing is like dealing with a ho"
-Bernard Hopkins
I heard about that, too.
Plus, Arum was coaxing FMJ’s team saying if they were interested in making the fight that the suit will be dropped. This is all weird. I’m actually more worried than excited. Everything in the book has been said about this fight, and absolutely nothing is adding up.
Nothing coming from these negotions is solid information. Just more he said, he said dribble.
Off topic, that Khan Peterson fight week photo is weird. Peterson looks like Steve Harvey and Amir Khan doesn’t look like himself. His face looks like somebody hit it with a frying pan.
"He's still a very strong fighter, but I am way better than he is" - Miguel Cotto
Yeah Amir looked weird at that presser — I think it’s just the haircut changing how his head looks compared to normal, because that’s shorter than usual and does him no favors.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I really don’t see how this fight matters much anymore.
I’m a great Pacquiao fan, and I respect Mayweather, because I like the way he fights. I was excited 2 years ago about the prospect of this fight. Now, I think that they’re both too much of the past; there are better, and more exciting fighters, whether in their weight classo r not.
I think that boxing, such as it is, will be fine whether or not Pacquiao-Mayweather ever happens.
I really don’t see how this fight matters much anymore.
Because it’s the two most well-known fighters on the planet facing each other. I really don’t understand this idea that they shouldn’t fight or that it’s meaningless now. Aren’t all fights meaningless then? “I really don’t see how Khan vs Peterson matters,” etc.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I’ll explain myself.
Yes, all fights are meaningless, because they don’t mean anything except to demented people like us.
Pacquiao and Mayweather were exciting, two years ago; to some, maybe the thrill continues,but not to me.
Yes, these are the two most well-known fighters, to some people, but not to me. I know many other fighters because of BHL, and a lot of them are very exciting indeed.
I just can’t see why Pacquiao-Mayweather would amount to anything.
This from the guy who defends Klitschko vs Mormeck as a mark in the history books.
(That’s not meant as dismissive as it probably reads – just funnin’.)
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Dec 5, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I also don’t understand how or why people say that this fight does not matter anymore. These 2 fighters are still the top 2 welterweights out there and this would still be a match up of styles. I always thought Mayweather would be able to control Manny and win the fight and now more people are thinking that based on the Marquez fight. But I think the Marquez fight was best thing that happened to Manny b/c it brought him back down a bit and now he can concentrate on what he needs to improve. Roach should be able to develop a game plan for Manny and now I think this fight will be even better matchup than before.
I’m getting excited. If it lives up to the hype the only thing we’ll be disappointed about is that they could have three fights in the time it took to make one.
By the way is anyone surprised that Roger Mayweather knew Michael Koncz from a bag of white rice? Haha
by RRod806 on Dec 5, 2011 8:07 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I sincerely doubt it will live up to the hype. There’s almost no scenario in my mind, except for Pacquiao brutally KOing Mayweather after Mayweather has been his usually dominant self, that could live up to 3 years of speculative hype.
"He's still a very strong fighter, but I am way better than he is" - Miguel Cotto
If it happens
It will happen without the middle men.
My prediction is that Floyd deals straight up, himself, with TR and Manny.
No GB. Nobody but those two.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
1) I told myself i wouldnt get my hopes up again – but is sounds like things might actualy work out
2) I had always told myself i would try and scrape up enough cash to try and make it to the fight if it happened. No way can i make it on May 5th, (live in the UK so it would cost a fuck load of £$£$£$£$)
3) Im going to put a £50 bet on Mayweather. Its a win win situation for me. If he loses i will be over the moon, i HATE HIM as a person and love Pacquiao. I would pay hundreds to see mayweather get beat. And if Pacquiao loses then i will have a nice £50 to cheer myself up with =(
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