Make Some Noise!
by BoxAnne on Jun 26, 2011 11:19 AM EDT
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Most of us are bugged beyond words at the Alexander-Matthysse travesty, and feel pretty helpless to do anything about it. And we probably are pretty helpless to do anything about it, but there's no harm in trying. Plus, it may not be as hopeless as it feels--public officials, even appointed ones, don't like to look bad. This is less true regarding those protests that come from beyond their constituencies, but even so, looking bad is looking bad. And a state commission that doesn't take a long look at the scoring of that fight can't look good. So here's a way to maybe put a little shame in their hearts, such that tho' not much may happen to "make whole" this catastrophe, maybe they''ll be a little more careful next time, always assuming anyone not local is silly enough to give them a next time.
It can’t hurt to raise some hell. Most public figures take public perception at least somewhat seriously. The more people register dismay, the harder it is for them to ignore, bury, outlast it . Better than just whining about it.
This is all I can find so far, they’re very opaque:
To the attention of:
Tim Lueckenhoff – Executive Director
MeShell Rice – SOSA
Office of Athletics
3605 Missouri Boulevard
P.O. Box 1335
Jefferson City, MO 65102-1335
573.751.0243 Telephone
573.751.5649 Fax
800.735.2966 TTY
800.735.2466 Voice Relay
athletic@pr.mo.gov
http://pr.mo.gov/athletics.asp
and maybe a copy to:
Governor Jay Nixon
http://governor.mo.gov/contact/
or
Office of Governor Jay Nixon
P.O. Box 720
Jefferson City, MO 65102
Phone: (573) 751-3222
in case e-mails to the Commission get lost. Hard copy to follow in both cases might not be a bad idea either.
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Thanks for all of the info
I’m going to send a letter and email later tonight.
awesome
that was a terrible decision … wasn’t even close to justifiable even factoring in heavy hometown bias.
Matthysse has been robbed in 2 recent fights now and Devon Alexander has been gifted 2 recent wins, as he should have lost the Kotelnik fight as well.
VBery good. Noiw how about doing the same re the Mike Dallas robbery on Friday. That
was even worse.email addresses work best becuase you can get others to send them in
"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry
Re: Mike Dallas Decision:
CSAC Officials’ names:
Chair: John Frierson
Vice-Chair: Dr. Christopher Giza
Commissioner: Dr. VanBuren Ross Lemons
Commissioner: Eugene Hernandez
Commissioner: Anthony Thompson
Commissioner: Vacant
Executive Officer: George Dodd
California State Athletic Commission
2005 Evergreen Street, Suite 2010
Sacramento, CA 95815
Phone: (916) 263-2195
Fax: (916) 263-2197
e-mail: CSAC@dca.ca.gov
FWIW, they promise a response within 24 hours.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
The reply may end up being an automated response saying they will look into it or an acknowledgment of receipt. That has been my experience in places like this.
Ah--should have known
If it’s e-mail, they may at least tabulate trends.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Very good suggestion of Waldo47 on a related thread:
If you are writing in… Make sure to mention that you have some sort of connection to people currently living/voting in Missouri. Or if you are mailing the office of athletics mention that decisions like this make you less inclined to organize trips to Missouri to watch fights. Just make sure that you make it very clear that events like the one on Saturday have monetary consequences.
“The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register.”
-Bob Verdi
by waldo47 on Jun 26, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Thanks for jumping on this so quick BoxAnne. One other note about these commissions are that they are notorious for cronyism – a place to stash campaign contributors (and their friends and kin) with barely there and no-show bureaucratic jobs. Shining a light tends to make the cockroaches and rats scurry about if just to prove that they aren’t sitting there on their thumbs. At the very least it might spark an investigation, which is better than nothing and will remind them that they are being watched.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Roxanne, you don’t have to wear that dress tonight! Walk the streets for money
I’ve never considered myself as a legend – just a simple man with heart.
Not born close enough to Bow Bells for RoxAnne to be my real name (Suzanne), but thanks for the lyric.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Thank you for this
I sent an email expressing my displeasure VERY respectfully. It’s not much, but it’s something.
Further info, if you want it--
Re: MIKE DALLAS JR.
“Mike Dallas Jr. had a 215-170 edge in total punches landed. Dallas outlanded 111-56 over the last 3 rounds”—from Boxing Scene.
full compubox stats for Dallas Jr. vs. Herrera:
http://www.boxingscene.com/compubox-stats-dallas-with-clear-edge-over-herrera—40762
Judges were
Zac Young 95-95
Fritz Werner 92-98
Alexander Rochin Mapula 94-96
Re: LUCAS MATHYSSE
Compubox stats:
http://www.boxingscene.com/compubox-stats-matthysse-edges-alexander-numbers—40820
Judges were
Carlos Colon 93-96
Brett Miller 96-93
Denny Nelson 94-95
Plus the knockdown of Alexander in round 4.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Fritz Werner 92-98. There beeds to be an explanation for that, Fritz.
"Luck is when preparation meets opportunity." - Mike Quarry
Even if we could get these commissions to question the judges more often, it would be a step. I really, truly think — and not just because of recent weird cards — that there has to be more accountability for boxing officials, both judges and referees. It’s just something that should be looked into regularly. It’s a job that impacts every fighter they call as a winner or loser. Mike Dallas Jr could have gone on to main event a FNF later. Instead, now what is he? A guy who almost surely will not get that opportunity.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 27, 2011 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe write to ESPN2 & HBO
as well, in support of the fighters’ who’ve been, well, robbed. They can’t influence the judging, and there was nothing wrong with the Atlas-Tessitore response to the decision, but maybe enough fan mail supporting the jobbed fighter and expressions of longing to see Mike Dallas Jr. again, soon if possible would be some kind of help.
Re HBO, maybe more like complaints about lack of bias. With, however painful, full props to Merchant on this one. so they get the distinction. I’ll hunt for addresses.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
You know the thing about the Compubox numbers is, I mentioned on the RBR thread that I wanted to score round 7 a 10-8 round for Matthysse. Compubox had it 27 to 3 total punches in favor of Matthysse, with 26 of those power punches. I do think that confirms what I saw, and revise my final score to 97-91, Matthysse.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I scored it 10-8 in the live thread; thought it was appropriate then, and this only confirms it.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 27, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine’s working right now, but sometimes it quits on me. It’s a pest, but I find if I return to the main page and then back to the thread, reply will then work. You’ll lose the orange highlighting of new replies tho, also a pest. Don’t know why it happens.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Well,
sent off a message but don’t know what it will do.
I like that you took the initiative, BA.
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