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Fight Preview: Juan Manuel Lopez v. Orlando Salido

Juan Manuel Lopez is a big favorite against Orlando Salido. But could this be an upset in the making? (Photo by Tom Casino/SHOWTIME)

As we've documented plenty, including noting the big betting odds against him, Orlando "Siri" Salido is not supposed to beat Juan Manuel Lopez tomorrow night in Puerto Rico.

Frankly speaking, nothing is in Salido's favor. Lopez (30-0, 27 KO) is three years younger at 27. He's fighting at home in Puerto Rico. The reach advantage for Salido (72" to 69") probably won't play into things, as Salido is hardly a great jab artiste. They're about the same height. Salido has been through a lot more rounds (303 to 127) as a professional, which I guess you could see as an advantage, but more likely it just equals more wear and tear.

Lopez's biggest advantage in this fight, and his biggest weapon overall, is his pure power. He's not fast. Far from it. Unlike constant comparison Yuriorkis Gamboa, Lopez's strength is plain and blunt. Gamboa's power comes from his speed, his beautiful combination punching. Lopez's power is just power, but to be fair, it's very good power. And when he does put punches together, he can be deadly.

The problem with Lopez, in my view, is that he seems to have actually lost a little bit in terms of technique. Compared to his rise at 122 pounds, up to his TKO-1 against Daniel Ponce de Leon that really put him on the map, he seems to have become at times overconfident. He believes in his own power to such a degree that he's sacrificed some of his boxing ability, and a lot of his defense. He was never going to be a defensive master, but he purposely leaves himself open now, it appears. In two of his three 2010 fights, we saw that. He was so open against Bernabe Concepcion that he had to pick himself up off the canvas before he finished off the Filipino, and against Rafael Marquez he went to war in a back-and-forth slugest that wasn't as easy as he could have made it, because he purposely made it a hard fight. In January, he was more laid back and precise, and decimated Steven Luevano.

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Of course, all that makes Lopez a lot of fun to watch. He's vulnerable. We've seen him floored by Concepcion and rocked all over the ring by Rogers Mtagwa, his fight previous to Luevano. After the Mtagwa and Luevano fights, my thought would be that he'd do himself a favor fighting more like he did against Luevano. Lopez has not done that.

Salido (34-11-2, 22 KO) is no world-beater. He's a legitimate contender, can punch a little, and hung in for 12 against Gamboa. He split a pair of fights with Cristobal Cruz and years ago he lost to Juan Manuel Marquez. He's a tough customer who can punch a little bit. While he's been stopped five times in his career, he hasn't lost inside the distance since 2000, so we're talking an 11-year streak Lopez will try to end.

I'm not picking the upset here, because I don't think Salido is quite the right guy to beat Lopez. But I will say this: Lopez better not be as overconfident as he has seemed at times, because Salido is a smarter, better fighter than Concepcion or Mtagwa. And if those guys can trouble Lopez even a little (and Mtagwa troubled him a lot), then Salido can trouble him plenty enough to score an upset. A weekend after plenty of surprises, this one has an outside chance at topping them all. But I'm still going with the favorite. Pick: Juan Manuel Lopez UD-12

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Photo by Tom Casino/SHOWTIME

In the co-feature, Luis Cruz (17-0, 14 KO) takes a big risk against late replacement opponent Martin Honorio (29-5-1, 15 KO). Cruz was set to take a big step up in class against Roman "Rocky" Martinez, but instead faces Honorio, in what is also a new test. I've seen Honorio plenty against a wide range of opponents, and overall he's left a mixed impression. He was good against John Molina in November 2009, taking Molina's "0," but I've also seen him waxed in one by a dialed-in Robert Guerrero. Sort of a middle ground fight for him was probably his 2005 decision loss to Steven Luevano, where he was competitive. Cruz has good power on paper, and a win for him here gives him decent standing at 130 pounds. I'll go with the home fighter, but I think this is a pick'em. Pick: Luis Cruz TKO-10

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I expect all 3 fav’s to win this weekend (Berto, Khan,Lopez), but if I was in Vegas this is the "dog" I would drop some change on; Salido is tough with a dig, and gave Gamboa one of his toughest fights……..Lopez better not sleep on him.

by DPlainview on Apr 15, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

If I were to go with an upset, I'd go with Ortiz

I do favor all of the favorites as well though. I just don’t think Salido is as gritty as his reputation. He’s plenty good, but he’s not going to drag Lopez into a brawl where he can hurt him. Salido is an underrated counterpuncher though, so maybe he catches Lopez with a hard counter that hurts him.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 15, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sort of hoping that the upset train is still chugging alone this week, at least for Ortiz(don’t ask me why I like him, I just do) but I don’t see Lopez losing. I’m not particularly high on him, as entertaining as he is, but he should eke out a win tonight, hopefully by late knockout in a fun scrap. I haven’t seen Honorio or Cruz fight before, so I’ll make up my mind on that one once it starts, if Cruz is any good I’ll pull for him.

by The Twillness on Apr 15, 2011 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I AM picking the upset...

but with caution.

I think Salido has everything necessary to beat JuanMa, who I think is a bit overrated in the skills department. As far as I can see Lopez does just about everything in an exchange, which is extremely dangerous for him because he’s not very good at hiding that chin of his. It’s the short counter right hook from range, or a quick exchange which he usually wins. That said, we’ve seen what happens when the other guy can take the heat…

Orlando Salido CAN take the heat. He’s about the biggest, strongest featherweight I have ever seen, he’s tough as nails and may actually be UNDER-rated in the skills department. I just watched his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez and I’m still wondering why the scores were so wide, because that fight was 12 rounds of both guys, boxing, setting up shots… and missing.

If you make JMM miss for 12 rounds, you are a quality fighter. In fact, he showed more wrinkles in that loss than Lopez has in his wins thus far.

In my opinion, this is a step up for the younger man. Yeah, he beat Rafael last time out, but there was an injury, so I’m not gonna pretend it was really a knock out or stoppage.

Many people will be a bit thrown off by Salido’s loss to Gamboa, but JML is a still target in comparision to the speedy Cuban, so I don’t see much to take from that contest.

One other thing to consider is that Salido is trained by the great pro, Daniel Zaragoza. As a fighter he was always in top shape and he seems to get the same kinda results with his fighters. This will also be his second chance at Lopez in as many fights. I’m sure they have him scouted.

The caution comes in because Salido is a massive 126 (likely to be at least 140 by fight time… likely more) so I don’t know if he made the weight safely. He did look very dry at the weigh-in today, but also like he had put in the hard work.

Obviously you also have to wonder if he’ll get a fair shake in Puerto Rico. I’m kinda scratching my head as to why Arum would make this fight. Does he know something we don’t, or did he just hear that Gamboa dominated (kinda) so he figured it was a safe fight for his up and coming money maker?

I guess it comes down to this is everything is fair: In my opinion, JuanMa isn’t as tough, and is probably easier to hit. He’s faster and hits harder, but I don’t consider those things to be as significant as the punches I think Salido is likely to land.

Looking forward to it.

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by Lee Payton on Apr 15, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Arum didn't make the fight

Brad Goodman is Top Rank’s matchmaker, and on pretty good information, I’ve heard that Goodman is the guy who’s been guiding Lopez’s and Gamboa’s careers. He’s also the guy who built up Cotto though. He knows what he’s doing.

Honestly, before Lopez-Mtagwa, Lopez-Gamboa probably would have happened. Problem is that Bob knows that Lopez is the guy who sells tickets, not Gamboa. I went to Lopez-Luevano/Gamboa-Mtagwa live, and there wasn’t an empty seat in the house hours before the main events even started, and all but a few hundred of them were Puerto Rican. Hell, Pawel Wolak probably drew more fans to that card than Gamboa. While Lopez might not be mainstream, he’s a live gate cash cow. As soon as Goodman told Arum that Gamboa would knock the snot out of Lopez, he started this game of three card monte with the two.

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by Brickhaus on Apr 15, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

Then I’m wondering why Brad Goodman made the fight. Salido is no showcase opponent. Maybe he’s thinking Lopez will look better beating him than Gamboa did…?

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by Lee Payton on Apr 15, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Top Rank knows that eventually the fight has to happen — in the meantime, they’ve created this constant comparison between the two. Whether it’s putting them against the same fighters (Mtagwa, Salido) or on the same card, they’re inviting the intrigue and the demand for the matchup. Arum said before he wanted to make it the biggest featherweight fight of all time. That’s unlikely, but he can surely make it a big money fight for the weight class (at 126 or 130, where it seems more likely) and if Lopez loses but everyone makes real big money, then that’s better than Lopez losing and making just good money.

That’s just my guess, of course.

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by Scott Christ on Apr 15, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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