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Saturday Boxing Results: Maidana-Morales Surprises, Kirkland Stunned, Adamek a Winner

Marcos Maidana overcame a very competitive Erik Morales on Saturday night. (Photo by Scott Heavey/Getty Images)

Las Vegas, Nevada

We recapped this card already, so go check out those posts: Maidana-Morales, Guerrero-Katsidis, Kirkland-Ishida/Malignaggi-Cotto.

  • Marcos Maidana MD-12 Erik Morales: I don't know that Erik Morales has another one of these in him, but then I didn't think he had this one in him. This was a case of youth barely sneaking past experience and knowledge. If Maidana makes a few more mistakes, he loses this fight or leaves with a draw. If Morales is...well, I'd say a couple of years younger, but really let's say if he were in his prime. If you could bulk prime Morales up to 140 and do it the right way (it's fantasy, go with me here), he takes care of Maidana no problem. I think we saw, with all due respect to Marcos Maidana, the difference in class between these two fighters. Morales is a better fighter than Maidana. Maidana is younger than Morales, and good enough that that becomes "good enough." This really might be a rematch situation; Maidana isn't exactly on the doorstep of anything much bigger, with Bradley and Khan set to face each other in July most likely, and after that there are good fighters in the division but no money men. His best options would be either a rematch or a fight with Zab Judah, probably. I think he wins a rematch bigger. I really think Erik Morales probably left what he had in the ring in this one, and it won't hurt that Maidana saw everything Morales can throw at him. But this was a great fight, and for longtime Morales fans, an emotional one. He almost did it. He really almost did it.
  • Robert Guerrero UD-12 Michael Katsidis: Katsidis hung in and didn't get knocked down or anything, but Guerrero beat the hell out of him and looked two levels better than the Aussie. I think, in all candor, I've had my fill of Katsidis fighting elite-level guys for the time being. There are fights I'd like to see him. I'd like to see him face John Murray, for instance, as I think that would be appropriate for both men. A step up for Murray, and the right step back for Katsidis. Guerrero looked better than ever in this one, but let's not forget that Katsidis is a stationary target and not hard to look good against. Definitely count me as on board for Marquez-Guerrero, though. That's a serious challenge for the old champ. Guerrero says he wants Floyd Mayweather Jr., though -- that's most likely just talk to get Guerrero's name out there more, but I thought the same about Mayweather-Marquez. Hey, listen, we're talking about a lightweight calling out welterweight, inactive Floyd. It has happened before.
  • Nobuhiro Ishida TKO-1 James Kirkland: I'm sorry, but unless something miraculous happens, I don't see James Kirkland really coming back from this. He looked hopeless in there, and there's something quite off about his body language and his overall presence, or aura, or whatever. Kirkland's post-fight comments were also about as delusional as they come, as he complained about the referee deciding to stop a fight where he was getting knocked down three times on 15 landed punches against a non-puncher. Kirkland's defense is worse than ever, and it was never any good, and this fight made it look like if you don't go in scared of him, he's not so scary. Post-fight Kirkland sounded like one of those kids on the playground who always had an excuse for sucking at basketball, who would respond to taunts about their crappiness with, "My ankle is spranged (sic)" and the like. I hope Kirkland surprises me, but I just don't see it now. He's not the same guy he was in 2009.
  • Paulie Malignaggi UD-10 Jose Miguel Cotto: Good opener, and Malignaggi looked pretty decent, while Cotto looked...like Jose Miguel Cotto. Malignaggi says he may have broken his left hand in the fight, and that both hands are injured.
  • Danny Garcia UD-10 Nate Campbell: Scores were 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92, but reports of Campbell's performance are fairly positive and some feel the scores were too wide. No one is arguing the winner, though. Garcia is now 21-0 (14 KO).
  • Rakhim Chakhkiev KO-3 Harvey Jolley: An easy matchup for Chakhiev (10-0, 8 KO), who was really the best prospect on the show, not Garcia.
  • Mikael Zewski SD-6 Clint Coronel: Very odd scores here, as Zewski took one card 60-54, Coronel took another 60-54, and the third went to Zewski, 59-55. Coronel apparently gave Zewski (9-0, 5 KO) quite a battle.

Ater the jump: Adamek! Stuart Hall! Robert Stieglitz! More!

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Newark, New Jersey

  • Tomasz Adamek UD-12 Kevin McBride: Scores were 119-108 (twice) and 120-107, with McBride losing a point in the seventh. Reports are that this was basically sparring for Adamek (44-1, 28 KO), which was what most expected. Honestly I find the idea that Adamek has prepared for Vitali Klitschko by fighting worn out Michael Grant and even more worn out Kevin McBride to be folly; they are no more a tune-up for Vitali than fighting Anthony Small would be a tune-up for Floyd Mayweather. Adamek will be on a different planet against Klitschko.
  • Sadam Ali KO-3 Javier Perez: Ali (12-0, 7 KO) gets another easy showcase win. It's kind of odd to keep giving him these highlight reel, easy fights on shows that nobody really watches, but if they build another Newark draw in the long run, then Main Events has done a good job. Ali could probably get more fans in Newark for a main event at this point than Tim Bradley can get anywhere.
  • Joselito Collado SD-6 Rafael Lora
  • Andrzej Fonfara KO-4 Ray Smith

Magdeburg, Germany

  • Robert Stieglitz DQ-10 Khoren Gevor: Well, I'm never inviting Khoren Gevor to one of my parties. That guy's out of hand. Stieglitz was handling the fight when Gevor was given a deduction in the tenth round, after which the two tumbled to the canvas with Stieglitz getting cut in the process. The referee disqualified Gevor, who then threw punches at the referee and was removed by security. Stieglitz is now 40-2 (23 KO), while Gevor falls to 31-6 (16 KO).
  • Jack Culcay TKO-3 Mikheil Khutsishvili

Tokyo, Japan

  • Yota Sato UD-10 Kohei Kono: Sato (21-2-1, 11 KO) retains the Japanese super flyweight title with a win over Kono (25-6, 9 KO) on scores of 97-93 (twice) and 96-93. 

Bacolod City, Philippines

  • Donnie Nietes KO-1 Armando Vazquez: Time of stoppage was 2:26, improving strawweight challenger Nietes to 28-1-3 (16 KO).
  • Jason Pagara KO-2 Deo Njiku: 18-year-old junior welterweight prospect Pagara is now 26-1 (15 KO).
  • Lorenzo Villanueva KO-5 James Mokoginta: Villanueva, a southpaw featherweight, is nicknamed "Thunder Volt," and is now 20-0 (19 KO).

Houghton-le-Spring, England

  • Stuart Hall TKO-5 John Donnelly: Hall, the reigning British bantamweight champ, improves to 11-0-1 (7 KO) with the stoppage of Donnelly (12-2, 3 KO).
  • Karl Place TKO-5 George Watson

Hartford, Connecticut

  • Tony Grano TKO-6 Dominique Alexander: Basically a matchup of heavyweight afterthoughts, with Grano (18-2-1, 14 KO) the closer to a prospect between the two of them, and not really a prospect at 30 and having been stopped twice, including in his last fight. Alexander (20-11-1, 9 KO) has now been stopped nine times for his trouble.
  • Danny Aquino TKO-1 James Owens: I saw Aquino (6-1, 2 KO) fight in December against Cuban Yoandris Salinas, and really came away more impressed with the more raw Aquino than I did Salinas, who won the fight. He's far from a major prospect at 122, but he's got some potential.

Hampton, Virginia

  • George Foreman III KO-1 Eric Lindsey: Yeah, they keep running this show.

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I love the weekend recaps

This was a real fun weekend. Upsets galore and a FOTY contender (which I will be scouring youtube to watch). I’m looking forward to next weekend, especially JuanMa/Salido. I have a feeling it will be a fun fight, and I think I’ll watch it live over the HBO show, which is very interesting to me as well.

by ColtJouvet on Apr 10, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Don’t know where you are, but HBO Latino will rebroadcast it next weekend at 10:00 pm ET Friday (Rafael) for free.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Apr 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve also read that Martin Honorio will likely replace Roman Martinez against Luis Cruz and the fight will remain as the Showtime co-feature. Is Honorio any good?

by ColtJouvet on Apr 10, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Hes decent.

he beat John Molina on FNF last Nov., lost to Robert Guerrero in ‘07, I don’t think he’s lost since.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Apr 10, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's lost since

Since Molina he’s gone 2-1 and lost a MD to Argenis Mendez.

Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

my mistake, sorry

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Apr 10, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, thanks.

Speaking of Molina, he hasn’t fought since knocking out Hank Lundy. I’m surprised he hasn’t been back on FNF.

by ColtJouvet on Apr 10, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just had a ShoBox main event that was set for 5/13 against Sharif Bogere scrapped. Word is he’s getting new management.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

That would have been an interesting. Molina made me a fan in that Lundy fight.

by ColtJouvet on Apr 10, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he's OK

Still a good test for Cruz, just not AS good.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crazy!

We get to see Erik Morales show us how it’s done, for FREE. I would have happily paid £50 ppv for that, never mind $50. The rest of the time Sky ppv events are pretty piss poor.

by Phill on Apr 10, 2011 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Random but

Has anyone seen the Rios/Nashiro fight from January? I’m through three rounds and its pretty good so far.

by ColtJouvet on Apr 10, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Rojas-Nashiro from early February? Yeah, pretty good fight. Nashiro’s always in good fights it seems.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah February

Through 5 and its really good. Unless it tanks from here, this is one of the better fights I’ve seen this year. Nashiro is fast becoming a favorite.

by ColtJouvet on Apr 10, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really, really enjoyed this weekend. There’s something about some of those Golden Boy cards. Sometimes they seem to be so-so and they turn out to be really good. I enjoyed the whole show last night and I enjoyed the upsets from the day before as well. Rare form, this weekend!

Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.

by Apprentice on Apr 10, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

First Lemeiux and then Kirkland?

If Berto loses to Ortiz somehow next week, I’m officially fresh out of man crushes in this sport.

by OmarLittle on Apr 10, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

You should be like the writer in Unforgiven and start following the guy who beats up/kills your previous guy. You should be a big Marco Antonio Rubio/Nobuhiro Ishida fan now.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

He’s chinny though. If he wasn’t, he’d probably be undefeated for the last 8 years.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 10, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to believe the sequel with be very short.

He was brought in to get beat up. As Max said, cannon fire.
He could retire now and be his own champion.

Or live to get beat another day.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Apr 10, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Max said “cannon fodder”.

"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees

by lcollins1 on Apr 10, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

W.W. Beauchamp I believe (or something like that). Dude pissed himself. I don’t think I’m quite that guy.

You’ve been talking about that Queen of yours, Bob? On Independence Day!

Unforgiven is awesome.

by OmarLittle on Apr 10, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s my favorite movie of the 1990s, one of my favorite ever. And yes, W.W. Beauchamp. The last scene is incredible EVERY TIME.

Who’s the fella owns this shithole?

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deserve’s got nothin’ to do with it

by OmarLittle on Apr 10, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a great movie.

Unforgiven and True Grit have proven that the Western is as alive as it ever has been.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Apr 10, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

also:

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
The Proposition
3:10 to Yuma (well, I liked it anyway)
Tombstone (popcorny, but greatly enjoyable)
and the incredibly overlooked Open Range.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never seen Open Range. I’ll have to check that one out.. All the other ones are great though. Unforgiven is without a doubt the best for me. Not sure if any of you have seen Lonsome Dove. It was a Mini Series a long time ago but also a great western.

by asmiley420 on Apr 10, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Ishida can capitalize

On his win a little, maybe get a couple of slightly larger paydays this year as the “Kirkland-slayer.”

by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 10, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Question

Was the Kirkland fight stopped too soon? I watched a replay of the fight on YT last night, and thought he should have received a count. He looked like he was gonna get up and then Cortez pushed him down.

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Apr 10, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I've been saying Cortez is past his prime for a while now

I think I would have let him get back up, and if he gets back up good.

by journeyintosound on Apr 10, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, to be quite honest, it might have been stopped early, but at the same time, he was going down on everything. And I admit I think Cortez is a subpar referee these days, but I have to think it’s very tough for any referee, in the moment, to judge something like that. He’s going down over and over, and on the second knockdown he was rocked pretty good and on the third was still on bad legs. So Cortez, or any referee, has to contemplate how hurt the fighter is, plus he’s going down over and over, plus he basically looked like a punching bag at that point. I imagine that’s not easy.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what I'm saying is

Could Kirkland have kept fighting? Sure. Was he going to get knocked down more? Almost certainly. Ishida had his number.

Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah you're probably right

He didn’t look bad when he was getting back up from the knockdowns, but it looked like he’d keep getting knocked down.

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Apr 10, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over and over and over.

He was so bad at protecting himself, Kellerman clled the shot before James saw it coming. Now whether you like Max or not, that is bad.

I do think Kirkland was ok and could have probably have continued but for what reason. He had no game. Not last night. That’s for sure.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Apr 10, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having woked all weekend :/ i had to check these fights out after the results, and sc’s crazy play by play lol, and i could understand Kirklands complaints having watched the first two knockdowns, but the last one his head bounced off the mat.. Cortez made a good call imo.

by properdave on Apr 11, 2011 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

His legs were gone. They’d have stayed gone for minutes. I dunno – he could have come back, he could also have been knocked down about 8 times.

"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees

by lcollins1 on Apr 10, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it would be the latter

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Apr 10, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a modern day record for number of KDs in a round?

Because he was heading for it

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Apr 10, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

think Valero had a massive 1st round ko rate, pretty sure it was around 20.

by properdave on Apr 11, 2011 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't remember seeing a ref let a fighter keep going after the fourth knockdown

since the neutral corner rule was implemented

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by Brickhaus on Apr 11, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Khoren Gevor's sucker punch of the referee...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYo3dHtfMlI&feature=player_embedded

Good thing he didn’t land clean, but I suspect he’ll be serving some time for this one.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 10, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

crazy. So he was DQ’d and then afterwards did that.

"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees

by lcollins1 on Apr 10, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow what an idiot

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Apr 10, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good grief!! Awful. Lose his license to box most everywhere for that, at the very least. Can you imagine trying to hire a ref for his future fights? “Oh by the way—our fighter’s name is Khoren Gevor. . . .”

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Apr 10, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

do we have

any idea what the deduction was for?

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Apr 10, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Intentional tackle

I didn’t see it, so I have no idea if that was a biased call.

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Apr 10, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Apr 10, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

cue Bob Arum and the state of Texas

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Apr 10, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a great weekend

Pretty good looking weekend coming up, too. I’m ready to start talking Berto-Ortiz, which I have a feeling will be very good.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 10, 2011 4:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Honestly I find the idea that Adamek has prepared for Vitali Klitschko by fighting worn out Michael Grant and even more worn out Kevin McBride to be folly; they are no more a tune-up for Vitali than fighting Anthony Small would be a tune-up for Floyd Mayweather.

Except for getting down the physics of fighting much bigger men, which is something PBF has never been willing to do. Really, there is no one around right now who would be a good prep for Vitali, and I think at least taking some fights against bigger men to adjust one’s angles, etc, isn’t such a bad idea.

Not that I think Adamek will win.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Apr 10, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Dimitrenko would have been a nice fight for Adamek to try. But then Dimitrenko has a pulse. Main Events has basically asked for $60 for two Adamek sparring sessions.

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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

And I meant that if Boxer Q were to have a fight set with Mayweather in the future, and he chose Anthony Small as a tune-up because Small is “slick,” it would be the equivalent to choosing McBride and Grant as tune-ups for Vitali.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 11, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just watched the Kirkland fight.

Wow, just wow. What the hell was wrong with him.

by Blacklegend on Apr 10, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

he can't box

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Apr 10, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

How he got this far is the question

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Apr 10, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got this far, maybe,

because we live in such a diluted age.

And an age where we don’t see fighters progress in front of our eyes.
And where fighters don’t fight as often anyway (though JK was on a pace post-prison)—

Although fighters have become overrated in every decade, I think we create “monsters” much faster now.
For example, I said on another post that while I thought Morales was too old and too small to last with Maidana, that Maidana’s power very well might being overrated (what is is his killer moniker based on?) and he was inconsistent with pressure. A win over Ortiz, who had proven very little and quit in the fight, and rocking Khan who very well may have chin issues all of a sudden = Maidana is a beast whose power and pressure are frightening. Wrong. Or at least—not proven.

by Don From Prov on Apr 11, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree on Maidana being oversold a bit

He is inconsistent with his power and pressure bbecause he’s a technical mess. And it was his ‘shocking’ defeat of over-hyped the next Golden Boy Victor Ortiz that elevated his stock.

With Ortiz heading south and Khan not yet proven, MM may very well be a figment of our collective desire to create new stars.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Apr 11, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Classic “punch the bully in the mouth” moment. They should show this fight as part of all of the anti-bullying programs that have become a big deal recently.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 10, 2011 5:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nice post-fight quote from Maidana

“It surprised me that [Morales] able to take those punches. He is very hard to knock out. To knock him out you have to hit him with something, a stick or a hammer.”

by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 10, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He’s proving quite succinct, eloquent, and accurate in his quotes lately.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Apr 11, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank You Eric Morales

Thank you " El Terrible" . Eric is as brave a fighter as I have ever seen in nearly 40 years of watching boxing. Just proves what I’ve been thinking for ages. The current new breed cant fight . I always thought Maidana was a glorified fringe contender , this proves it . It also makes Amir Khans win look less impressive. Khan has nice speed and can fight on the outside at range but he has no infighting ability whatsoever. His beard is still suspect for mine after watching Morales( an ex featherweight) take them for 12 rounds. Kirkland was another overhyped " puncher " who cant fight as was Lemieux. How the hell was Lemieux in a title eliminator when he’s never fought let alone beaten a legitimate contender ? He had never even been in a hard 10 or 12 round fight .We have a 40 year old man as the top heavyweight. Pacquiao and Mayweather are both past their absolute primes , Sergio Martinez is 36 years old . J M Marquez is 37 I think . I try not to be negative but in my opinion there is far less talent in the ranks of the sport than at any time since I’ve been following i. Rant over , cheers everyone .

by JC40 on Apr 10, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

But there is no shortage of pretenders willing to throw down.

That’s not much … but after this weekend of entertainment, it’s not bad.

I agree with most of what you’ve said otherwise, JC40.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Apr 10, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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