Open Thread: Price vs Dallas, Trout vs Lopez, ShoBox
by Scott Christ on Jun 11, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
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I'm going to be out for the rest of the day, so here's an open thread to talk some fights. Sky has a 5pm show with 6'9" heavyweight David Price (10-0, 8 KO) taking on fellow UK giant heavyweight prospect Tom Dallas (15-0, 11 KO), who stands a mere 6'6". Here's part of Dave Oakes' preview:
Price, 10-0 (KO 8), has had everything stacked in his favour thus far in his pro career, some of his opponents have been laughable. Osborne Machimana in particular left ringsiders exasperated - he is up there with the worst boxers I’ve seen in a British ring. Price has been getting some top class sparring over the past two years; hopefully he will have learned more from that than he has from his fights.
Dallas, 15-0 (KO 11), represents a solid step-up in class - he’ll be the first boxer Price has fought with a winning record and he carries reasonable punch power. He’s not the most technically gifted boxer, being too upright, robotic and flat-footed - as was witnessed in his struggle against Zack Page last time out - but what he has got is pride, toughness and ambition.
There's also another ShoBox double-header tonight, and I think the Austin Trout vs David Lopez fight is being televised somewhere or other in Mexico, but I'm not certain. Enjoy your Saturday.
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Ah, the sultry tones of Ian John Rewis…
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Shinny really got fucked over last time out.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
10-9 Paul Edwards
Messy, as all Chris Edwards fights are, but Paul landed some nice shots.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
This is all Paul Edwards, but I wonder if he's going to tire down the stretch.
Chris Edwards has a heck of a motor, and Paul has never really been this far.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
Yep, I quite fancied that when I saw this match get made.
I went with Paul Edwards in the pick’em, mainly because I think home advantage might sway the cards. Got some money on the draw though.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Now Paul's having a good round
Draw looks tasty for you
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I know! Managed to get in there at 28/1 and 33/1, and it's now down at 14/1.
Come on the draw!
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I read today
that John Mcdermott will face the winner of Price v Dallas around October time, with the winner to face Chisora/Fury in early 2012, so it could work out well.
We will get to see all the best Brit heavies face each other, hopefully.
Yep, that's an extremely good set of match ups.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Fury v Price
will be the most interesting potential final match for me.
Rematch of their amateur fight.
Del is gonna be hard to beat though, i reckon.
Del is going to be very tough to beat. He’s a very smart boxer.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m Chisora. Think Fury starts strong, gasses around the 5th, and Chisora bangs him to the body for the remainder of the fight to come out with a workman-like 115-113 116-112 UD type decision.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Fury can stop him
Chisora’s best win was against Sexton. Solid, but that is all. I think the only way Chisora can get to him is to the body as you say because Fury’s chin is very good.
If it does go the distance Fury will hang on to the W, because I think Fury will rake up the early rounds
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
They have been fighting for roughly the same amount of time and have almost identical records, yet i think of Chisora as being the more experienced of the two, probably because he has a more refined style, imo.
I think it’s close to a pick ‘em fight, think Del is the better boxer with slightly more power, but Tyson is probably tougher and has the big height and reach advantage.
At the moment i’m going with Del, but i might change my mind come fight time.
Yep, I read that. Not bad news, but then, who watches Channel 5 ever?
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Never that desperate that I end up watching Channel 5! You’re a braver man than I, Phil!
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Paul looks like he’s slowing somewhat. Chris Edwards landing a fair amount of shots. I quite like the draw in this one.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
Paul Edwards landing the prettier shots, but Chris Edwards landing a lot more. Paul is knackered.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
Chris Edwards is never tired. That man is a machine.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Latest BBBofC mandated stuff for anyone who is interested
and doesn’t already know:
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/all-title-news-bbboc-1
I like the Sykes v Buckland, Booth v Quigg and Crolla v Limond matchups.
And there’s the Purdy v Watson rematch.
Crolla against anyone is good for me.
I’m hoping for Crolla-Rees above all. Joe Gallacher and Eddie Hearn have been tweeting one another with Gallacher basically trying to bait Matchroom into the fight.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and Booth-Quigg is an awesome fight.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely going with Sykes.
He might have been stopped in Prizefighter, but I think he’s a far better 12 round fighter than Buckland. Still a good fight, though, and I’m sure Sykes will want to correct that L on his slate.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell of a fight.
Really, really enjoyed that. I have it 114-114 – come on the draw!
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Paul Edwards is so getting this decision. Home advantage...
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
Chris Edwards by SD!
I WAS ROBBED
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
haha
Unlucky m8
Robbed your wallet, robbed your Pickem!
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Robbed, on so many levels.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Those middle rounds
Where Paul stepped off the gas were crucial
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
he must have quoted the Guru "Phil"
But I reckon Edwards wins this.
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Sky showing a Video of Price and Dallas sparring
Price just popping that jab out and Dallas doing nout
I hate McCrory.
STOP TELLING ME THINGS I ALREADY KNOW
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
No headguards in Profesionals
you dun’t think?
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
facepalm
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hope Dallas comes out throwing leather. I really want to see how Price responds to getting hit, and Dallas is a so-so puncher.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
Whoose got what in the pick'em for this one Gents?
The only pick I made this week was a Triple on Price by stoppage
Can’t even remember. Might have gone with Price by decision, just because the odds were so attractive.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It's so hard for anyone to get a word in
With Dallas and Price, they’re both such lively, charismatic blokes.
Dallas looks like he’s spent the last 7 years on his own watching paint dry.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And the other seven watching highlights of Zack Page, while pulling his hair out.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Please end early.
I’m tired.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
Price 10-9
Jabfest. Occasional right hand. Different class.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
Very confident about my pick
after that first round
Price just picking his shots and working behind the jaaaab
Price really throws a lovely jab.
Doesn’t telegraph it at all, it just zips out there, nice, straight and fast. Moves pretty well for a big guy too.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
What a beautiful right hand.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
I don’t care if it was only Tom Dallas. Price is a real heavyweight prospect, imo.
He’s got the amateur pedigree and he’s got the power.
Still need to see what that Chin was like
but he has allll the toools
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Dallas, while on his arse, asked the ref if he’d ever considered stamp collecting as an exciting pas time.
Real sharp power
The accuracy of that right hand is pin point
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
McDermott
Could you see Price stopping him as well?
You have to favour him but Big Bad John is a scrappy little fukka
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely see that as a stoppage for Price.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he will. But John will give him much more of a fight, imo.
Like you say, John will make him work for it, but then i think KOing Larry Olabamiwo might have flattered McD a bit.
He hasn’t really beat anyone that good, although he should have got the decision against Fury the first time.
I think he has good ability but yes, i think Price would stop him.
Respect from me to Tom Dallas for taking this fight at 4 days notice.
Not many would and he probably knew he was out of his depth.
Yeah, he was very honest in his assessment afterwards. To be honest, he’s never going to be up to Price’s level, no matter how much sparring or training he gets. Just levels apart.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 11, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Not many would and he probably knew he was out of his depth
Especially after what Page did to him
by Sweet science on Jun 11, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Price looks naturally heavy handed.
He didn’t even look like he was trying in there. As Matt said though, MacD is no mug.
Sky just called Lovemore N'Dou "world-class".
I nearly choked.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
GDay Everyone
sorry I was so bloody slow getting back to you on that other thread Matt. Great question and one thats easy to answer in my opinion. Tszyu was Fenechs chief sparring partner for Fenechs rematch with Azumah Nelson and the word was that Tszyu really beat Fenech up. Some here in Oz blame Lewis for Fenech’s really poor performance in that fight . They say being bashed by an amateur kid in sparring played havoc with the Marrackville Maulers mindset. My moneys on Tszyu. Too big , too strong , punches too hard .
It's (almost) Showtime!
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
And the Puerto Rican prospect-fest continues...
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Gonzalez going for a finish here. Winning handily, with or without KO.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
no doubt, he's really bullying Gutierrez (sp?) around.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Jun 11, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
These guys don't know how to move side to side
Should be a good fight for however long it lasts.
I'm liking this inside action right now from both men.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
He looks a little like Maidana
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
I really should have braved this summer cold I caught and gone to see this show tonight. It's only a 30 minute train ride from here.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
lowww!
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
that guy’s going to rest for all 5 if he’s smart.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
but they never do...
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Jun 11, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I can never understand how fast some of them go back in.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
adrenaline + machismo + cup
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Jun 11, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
ha ha you're right of course.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
for a shut out, an entertaining fight. Gonzales is kind of interesting.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
kind of an odd fighter. Slow puncher but good punch placement.
Likes to mix it up, lots of body punching, hitting hard but here against a thick-bearded foe, like to push forward, but leans his chin too much. It I were Guitierrez, I would have tried more uppercuts splitting those gloves.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Jun 11, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't keep a close score, but clearly a wide wide UD for Gonzalez.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I don’t know. Might have given Dat that round. Tequila clouds my judgment.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Dat showing heart but another Del Valle round in my book
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Del Valle knows how to got to work
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
"go to work"
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Jun 12, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, Dat has certainly earned respect as a man, but not so much as a boxer tonight.
Still, with his heart and determination, I wouldn’t mind seeing him test more prospects down the line.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
exactly
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Jun 12, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
He strikes me as the type who’s too proud to become a pro opponent though. He’s apparently got his own gym, I think he’d become a trainer first.
He might be nudged into that role for a while, but yeah, I say that preview of him, and I can totally see him becoming a trainer down the line
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Jun 12, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Del Valle has impressed all around--not overwhelmingly so, but no doubt a good fight for him.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
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