Congressman Manny Pacquiao Stirs Emotion With Opposition of Birth Control
Manny Pacquiao is probably the world's most beloved fighter, covering all combat sports. When he fights, a nation all but shuts down to watch him ply his trade. In the Philippines, he is beyond anything we can imagine as a sports celebrity in the United States. Here, we have many sporting stars, in many major, constantly televised sports. In the Philippines, Pacquiao is far above all.
But his "day job" as a Congressman has stirred up some serious emotion. Pacquiao has sided with the church against a government bill designed to educate the population about safe sex, and provide contraception for the poor.
"God said go forth and multiply," he said, after a meeting with the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines. "He did not say go and have just one or two children."
The boxer said that he would never have been born to become the world's best pound-for-pound fighter had his parents used birth control.
Pacquiao's stance on the reproductive health (RH) bill has come under fire since his wife Jinkee has used birth control in the past.
Asked by reporters to confirm if his wife indeed turned to contraceptives to control the size of their family, Pacquiao said, "Noon iyon. Pero ngayon hindi na [That was in the past, but now she no longer does that]."
In the long run, I would expect Pacquiao finds the world of politics to be even more brutal and tough to handle than he does his boxing career. This is a situation where he's moving from being an entertainer and a beloved celebrity into having an impact on peoples' every day lives. That's not easy.
Conrado de Quiros of the Philippine National Inquirer weighs in, and it's a glimpse of what Pacquiao's political life could look like:
You look at Pacquiao, you’ll see Rocky and hear "Eye of the Tiger." You look at pretty much everybody else and you’ll hear only Simon and Garfunkel’s "The Boxer," particularly the part that says: "In the clearing stands a boxer, and a fighter by his trade/ And he carries the reminders/ Of every glove that laid him down or cut him/ ’Till he cried out in his anger and his shame/ I am leaving, I am leaving, but the fighter still remains."
... What the right hand giveth, the left hand taketh away. You can vow all you want to fight poverty, but you fight an effort to give parents a crack at having only as many kids as they can give a life or future to, you won’t beat poverty, you’ll just beat up the poor. Or you’re just going to rearrange their faces into that of Cotto and Margarito. That’s not great. That sucks.
This is what it's going to be like for Congressman Manny Pacquiao, who is being treated as Congressman Manny Pacquiao, not the legendary boxer Manny Pacquiao. Politicians just aren't as easy to love as boxers, and reproductive health bills won't be discouraged quite so easily as Shane Mosley.
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by Scott Christ on May 22, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Backlash to one of his political stances
was bound to happen. It’s a polarizing forum. No one gets out unscathed.
Oh, and his position on this topic is absurd and irresponsible.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on May 22, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It was bound to happen
But this is particularly damning, given his apparently strong (but now exposed to be hollow) stance on poverty.
The end quote says all. You’d have about as much luck fighting poverty without birth control as you would without food.
by El Destruyo on May 22, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i find his "political stance" odious
but i’m guessing he hasn’t put a lot of thought into it… it doesn’t affect how i think about him as a fighter, but it sure gives the impression he’s mailing it in politically, making knee jerk statements without giving issues serious thought
I dont think Manny cares one way or another
He’s just playing the politics game to say whats (or what he thinks will be) popular.
Poor decision.
That’d be the one thing I wouldn’t say here, actually. Manny’s religious beliefs and desire to fight poverty both since quite sincere to me. They’re also working in a thoroughly antithetical fashion.
by El Destruyo on May 22, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t want to drag this into a debate, but there are plenty of religious people who are progressive and practical on things like birth control.
The fact that Manny’s “beliefs” fall within the spectrum of impractical, hypocritical (his wife on birth control) and siding with popular religious authority instead of standing up to it is what makes me cynical.
by cyke on May 22, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
His world is different than here. If it were happening here, I’d agree with you. It’s happening in what I understand to be a highly religious country, where beliefs/standards are nothing like here. We can’t judge his motives from here, imo.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
by BoxAnne on May 22, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because of all the tr......
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on May 22, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, I changed my mind. New rule for this thread: You can talk about Manny’s future in politics, but I don’t want to have the religion debate. Nothing bores me more.
Nobody’s in “trouble” or anything — I gave an inch, some took a yard, that’s on me. Ah well. Power to delete.
Still, fairly impressed with everyone’s ability to not get shitty about it. So kudos.
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Aww man, it was the first time one of my comments was green =(
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
by Apprentice on May 22, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 15 recs
everyone rec this for Apprentice
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by Scott Christ on May 22, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
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by Scott Christ on May 22, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If many people rec it, does it turn another colour? Maybe Gold?
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
Yes boxing, now i remember why i am on this site lol. Do you think he will be even slighty respectful when he comes back? I think underneath all the brash talk he is probably a relatively nice guy
Yeah, probably. People who know him say Anthony Mundine is the nicest guy you’d ever want to meet.
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by Scott Christ on May 22, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
just to give a sense of why Manny is taking this stance, the Catholic church is threatening the President and anybody else for the rh bill with excommunication. For a devout Catholic like Manny that’s unthinkable.
by erasedcitizen on May 22, 2011 7:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You look at Pacquiao, you’ll see Rocky and hear “Eye of the Tiger.” You look at pretty much everybody else and you’ll hear only Simon and Garfunkel’s “The Boxer,” particularly the part that says: “In the clearing stands a boxer, and a fighter by his trade/ And he carries the reminders/ Of every glove that laid him down or cut him/ ’Till he cried out in his anger and his shame/ I am leaving, I am leaving, but the fighter still remains.”
“The Boxer”….One of my favourite songs.
mine too
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by Scott Christ on May 22, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Me neither. The main thing to remember is that, like any country’s, it’s likely totally different from anyone else’s politics, and that others from outside it probably can’t understand it.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
by BoxAnne on May 22, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right that’s what I wanted to express, and maybe failed at. I’m not trying to judge him. My only purpose in talking about this was, you know, look — politics isn’t boxing. Manny’s a boxer first, no matter how he tries to spin it. And his political position isn’t so easy to love for everyone.
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by Scott Christ on May 22, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure it will hurt him the way some people here seem to think. From my understanding of the Philippines, there is a big constituency there that agrees with him on the issue. That’s democracy: different issues are popular to different groups of people, and they all (ideally) get a voice in the debate through representatives.
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alright
Basically gave it a day. Disagreements of intensity aside, fairly nice social experiment. And now thread closed. Fun for everyone! Except me. A cliffhanger.
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