Gus Johnson Says Manny Pacquiao Would "Get Killed" in MMA
by Scott Christ on May 13, 2011 2:20 PM EDT
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Noted boxing and mixed martial arts expert Gus Johnson was a guest on Dan Patrick's radio show, and offered his opinion on Manny Pacquiao fighting in mixed martial arts. From MMA Fighting:
In a radio interview with Dan Patrick, Johnson was asked how Pacquiao would do in an MMA fight against an MMA fighter, and Johnson said it's ridiculous to even think Pacquiao could last.
"He'd get killed," Johnson said of Pacquiao in the cage. "No question. Tapped out, easily. In a minute."
Now first things first, I haven't heard the show, but I'm guessing he was asked specifically if he thought Pacquiao, the world's top active boxer, would do well were he to transition to mixed martial arts. I find this question fundamentally irrelevant and useless, and to be fair I think it seems like Gus Johnson's response is sort of along those lines, and fair enough. Pacquiao would still be able to punch guys and all that, but there's simply a lot more to MMA than boxing, no matter which sport you prefer or whether or not you hate one of them.
Here are some similar questions I'd like to pose to sportscasters if I ever interview one:
- "We all know Albert Pujols can hit a home run in baseball. But how would he do in cricket?"
- "Just how good of a competitive figure skater would Jonathan Toews really be?"
- "Jamaal Charles. Rugby. Your thoughts."
Anyway, for the record, in my personal opinion, yes -- if Manny Pacquiao fought a high-level mixed martial artist, he'd get tapped out in about a minute, particularly because I'm sure nobody is going to screw around waiting for him to start throwing punches.
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Noted boxing and mixed martial arts expert Gus Johnson
Expert???
by Matt Mosley on May 13, 2011 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on May 13, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Gus and Sarah would have plenty in common i reckon.
Especially being incredibly bad at their chosen fields.
At least Palin’s easy on the eye though. :)
Sure.
If you’re a middle-aged, white evangelical bigot from the South, she’s quite the dish.
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by Pops Daniels on May 13, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
Just taking a cheap shot at my enemies.
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by Pops Daniels on May 13, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially when she was younger.
I don’t care what her beliefs are, you telling me you wouldn’t hit this:
Piece of shit won’t copy my image.
I’ll try once more:
http://dustythoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/sarah_palin_5.jpg
That’s not the one i wanted to post though
This one,if it works, shows how sweet she was in her youth:
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/sarah-palin-photo/
The point is
that her American support is a far cry from anything resembling credible.
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by Pops Daniels on May 14, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
that's fake, y'know
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by Scott Christ on May 13, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The first one?…Yeah i know.
I was trying to get the older one up, the one that i posted second, so i just posted that instead.
Honestly, and I do think she’s pretty and all, I can find hot moms anywhere in my neighborhood that stack up to Sarah Palin. Not that I’m that interested in a long MILF discussion here, but I think a lot of her attractiveness comes entirely from the fact she’s famous. Otherwise I just don’t get it.
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by Scott Christ on May 13, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I can find hot moms anywhere in my neighborhood that stack up to Sarah Palin.
By the sounds of it you live in a nicer neighbourhood than i do. :)
Perhaps in hot mom population. I don’t think I’d want to talk to most of them though. They probably like Eric Clapton. Ugh.
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by Scott Christ on May 13, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s like 9 people in Alaska.
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by Scott Christ on May 13, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Even harder for being an idiot
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Ray Mercer
layed Tim Sylvia out cold in a cage though.
Admittedly as soon as anyone with even a bit of wrestling and/or BJJ skills got him on the ground it’s over but if they stood with him,even for a bit, he could KO them no problem,imo.
It depends a on what level of fighter you put him in with.
Jose Aldo?…Pac’s gonna get taken down and stopped or leg kicked to a standstill but someone not as highly ranked?
Then,it’s not as easy to predict,imo.
All irrelevant though, really…Just stick to what you know.
why can’t Gus Johnson just leave us alone
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by MaZZacare on May 13, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
How come they never ask how would MMA fighter A, would do against boxer A on a boxing ring?
Like you mentioned Scott, this line of questioning is idiotic, as the athlete from the sport under the rules you play/compete/fight in will always have an edge over the athlete doing the transition, and this would apply to all professions.
Bit different to Pac and MMA but
this is another case of apples and oranges:
I remember a few years ago an Olympic level sprinter from the UK, Dwain Chambers, tested positive for nandrolone…I think he was part of Victor Conte’s infamous list of clients at Balco.
Anyway, he got banned for 2 years or so but when he tried to make a comeback, he wasn’t well received and decided to try playing rugby league as a career alternative.
He signed with Castleford, a team not far from where i live, but he got hammered in the first few tackles and you could see he just wasn’t made for rugby.
This is a guy who was about 210lbs of muscle and ran the 100 metres in under 10 secs regularly.
But he didn’t know how to play the game.
by Matt Mosley on May 13, 2011 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
sprinters get killed in rugby
I’ve seen many fast mofos give up because they can’t handle the hits. football players would get ground up too. You have to be a tad crazy to play
it bothers me that some football players wear earrings during a game
seriously? iced out while playing a “CONTACT” sport?
Oh,
you mean NFL players?…They would have more of a chance adapting to rugby than vice versa,imo, with all the technical stuff in US football.
I was talking about soccer, our football….The girl’s game. :)….Joke, footy fans.
I’m from the UK and a fan of both rugby league and the NFL and, imo, rugby requires much more endurance and stamina because they have to do it non-stop for 80 minutes.
But the NFL guys hit harder, imo and are generally bigger and stronger.
Best rugby league to watch is the the State of Origin series between New South Wlaes and Queensland in Australia.
It starts this month.
Anyone could watch that who had never seen rugby being played before and they would enjoy it, im sure.
The skill level,athleticism and toughness is top notch.
rugby union is probably just as tough as league though.
It’s just that i’m from the north of England and we were brought up on league…Union is a southern game,
aside from the number of players, how much different is league?
It’s tough to find league games to watch up here in Canada, it’s hard enough to find Union games so I haven’t really seen a full league match. what are the major differences?
League only allows 6 tackles..Then you either have to kick down field or turn the ball over to the other side.
After each tackle you have to play the ball through your legs, so there isn’t really a ruck like there is in Union.
This will explain it in more detail than i can:
awesome. thanks alot.
I’ve only seen highlights and of course they usually show the tries so it looks like a normal Union game lol
Your welcome
Like i mentioned before the Australian stuff is really the highest level in the world…Really top notch…Like the All Blacks are in Union.
Look out for the NRL (National Rugby League) and the aforementinoed State of Origin best of 3 series,which is an annual tradition.
We also have the Super League over here in the UK which is of a good standard, but is 2nd rate to the Aussies.
I really wish I could see more League
League is non-existent up here and Setanta only seems to show Union games. wish we had more options to watch it, maybe on Satellite only. I love watching Aussie Rules too
don't know where to stream :(
I struggle with myp2p.eu but that’s the only one I know about
Thats one i know of but we are not supposed to mention them by name on here.
People seem to refer to them as “Dan Tucker”. :)
Here’s a link to the NRL site where you can use the legal stream (but i think it costs):
cool thanks
I don’t mind paying for high quality streams. only option we have here is Setanta and they show more footy games it feels like a waste LOL
I play rugby in Canada, we have decent programs up here
NFL players can hit hard because there are so many breaks and they play half a game, not to mention cough cough juice? that’s why they’re behemoths. I’ve seen musclebound dudes get hammered in rugby. ruggers are fearless and they don’t give a crap how big you are, they will drop you on your ass.
rugby players are durable and some of the toughest human beings I’ve ever come
across in my life. some of the 55 year old oldboys players can outruck alot of young lads, which is a testament of the toughness of rugby throughout the years.
I started out a football player but the fact that the QB and receivers get all the glory is a bit annoying. Rugby is a true team sport
Yeah
i know there’s a lot of juicers in the NFL but it happens in rugby too (probably to a lesser extent), with players being caught for steroids and HGH roughly 2-3 times a year.
It was worse in the late '90's
when all the players suddenly blew up like ballons.
It’s seemingly not as bad now, with the level of testing.
didn't think you could test for HGH?
and NFL players sure make enough money to be able to afford it. I’m not sure how many people juice up in rugby, Samoans and Kiwis are naturally huge lol.
I think if the levels are ridiculously high they can judge that it wouldn’t occur naturally but i might have got mixed up with some steroid name.
Yeah,a lot of that could be just hearsay and most of them do just look naturally big but i’m sure it goes on to some extent in most sports.
A fe guys have tested positive for steroids over here and in Oz though.
One guy hung himself the other month while serving a ban.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11414736
That story in the link says he did test positve for HGH.
This baseball to cricket comparison is perfect
I really don’t know why gus johnson is commenting on this on a tv show. Why is it they never comment on how an MMA fighter would do in a boxing ring?
It’s fair enough if a boxer says they could tranition to MMA easily like James Toney said but Manny hasn’t asked for this, he is just doing his job in a boxing ring.
This should be taken as Gus johnson trying to grab headlines by making these sorts of statements, it’s such a stupid comment to make that im glad i live in the uk and don’t have to listen to his stupid opinions on tv.
it's radio
Just to clarify.
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by Scott Christ on May 13, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like i've embaressed myself again lol
My point still stands though i guess
Do you mean if they right now in the middle of their careers decided to switch, or if they had chosen a different sport then they were fifteen?
I mean on rise/middle of their 1st career. Assume some familiarity with new sport too rather than just raw athleticism (like they did/played both at some point).
I guess if you are a good athlete in one sport, technically you can be good at another one assuming you have enough time to hone your skills at both, but chances are at the moment of the switch you won’t be as succesful immediatly after the transition (which would be the case in all this hyotheticals of how would X boxer do if he fought at MMA).
I think a good example of this is professional drivers. Drivers that become champions at say NASACAR or IRL and have then gone to F1 have typically struggled at least early on. The same happens the other way around (going from F1 to NASCAR or IRL). Eventhough it’s still driving, the differences and the skills needed to handle the different types of cars are enough to give trouble event to the best of drivers when switching from one series to another one (at least initially). Most never replicate the success in one series once they switch, although there are some exceptions (Juan Pablo Montoya, Mario Andretti).
Clara Hughes won olympic medals at both the summer (cycling) and winter olympics (speed skating). She started in both sports at the same time, then focused on cycling for about a decade, then switched back to skating after that.
Bernard Hopkins in NASCAR?
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by Pops Daniels on May 13, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Basketball players in track, especially field event like discuss and Jav throw.
"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry
Yeah, and how would Urijah Faber do in a boxing match against Pacquiao?
The question is dumb to begin with, but the response is even dumber. Considering he actually calls big fights now, I wish Gus would at least bone up on the sport.
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to learn about MMA
by Rucker on May 13, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
probably
For the record, I don’t think Gus is stupid here. I think the question is stupid. But then I wouldn’t be shocked if Dan Patrick hasn’t watched a fight of any kind in 15 years.
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by Scott Christ on May 13, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
MMA IS WHERE REAL FIGHTERS REALLY FIGHT IN REAL FIGHTING!
…I don’t know what that means.
But I do know that Gus Johnson is a tool
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 13, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
Sometimes these tools happen in MMA.
Most people don't know shit about boxing. At all. Period. - Roger Mayweather
by The Kittitas Kid on May 13, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Gus Johnson wouldn't last for even one story
on 60 Minutes….just tap out and scurry back to sports.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
I should say...
scurry back to the fouth tier AFC game….say Bengals vs. Browns.
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by Pops Daniels on May 13, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Gus is a fun football & March Madness announcer, but he really ought to stick to those sports and leave boxing alone. He knows nothing about it, and it shows. Painfully so, sometimes.
by The Boxer Rebellion on May 13, 2011 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
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