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Video: Pacquiao vs Marquez and Mayweather Discussed on ESPN First Take

It's sometimes useful to hear the opinions of those who don't follow boxing all that closely. I mean, I have no doubt that Skip Bayless pays a little attention to, you know, Pacquiao and Mayweather, but I don't think he gets the significance of anything else they do, or hears about ALL of the other stuff going on. So when Skip says, "I think Mayweather's afraid of Pacquiao," I think that means something because it's probably far closer to the reality of mainstream America's view of the fight than, you know, what you might read here, where every little detail is covered and we've gone over every single thing.

I also don't think that Bayless' assumption that Mayweather watched Pacquiao's lackluster win over Mosley and got more scared than ever is even remotely correct. Maybe Bayless didn't see that as the fight where Pacquiao showed some decline from previous performances, but it seems like many diehard fans saw it exactly that way. In fact, many felt after that it might have been the perfect fight for Mayweather to finally sign to fight Pacquiao, as Pacquiao had shown some vulnerability and weakness.

Fabolous says that he doesn't want to see Mayweather fight anybody but Pacquiao, and something has to be done. Jalen Rose doesn't think the fight will happen, and of the three I think he might be the biggest boxing fan. Then we get the phrase, "The pay-per-view ticket number." And then I realize, hey, I'm watching four guys who barely understand their topic of discussion.

And that's when I realize, hey, this really isn't all that useful to me at all.

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I, literally, just watched this a few minutes ago and went through almost exactly the same thought process as you.

Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.

by Apprentice on May 18, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I love how at the end they say “even casual fight fans want to see this one” as if he really thinks they are hardcore fans of boxing. One of them also says floyd has took 2 fights in 5 years without even a hint of hyperbole. I mean c’mon!

by Xray89 on May 18, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

"[Pacquiao] needs 12 months to recover"

From what? Not getting punched?

"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi

by Waldo Rastel on May 18, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buboy throws a stiff right handed massage

Tiago Splitter > Matt Bonner

by Manuwar on May 18, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol..

I though Jalen was going to say something along the lines of, “mayweather hasn’t fought in a year, so maybe a tuneup fight and then Pacquiao” which would have fit a bit better into his 12 months thing then saying Pacquiao needs a year off.

by erod on May 19, 2011 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just watching PTI

The statement was made that “Pacquiao has signed to fight a young man named Juan Manuel Marquez”, and they sounded as if they had no idea who this Marquez guy is, how “young” he isn’t, and how significant this fight is over just about any other option Pac had available. Which is a bit surprising, since I always thought Wilbon seemed to know more about boxing than most other ESPN pundits.

by rodger3 on May 18, 2011 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

wilbon is an idoit when it comes to combat sports

he called mayweather a coward, when may has more than 40 fights and wilbon has “0”, i really dont like either one of the PTI guys, they sit behind a desk and talk crap about everyone, espn is one of the worst places to get an insight about boxing or mma, unless its dan, teddy, or brian; or the mma live guys.

by antone04 on May 18, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind...

Skip Bayless doesn’t have a good grasp of issues in sports he does follow.

by Sentimental on May 18, 2011 6:36 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

They obviously don’t know boxing, but at least the fight is getting some well-deserved publicity.

Pacquiao/Marquez III = FIGHT OF THE YEAR 2011

by steak_knife on May 18, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Wilbon can't have an opinion because he hasn't fought?

Mayweather did a masterful job of spinning things (showing his alleged fight shorts being ready to go) but the truth is that he won’t fight Pacquiao, ergo, behaving cowardly.

by Sean Mills on May 18, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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