Buy or Sell: Juan Manuel Lopez v. Orlando Salido on April 16
by Scott Christ on Feb 3, 2011 5:34 PM EST
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Dan Rafael of ESPN.com reports today that Juan Manuel Lopez's scheduled April 16 fight is finally set with an opponent, as Lopez will put his undefeated record and 126-pound alphabet soup strap on the line against former titlist Orlando Salido.
This delays, again, the 126-pound clash between Top Rank's Lopez and Yuriorkis Gamboa, which has been on the minds of boxing fans for over a year now. Gamboa (19-0, 15 KO) will be on HBO on March 26, facing Jorge Solis (40-2-2, 29 KO), who will be stepping back down from 130 pounds to take on the talented Cuban.
Lopez (30-0, 27 KO) and Salido (34-11-2, 22 KO) will meet in Bayamon, Puerto Rico, with Showtime televising the bout. Salido's last fight was a September loss to Gamboa on HBO in a fight that disappointed many in terms of action, but saw Salido prove his sturdiness and determination. He's definitely a fighter better than his record looks on paper, but do you see this as Top Rank giving Lopez a softer touch than you'd prefer? Is the fight a good one to you because Salido is a credible challenger, even if not a first choice?
In other words, buy or sell this one? And bonus question! Which is the better fight: Lopez-Salido or Gamboa-Solis?
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Solis is a legitimate opponent
Salido is very much not. Going from a skilled albeit old Penalosa and Marquez, to Salido is frankly embarrassing. Put your fighter in a challenging fight for once in your life Bob Arum….(Yeah I know he makes some ok matchups but come on already)
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Salido isn't that bad
He did beat Robert Guerrero pretty convincingly, although the lethargic Guerrero (e.g., the one we saw against Casamayor) turned up in that one.
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by Brickhaus on Feb 4, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Salido isn’t that bad
Yeah, I’m really surprised by this reaction. Salido is far from a can.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Feb 4, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Both
I see the benefit of these fights for both Lopez and Gamboa. Unfortunately or fortunately, boxing is a sport intrinsically driven by money. To US, the hardcore fans, Lopez-Gamboa is a fight that should have happened by now, if not twice (what other two fighters look like they can thrill us with a trilogy?). To the general public however, Lopez-Gambo is probably nothing. I say, let the promoters build the hype, see how the general public responds to the Showtime/CBS experiment and see if this fight doesn’t become a (insert whatever is below a Super Fight here).
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by glatin1982 on Feb 4, 2011 1:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
To the general public however, Lopez-Gambo is probably nothing. I say, let the promoters build the hype
Yeah here’s the problem — they haven’t built any hype. This fight has been brewing for a year and it’s become 0% hotter than it was on day one of the talk of matching them, and probably has actually lost interest if anything, as people start to think Top Rank has no interest in actually having them fight, just interest in occasionally talking about how great it would be, which isn’t designed to build TO a Lopez-Gamboa fight, but keep people paying attention to individual Lopez and Gamboa fights if possible. They haven’t made a single casual fan more interested in Lopez-Gamboa. Arum’s idea that it can be the biggest featherweight fight ever is nice promoter talk, but this is a situation where they just keep sticking the guys in fights that don’t attract any interest, and even worse, they barely try to go that direction. Lopez-Marquez had more hype than your average featherweight TV fight, but was still a hardcore fans-only fight.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 4, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree wholeheartedly with this. And this is my problem. How have Juanma or Gamboa become bigger stars? In now way. Ask casual fans and they will probably have no idea who these two are.
I hate the way Juanma’s career is being managed and I hate the fact that he doesn’t seem to interested in standing up for it, either.
Steve Addazio is gone! Thank you Temple!!!!
I will not buy any PPV promoted by Bob Arum.
by Apprentice on Feb 4, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
- in NO way… not in “now” way hahaha
Steve Addazio is gone! Thank you Temple!!!!
I will not buy any PPV promoted by Bob Arum.
Yeah here’s the problem — they haven’t built any hype. This fight has been brewing for a year and it’s become 0% hotter than it was on day one …
Very true. Same as Alexander/Bradley. Fans were calling for it for a long time and Shaw/King kept saying, “When it’s ripe,” and then did nothing to ripen it. Eventually just did it because no other fights made sense, not that Abregu did anyway.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Feb 4, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah here’s the problem — they haven’t built any hype.
Yeah, you got me there. I generally gauge the popularity of a brewing fight by what my friend, who is a huge MMA fan, knows. He knows and is interested in it at the very least.
Maybe I have too much faith that promoters will actually, you know, do their jobs. I have a feeling, the same one that told me Bradley-Alexander would be a let down, that Lopez-Gamboa will be a fight for the ages. Maybe that’s why I give the promoters undue credit.
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I think it could be a marvelous fight.
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Anybody else think Salido could give Lopez the same sort of fight that Mtagwa did?
Ok, Gamboa beat the shit out of Salido, but he also beat the shit out of Rogers…. I’m not sure Salido doesn’t give Lopez some serious problems.
In 2008 Lewis commented on a possible match up with Riddick Bowe. "He waits until I am in retirement to call out my name," said Lewis. "I will come out of retirement to beat up that guy. I'll beat him up for free."
Ok, Gamboa beat the shit out of Salido
Did he? He won clearly, but I would not call that “beating the shit out of” Salido.
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I don't think you can really extract from one's performance (Gamboa) how the other will do (JuanMa).
Because they’re so stylistically different. And Mtagwa is a great example of it.
“X did better against Z than Y did” is just not terribly instructive in this particular instance.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Feb 4, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
it’ll be a good fight
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by battle axe of doom on Feb 4, 2011 2:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sell
And Gamboa-Solis is a better fight, IMO. Salido is credible, but Lopez needs to step it up to the next level already. That means Gamboa or John.
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Would you accept Elio Rojas as a step up? That’s a legit question. I can’t gauge where the general consensus has him fitting into the 126 landscape.
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Rojas would be fine
Although IMO he’s more untested than anything. I just haven’t seen him fight since before he won a belt, I don’t think, and I wasn’t super impressed back then. I assume he’s improved since then though.
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I'd also live with Hasegawa
Despite not being that experienced at 126, although it would never happen anyway.
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Sell
This would be a fine fight if Lopez was coming off of a loss, or an injury, or if it was explicitly a tune-up fight before fighting Gamboa to stave off ring rust. Salido’s no stiff. But Lopez is supposed to be top 2-3 in the division; he shouldn’t be fighting guys like Salido as a regular, scheduled, planned opponent.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 4, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions
I'm gonna buy with an asterisk.
I’m fine with Solis and Salido if the next fight is Gamboa/JuanMa in the summer like Unca Bob says it’s gonna be. If we continue to get bullshit fights like this one going forward I reserve the right to retroactively come back and heap scorn on this one as well.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Feb 4, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions
That’s probably closest to where I’m at, too. Neither are BAD fights, IMO. And if the next fight is JML-Yuri, then fine.
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Sell
I feel like we’re asking whether it’s a legitimate opponent every time JuanMa fights. The Marquez fight was a nice step up, but this feels like a letdown.
Believe you me, I find this son of Africa quite affable. But, still he must get a proper trashing. I plan to crimson his face with a series of dapper lefts, then bring issue to rest a powerful blow, upon his dark and mysterious brow. For as we all know, the muscular African is no match for the lanky, smooth-talking Irishman, and history will prove me correct!
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