Dana White Speaks on Nick Diaz's Potential Boxing Career and UFC Future
by Scott Christ on Apr 28, 2011 11:21 PM EDT
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As many of you know, Strikeforce MMA star Nick Diaz is talking about a boxing career, either as a side career or as a new full-time job (probably the former if anything). Diaz has discussed a fight with washed-out Jeff Lacy, which has generated some very mild interest online among fans of one of the two sports (but not so much with fans of both, it seems).
UFC head Dana White, whose company recently purchased Strikeforce, spoke about the situation while he and his company gear up for the enormous UFC 129 show on Saturday in Toronto, an event that sold out the Rogers Centre (55,000 tickets).
From MMA Weekly:
There had been some confusion recently about the language in Diaz’s current deal with Strikeforce that would allow him to strap on the gloves and try his hand at boxing, but White says he absolutely has that clause in his contract.
Now, it’s a matter of figuring out the how, when, and where of the situation.
"It’s in his deal that he can do it, absolutely," White confirmed about Diaz being able to box while under contract to Strikeforce.
FightLine.com has this from White:
"I'll say the same thing I always say about Nick: he's a tough one to deal with," said White. "He doesn't play the game well. I think the kid has potential. Forget about fighting -– he has the potential to be a star. But for some reason he's an anti-star. I know for a fact that boxing isn't for him, because I've been in boxing for years. All of the boxers wish they were involved with us."
The last line is fairly hilarious, in the same way that someone might say, "All the hockey players wish they were playing football," and I do have my doubts that Manny Pacquiao wants to give back the $32 million he made last year to come in at Brock Lesnar's $5.3 mil, but hey, Dana says things. Nothing new on that score.
Honestly, do you have any interest in seeing a Nick Diaz-Jeff Lacy fight? Is this something that perks you up, something you'd go out of your watch to watch? I'll even offer three "yes" options, because I think reasons to want to see this could be all over the board.
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I am midly interested.
I would take Nick Diaz over Lacy, Mayorga and Vargas.
Afterall, we all wanted a Mixed Martial Artist to enter the squared-circle to fight against a Boxer. Nick Diaz is more than capable of doing that. Forget KJ Noons, Marcus Davis, Jens Pulver, Duane Ludwig(Kickboxer—close enough).
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Boxing TOP 5: Mayweather, Donaire, S. Martinez, JM Marquez, M. Cotto
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diaz is not at that level
forget what gilbert melendez says about diaz doing well against ward. it’s not the same. diaz is a better than average boxer. but lacy, mayorga, and vargas have fought the best in the world at their weight. nick diaz’s boxing looks good against mma level strikers, but it won’t work in boxing. his technical skill and his defense is sub-par and he has non-existent head movement. we’ve seen this in his fights with noons (even beating noons the second time, he still gets caught a lot). he just throws a lot of punches, but he’s no paul williams, and it will be exposed. i like and admire diaz, the guy runs the triathlon, for chrissakes, but i cannot see him beating a prime condition lacy, mayorga, or vargas.
You cannot walk if you fear to crush the ant in your wake.
Well Lacy (who just lost to Dhafir Smith, and badly), Mayorga (who is old) and Vargas (who is old, retired, and fat) are not in prime condition by any means. Actually to be fair to Feroz, last time I saw him he looked like he’d lost a lot of weight. But he’s still old and retired and I really don’t want to see him fight again. The other “last time” thing about him is the last time I heard him talk, it didn’t sound so great.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 29, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
diaz could win against them if they weren't 100%
but a 100% lacy, mayorga, vargas would beat a 100% diaz. any day.
You cannot walk if you fear to crush the ant in your wake.
Yeah but none of them are 100% anymore or particularly close to it. Are you just saying 100% of what they currently are, or 100% compared to their prime?
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by Scott Christ on Apr 29, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
also I just want to be clear here
I’m not breaking balls.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 29, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
but i cannot see him beating a prime condition lacy, mayorga, or vargas.
Good for Diaz that none of them are anywhere near prime condition then.
Vargas is shot and Mayorga and Lacy aren’t far from it.
And Lacy was never all that good when he was in peak form.One of the most one dimensional fighters in recent memory,imo.
to me
diaz beating an out of shape mayorga/lacy/vargas would mean nothing. it would say a lot about the sorry state of those fighters, a shell of what they once were, but I wouldn’t take it as any testament to diaz’s boxing ability. if diaz called out martinez, or hell, even dzinziruk, and beat them, then i’d eat humble pie – probably a whole case of it.
You cannot walk if you fear to crush the ant in your wake.
sorry, i left my stupid cap on, i will be eating humble pie now.
for some reason i had been under the illusion diaz and martinez were in the same weight class. ignore the last sentence.
You cannot walk if you fear to crush the ant in your wake.
diaz beating an out of shape mayorga/lacy/vargas would mean nothing.
It’s true…I voted for “yes,i think it would be interesting” but really when i think more about it,they should just leave boxing to boxers and MMA to MMAers.
There’s no way to ever have a fair fight because in all likelyhood the peak form boxer beats the peak form MMA fighter in a boxing ring and the peak MMA fighter beats then peak boxer in an MMA cage.
“I’ll say the same thing I always say about Nick: he’s a tough one to deal with,” said White. “He doesn’t play the game well. I think the kid has potential. Forget about fighting -– he has the potential to be a star. But for some reason he’s an anti-star. I know for a fact that boxing isn’t for him, because I’ve been in boxing for years. All of the boxers wish they were involved with us.”
The last line is fairly hilarious, in the same way that someone might say, “All the hockey players wish they were playing football,” and I do have my doubts that Manny Pacquiao wants to give back the $32 million he made last year to come in at Brock Lesnar’s $5.3 mil, but hey, Dana says things. Nothing new on that score.
You may have seen this,Scott.I don’t know how accurate the figures are but the poster certainly seems to have done his homework:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/4/27/2138056/again-with-the-boxing-vs-mma-pay-comparison
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"I’ll say the same thing I always say about Nick: he’s a tough one to deal with," said White. "He doesn’t play the game well. I think the kid has potential. Forget about fighting -– he has the potential to be a star. But for some reason he’s an anti-star. I know for a fact that boxing isn’t for him, because I’ve been in boxing for years. All of the boxers wish they were involved with us."
The last line is fairly hilarious, in the same way that someone might say, "All the hockey players wish they were playing football," and I do have my doubts that Manny Pacquiao wants to give back the $32 million he made last year to come in at Brock Lesnar’s $5.3 mil, but hey, Dana says things. Nothing new on that score
You may have seen this,Scott.I don’t know how accurate the figures are but the poster certainly seems to have done his homework:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/4/27/2138056/again-with-the-boxing-vs-mma-pay-comparison
I honestly have no idea who Nick Diaz is, so I guess I have to go with no. I also think no is the right answer because all of the yes options will likely result in a lot of the same stupid crap that repeats itself every time boxing and MMA cross fists.
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that's exactly why I voted no
It’s honestly nothing to do with Diaz. If he came to boxing, sure I’d be at least curious. It’s the Lacy part that drags it down for me. It’s actually a more than reasonable jump into boxing, but I feel no desire to see it.
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by Scott Christ on Apr 29, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
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