Boxing Breakfast: Bernard Hopkins and George Groves Hangover Edition
by Scott Christ on May 22, 2011 5:00 AM EDT
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Yesterday's Results and Recaps
- Bernard Hopkins did everything better than Jean Pascal and won the legitimate light heavyweight championship of the world for a second time. At 46, he's the oldest man to ever win any major title -- legit or not -- in boxing history.
- Chad Dawson was not so new or improved, but he outpointed Adrian Diaconu in the HBO co-feature. Most likely, Hopkins and Dawson will face off next. And I agree with Emanuel Steward that they should do it in Montreal. It's not like they could draw anywhere else.
- It wasn't exciting, but it was tense, and George Groves improved to 2-0 lifetime against James DeGale by very close majority decision. The amount of internet buzz around that card yesterday was a huge surprise to me.
- On the DeGale vs Groves undercard: Nathan Cleverly got Aleksy Kuziemski out in four due to cuts, Frankie Gavin stunk out the joint in a 12-round win over Young Mutley, and Billy Joe Saunders tore up Kevin Hammond with body shots in the second round.
- In what was a sad start to a full day of boxing coverage, Denis Lebedev knocked out Roy Jones Jr in the tenth round. Here's video if you haven't seen it. It was a truly scary moment, and I just cannot say enough how badly Jones needs to get out of the ring. Also on the Moscow card: Ismayl Sillakh TKO-3 Hamza Wandera, Nate Campbell UD-8 Sherzod Nazarov, Yaundale Evans TKO-5 Ruslan Berchuk, Alexander Bakhtin UD-10 Jose Angel Beranza.
- Also last night: Tomas Rojas RTD-11 Juan Jose Montes, Alfonso Gomez TKO-2 Calvin Green, Kashif Mumtaz TKO-1 Les Sherrington (ankle injury), Juan Alberto "Topo" Rosas KO-6 John Alberto Molina, Oscar Ibarra TKO-7 Juanito Rubillar, Juan Palacios UD-12 Sammy Gutierrez, Jose "Piston" Lopez UD-10 Jorge Paez Jr, Michael Farenas MD-8 Daniel Attah.
Here's a question: For those who saw both fights, what was the worst fight of this weekend? Was it the Friday Night Fights dud between Joel Julio and Anges Adjaho, or the Frankie Gavin vs Young Mutley turd?
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Just watching the fight now on Sky. Bernard is just all sorts of awesome, and Jean just… isn’t.
On an equally important note, I would like to categorically state that not all Londoners sound like Ian John-Lewis. I’m from London, and hearing him and watching him ref this just atrociously is an embarrassment. “BWEAK UP PASCOLL, OI WHEN I SAY BWEAK! LET ’IM GO!”
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on May 22, 2011 6:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
John-Lewis
He failed to call at least one geniune knockdown too and i s proving himself to be somewhat inept lately.
He was awful. He made the grappling worse by basically becoming one of the wrestlers in there. There were times when Hopkins was working inside, and John-Lewis just popped his head in there and started screaming his mouth off. Useless.
Watching ‘Bad’ Chad now – jesus he’s dull.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on May 22, 2011 7:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
he’s definitely “bad”, but not in the way he thinks.
I’ve never liked him as a fighter. Way too boring and lacking killer instinct.
Hopkins will school him, imo.
BTW, good call about Groves.
He did well.
He’s just so passive, and he’s not even that great defensively. Diaconu caught him with the straight right so many times, Bernard will have a field day.
And cheers about Groves – got to get it right once in a while! Gutted I didn’t end up going with him on the pick ‘em, but oh well. Hopefully they’ll leave the rematch on the boil and meet a few years down the line in a world title bout. Considering the interest the two managed to get this weekend, that’s conceivably a fight that could be put in Wembley, which would be brilliant.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on May 22, 2011 8:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dawson is a talented, long armed southpaw who has all the punches in his arsenal.
Lack of "fire", not talent, has been his big issue. I’m thinking he’ll be highly motivated when facing Popkins, and take a 115-113/116-112 type of decision with Popkins claiming he was robbed.
He's also easily
intimidated, imo, and not that smart: BHop will have won that fight going away before they ever enter the ring, for one thing, and is not a talentless, short-armed punchless incompetent for another.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
and is not a talentless, short-armed punchless incompetent for another.
Go BoxAnne! :)
by Matt Mosley on May 22, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I really can’t stand Chad Dawson. Paid actual money and went to Hartford to be bored stiff by him when he robbed Glen Johnson in that fight. Boxing Buddy Jim and me both think he’s a waste of time.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
I’m certainly no fan either.
All his fights against top opposition go to decision and even though the same could be said of Andre Ward, at least Ward has got that hunger, is multi dimensional and will fight hard.
Although he is technically good, Dawson is just one paced and predictable most of the time, imo.
by Matt Mosley on May 22, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Ward might not win by knockout, but he comes to fight. That guy is a bully in the ring. Chad Dawson’s just kinda, er, there.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on May 22, 2011 11:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you implying Diaconu is talentless/incompetent? He’s a world class, top 10, Lt Heavy who, prior to last night, had only lost to Pascal. BH wouldn’t have beaten Diaconu any more decisively than Dawson did last night.
It’s a gut feeling, but I think stylistically, a motivated Dawson takes a decision.
BH wouldn’t have beaten Diaconu any more decisively than Dawson did last night.
You say this after Bernard Hopkins decisively beats a guy who Dawson couldn’t beat. Oh, and that guy – who Dawson couldn’t beat – had decisively beaten Diaconu twice before, and more decisively than good ol’ Chad.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on May 22, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad Bernard made history
But not so glad about my Pick em picks.
Hopkins thoroughly beat Pascal in an admittedly pretty horrible fight and the scorecards were ridiculously close.
Pascal was terrible, looked tired, lazy and has proved himself again to be really crude.
My opinion of him went down last night, and it wasn’t all that high before.
Congratulations to Bernard Hopkins.
Norm MacDonald's tweet
“I’d like to parlay Hopkins getting knocked out with the existence of God.”: Pascal’s latest wager.
Genius
As much as I try to resist liking him....
Bernard is a complete freak of nature, he is truly a one off and he’s winning me over. Perhaps when he’s fifty in “four or five years” :-) I’ll be a big fan.
Suppose I should enjoy him while he’s around.
Bell Center audience is the best I’ve ever seen. They know and understand how to react on the fights.
Why dont we ever see the headline "Psychic
wins lottery" in the newspapers?
When they realized that history was about to happen
And started to cheer for bhop was an amazing moment. i ALMOST feel more honored or whatever to witness bhop’s career than pacman’s at this point. Forty-fuckin-six years old, holy crap
I hate the Texans
by battle axe of doom on May 22, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
I’m starting to think he could be at least level, if not overtaking Pac on acheivements now.
Mainly because he doing what he’s doing at that age.
by Matt Mosley on May 22, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard they just went into production for a sequel to the sequel for Cocoon
Bernard is being cast as the newest and youngest resident of the condominium complex, replacing thlong since dead Alan Ameche. The producers have been warned that the tattoo Bernard wore on his back advertising the online casino the night he bet 100,000 on himself against Tito was off limits because of copyright issues.
The guy is truly incredible. It is one of the most unique moments not just in boxing but probably any sport. A forty-six year old man, competing in a individual sport made up of young incredibly tough and skilled athletes, beating a young champion….and doing it in his own backyard. I can’t think of another example of anything like it.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
BHop-Dawson is guaranteed to be a snoozer….GUARANTEED.
and who is this guy DeGale? Even my daughter, who lives in London and who could not care less about boxing, watched the fight. She (AND her sister AND her mother) do think Max Kellerman is cute, so there is not much more that I can say.
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
and who is this guy DeGale?
You are probably joking but just in case you don’t know,DeGale won gold at middleweight at the 2008 Olympics.
That’s why he gets the attention.
by Matt Mosley on May 22, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s a question: For those who saw both fights, what was the worst fight of this weekend? Was it the Friday Night Fights dud between Joel Julio and Anges Adjaho, or the Frankie Gavin vs Young Mutley turd?
I didn’t see the first one. But if it was worse than Gavin’s fight, it must have been a stinker!
Song of the day… It could only have been that
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