Saturday Boxing Results: Ortiz and Salido Score Upsets, Khan Tops McCloskey
by Scott Christ on Apr 17, 2011 1:19 AM EDT
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Mashantucket, Connecticut (Full Recap)
- Victor Ortiz UD-12 Andre Berto: My gut said he had an outside shot, but I couldn't get my brain to buy it. For once I should have actually bet with my gut (in our pick'em game, not actual money). Ortiz and Berto both hit the canvas on two occasions, but it was the finally, truly vicious Victor who pressed, looked stronger, and physically dominated Berto, who never fully recovered from a hard knockdown in the first round, and fought tired for the majority of the bout. It's easily Ortiz's biggest career win, and the breakout performance he needed. A rematch would seem a great idea. I cannot say enough about how physically strong Ortiz looks as a welterweight.
- Deandre Latimore UD-8 Dennis Sharpe: Shockingly, Sharpe didn't win a single round. That bagel matches the amount of fights he's won in the last seven years.
- Thomas Dulorme KO-2 Harrison Cuello: Dulorme (11-0, 10 KO) scored a knockout so brutal, so nasty, that HBO showed a clip of it during the Berto-Ortiz main event. The press in attendance at the fight and on Twitter at the time reacted in emphatic and wild fashion. George Willis said that Lou DiBella told him, "It sounded like an explosion. It was scary."
- Other Results: Joseph Elegele KO-2 Angel Hernandez ... Luis Rosa TKO-5 Joseliz Cepeda ... J'Leon Love TKO-2 JC Peterson (I hope Love makes it, name alone) ...
Bayamon, Puerto Rico (Full Recap)
- Orlando Salido TKO-8 Juan Manuel Lopez: This has been one crazy ass month, and this just put the icing on the cake tonight. The last fight of the night was, in my opinion, arguably the best, as these two had a quieter, less explosive battle than Berto-Ortiz, but with constant action and hard shots raining down from Salido. Salido winning this fight is a testament to his toughness, and I don't just mean once the bell rings. You've gotta be a tough dude to get this far in a career that started the way his did. A rematch seems a good idea.
- Luis Cruz UD-10 Martin Honorio: Scores were wide twice for Cruz, but most were not so impressed as those two judges.
- Other Results: Jose A. Gonzalez TKO-3 Miguel Angel Munguia ... Carlos Negron TKO-4 Emerson Chasing Bear ... Jonathan Gonzalez TKO-1 Elvin Calderon (this is the Jonathan Gonzalez who made his pro debut on April 1 against Jonathan Gonzalez, but this is the Jonathan Gonzalez who beat Jonathan Gonzalez, who also debuted on April 1).
Manchester, England (Full Recap)
- Amir Khan TD-6 Paul McCloskey: Khan was sloppy, but too good for McCloskey as expected. The end came on a clash of heads in the sixth round opened a bad cut on McCloskey, with the doctor and referee stopping the fight. Khan had shutout scores of 60-54 across the board, but he fought in a nervy, lunging manner -- was it the 17,000+ in the MEN Arena getting to his nerves, a too-hard attempt to score a knockout, or a lack of respect for McCloskey? Maybe all. Khan has already rightly said he feels there's no need for a rematch.
- Rendall Munroe UD-12 Andrei Isaeu: Munroe's first fight under the Hatton Promotions banner wasn't his best performance, but he gets the win against a decent fighter. The bout was not one for the fan who enjoys clean, hard punching, as neither looked ready to bust a grape and neither much pressed the action, either.
- Lee Purdy TKO-5 Craig Watson: Purdy scores the upset stoppage win on a beautiful right hand that dropped Watson and left him on bad legs, leading to the referee calling off the fight. The win nets Purdy the British welterweight title, and gives the 23-year-old a big career boost. Watson had been mostly outclassing Purdy until then.
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I found it graifying and not at all surprising to see Berto beat up and defeated.
He has been one of the most overprotected and compensated HBO fighters for years. And arguably both a symptom and a cause for the dearth of fewer and potentially entertaining matches for numerous other fighters.
Too much money paid to a fighter too untested helps too few fighters get exposure, hurting both fighters and fans.
Berto is second tier. Still a fine fighter by not the one HBO has been selling us.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
He has been one of the most overprotected and compensated HBO fighters for years.
So has Victor Ortiz, though.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 17, 2011 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Berto
hadn’t fought anyone as dangerous as Marcos Maidana.Ortiz has the more respectable record,imo, and Berto was a belt holder too.
Meaning he had no reason to be protected (although he wouldn’t exactly be the first protected paper champ out there).
This is a good win for Ortiz but it’s not like he beat a legit champ or anything.
They were both unproven going in,Ortiz stock just went up quite a bit,Berto’s went down quite a bit,imo.
Ortiz only fought Maidana
because no one knew who the hell Maidana was at the time. That fight was supposed to be Ortiz’s coming out party, and turned into Maidana’s instead.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 17, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I disagree
Collazo was seen as a legitimate test when that fight was signed. Maidana was sign as some “Argentina guy” for Ortiz to showcase and beat. That Ortiz-Maidana fight was 100% Ortiz hype in the lead-up. 100%. Hell, 120%. Maidana was the afterthought opponent with a weird little head and bad tattoos.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Apr 17, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Compensated and over-hyped, yes. But not overprotected Scott.
He was put into hell with Maidana right away.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Maidana was not seen by Ortiz or Golden Boy as a legitimate threat. He was a pure showcase, hand-picked opponent that they were ill-informed on at GBP HQ yet again. That Maidana kicked his ass doesn’t prove they meant to match Ortiz tough, it proves they dicked up their matchmaking on a prospect for the millionth time. Then they put him in with three shot fighters and a bum before daring to give him any kind of test again (Peterson), and with Berto they made the fight because it was getting to be now or never. Last night Ortiz finally stepped up his game. Good for him.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 17, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ortiz had the eye of the tiger tonight! Really interested in seeing if he can fight with this determination and toughness consistently. Really looking forward to seeing him in rematches with Berto or maidana.
yes
Ortega’s too busy for some, but if they constantly clinch, he has to constantly be in the fight to do the job right.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
But his point deduction for hitting behind Berto's head was BS
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
yes
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Apr 17, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
quik question
who are those blackk guys(no offense) behind Andre Berto last night i see them very often behind alot of fighters i think their brothers idk i always wondered who they where ? thanks
Hmmm, Morales was too old and too small--
Ortiz had some dog in him—
And I never much cared to watch Berto’s fights.
Well here is one that still stands: Gus Johnson is the worst announcer in boxing. Screaming does not = competence.
Gus Johnson is the worst announcer in boxing.
There’s not even an argument for anyone else.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Apr 17, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Shame the bottle from PR that hit Bernstein last night
Didn’t hit Johnson
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
My PARTNER got HIT with a BOTTLE.
Juan Manuel Lopez. Married ONE YEAR. Getting DIVORCED.
NUTS AND GUTS.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 18, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Any insight into Arum's claims that Juanma was as high as 180 lbs between fights?
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
There’s been a lot of talk about his partying habits and (lack of) discipline. I can’t say for certain and I try not to swim in the rumor pond too often, but…my experience over the last five years of ‘covering’ boxing is that where there’s smoke, 99% of the time there’s fire.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 18, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
If that's true, then that's outrageous.
JuanMa must have literally been killing himself to get down to the weight. Totally irresponsible of him to end up at 180; moreover, he should know that THERE’S ONLY ONE RICKY HATTON and that all other fat boxers cutting down 50 lbs end up weak and drained.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Apr 18, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
isn't he like 5'6?
if he gets to 5’6, 180…that’s absurd.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Apr 18, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, something like that.
Considering he fought in November, and so presumably started camp for this fight in February, that means he put on 60 odd lbs in three months. That’s just ridiculous, and he deserves all the stick he’s going to get for it.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Apr 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He's 5'6" in high heels. Maybe
I’ve stood next to him and he is one little dude. Cotto made him look tiny and Miguel is 5’ 8" on a good day.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Miguel’s listed 5’7" and looks it for whatever that’s worth.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 19, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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