Jorge Arce vs Tomas Rojas: Rojas Says He Took a Dive, Watch the Fight For Yourself (Video)
by Scott Christ on Dec 8, 2011 6:09 PM EST
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PrintA big controversy has kicked up in Mexico, as Tomas Rojas says that he did take a dive in a 2007 fight in Las Vegas against Jorge Arce.
Here's the fight. It's definitely worth watching.
The whole story started earlier this week, and Rojas initially denied ever telling the reporter who broke the story that he had taken a dive against Arce. But now he says that he did tell that reporter, but that he told him in confidence, off the record, and is questioning the reporter's ethics and all of that.
Of course, Rojas is the one who took a dive, or so he says.
For Arce's part, the popular Mexican warrior has denied any knowledge of a fixed outcome, and there are plenty who doubt Rojas' story. The body shot which effectively ends the fight can be seen above, at a great angle -- and there's no doubt it lands hard and in a spot where we've seen plenty of fighters stopped over the years.
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Rojas looked like he was fighting hard if he was going to take a dive. He hit Arce with some very good shots.
On a sidenote: Does anybody else think Joe Cortez jumped in awfully fast to stop it?
There’s some part of the story where supposedly Rojas had an opening to knock Arce out before six. It’s a complicated tale.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
On a sidenote: Does anybody else think Joe Cortez jumped in awfully fast to stop it?
Eh, not really. Rojas got up from the body shot, turned his back to the referee, and then when the action resumed he did nothing but turtle in the corner.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Looks like a legit shot to me.
According to what was published initially Rojas was told that if he could KO Arce within 6 he could do so which is why he took the fight, then at the weigh in he was told that now he had to go down in the 6th.
Don’t know what to believe, if he supposedly took a dive to do as he was told it would have been easier to simply stay down once he was down. Why risk getting up and leaving things in the hands of the ref, what if he doesn’t intervene and allows the fight to go on longer?
having watched that for the first time that is no way in my opinion a dive and don’t see how that can even have credibility unless most of the ring was in cohoots about it, not least definately having to include cortez who has never before or after really had any corruption troubles that i’m aware of at least (unless for some warped reason you think hatton got robbed XD) but just ridiculous in my eyes, how that even got printed is beyond me
No dive. Rojas was actually fighting agreat fight until that point. He went doen immdeiately.
If thatwas a dive, the acting was Triple AAA
"Boxing is the red light district of sports."
—Jimmy Cannon
WTF, The mexican american Joe Cortez?
Thought Joe was puerto rican.
Now someone post the JMM 1st round ko of of Likar Ramos.
Talk about a suspicious ending in mexico.
Not a dive
have no idea whom he’s trying to discredit, other than himself. But he was winning, took a hell of a body shot, was clearly hurt by it, and Cortez correctly stopped the fight. Can only assume that Rojas in some perverse way figures saying he threw the fight implies that otherwise he’d have won it. Like, I threw it so that loss doesn’t count, ridiculous of course, but I’m guessing that’s how his mind’s working it. And if that body shot hadn’t destroyed him he probably would have won it, I had him up 4 at the close, and that’s probably kind to Arce.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
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