Bad Left Hook Live Results and Coverage: Sebastian Zbik vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 9:15 PM EDT
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With his legendary father set to enter the International Boxing Hall of Fame next weekend, the spotlight is on Julio Cesar Chavez Jr tonight, as the mega-popular young fighter targets his first major title, facing Sebastian Zbik on HBO Boxing After Dark.
The show starts at 10 p.m. EDT. The co-feature has exciting featherweight prospect Mikey Garcia (25-0, 21 KO) taking on short-notice opponent Rafael Guzman (28-2, 20 KO) in a 10-round bout, and we probably won't be switched off from the Showtime card in time to do round-by-round updates for that fight.
But we will be here for the main event, as 25-year-old Chavez (42-0-1, 30 KO) makes his first appearance on HBO and looks to lift the WBC middleweight title from Zbik (30-0, 10 KO). Chavez is the moderate betting favorite for the fight, and has Freddie Roach in his corner, but he's struggled against lesser fighters in the past and naysayers have been predicting his imminent downfall for a few years now. Will tonight be the night he meets more than he can handle, or will the son take another step forward?
Join us tonight for live discussion and round-by-round coverage.
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DOWN GOES MARTIROSYAN!
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Great fight!
Vanes Martirosyan TKO-7 Saul Roman
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Flipping to this from the Stanley Cup
Looks like Garcia is wooping up on Guzman
Guzman is a tough dude
Just can’t stop Garcia, although Garcia has been tagged a few times
Zbik out to "Rock You Like a Hurricane"
Surprise surprise
oh good. i got here just in time for “Not Afraid”
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I’m gonna hafta watch Guida-Pettis on the UFC show over this. I just don’t really care about either guy.
by Verklemptomaniac on Jun 4, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve never been able to take Chavez Jr seriously, but a haircut would help a little bit
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
I'd take him more seriously if his father wasnt shilled
before a fight like that.
Zbik-Chavez R1
Chavez weighed 180 today. Zbik 165. 180???
Chavez targeting the body with wide hooks. Nice 1-2 by Zbik, and he hammers with the right. Zbik looks much faster of hand than Chavez. Chavez going to that body. Both leaning on each other in close, nobody holding. Nice combo by Zbik, head and body. Chavez with a right, then an uppercut in close. Hook to the body again. Nice shots from Zbik, but Chavez backs him down in return. Fun first round here — I’ll watch Jr fight all the time if it’s like this more often.
Zbik 10-9
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I had no idea Grigorian trains Zbik
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Zbik is looking good.
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
well, he's fighting Chavez
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
good work to the body by chavez
"Sure, there have been injuries and deaths in boxing – but none of them serious." Alan Minter
Zbik-Chavez R2
Zbik working that jab, popping Chavez every time he comes toward him. Nice hook to the body by Chavez. That’s been his best punch so far, and could pay off later. Chavez being backed down to the corner. Zbik coming right to him now, and RIPS Chavez with two shots upstairs. Chavez goes a little low with a body shot, referee gives him a second but doesn’t make a big issues. Chavez to the body again. Zbik comes back with a nice series. Both guys mixing it up, now Chavez turning up the heat a little. Zbik misses a right upstairs, but just barely.
Zbik 10-9
Zbik 20-18
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Chavez better find his inner Daddy in this fight (or have the promotion, judges and crowd on your side and survive.)
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
His inner JCC is probably what keeps telling him he sucks and smacks him on the head. I would run away from that, myself.
R2 10-9 Zbik, 20-18 same
Totally unexpected, but I’m kinda becoming a JCC, Jr. fan.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 10:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nice to see that Jones Jr. is still alive after the Lebedev fight…
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Julio looks quite good offensively, but Zbik can hit him at ease. If he keeps catching him flush, I wouldn’t be that surprised if Zbik can really hurt him.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 4, 2011 11:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Now that’s a little of his dad!
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Zbik-Chavez R3
Hook to the body by Chavez. Roy repeating himself over and over. Slipping into Lennox territory. Zbik backs Chavez down with a combo. Zbik with another clean shot. I’ve never thought a ton of Zbik, but he’s tooling Chavez. This isn’t close. Chavez has the hook to the body. That’s about it. Nice combo by Zbik, Chavez showboats and fires back. Hits Zbik’s gloves a lot. Uppercut by Zbik. Another nice combo by Zbik rattles Chavez’s head around. Chavez goes to the body a little to end the round.
Zbik 10-9
Zbik 30-27
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I don’t like most of Jr’s body shots. He’s throwing it from so far out that he’s too extended. I don’t believe that shot is doing damage most of the time, if ever.
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
Zbik 30-27
But it seems like the body work is starting to get to him and he’s tiring some.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
R3 10-9 Zbik, 30-27 same
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Zbik doing all he can to make these rounds as wide as possible.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 4, 2011 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chavez gets hit way too much.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I admire Chavez’ effort, but he just has terrible defense and footwork. Zbik is just blasting away at Chavez’ face at will.
by SilverLaker on Jun 4, 2011 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That was one of the stupidest “It didn’t hurt me!” sequences I’ve ever seen in 15 years watching boxing, but it was also one of the more entertaining.
I think we should be happy he can simply complete sentences
After that horrible KO.
There doesn't seem to be much to Chavez Jr. tonight...
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Chavez has spent 1:30 backing up here. wtf?
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
Chavez is thinking fondly of Troy Rowland now…
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 4, 2011 11:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Zbik-Chavez R4
“Zbik is definitely trying to win this fight.” – Roy Jones Jr
Zbik whomps him with a right. Boy, for real. This fight is not close. Zbik is way outclassing Chavez so far. Chavez may be able to get to him with power as this wears on, and the body work might add up sometime, but he also needs more of it, and he needs to get up on Zbik. He cannot box this guy.
Zbik 10-9
Zbik 40-36
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
R4 10-9 Zbik, 40-36 same
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can’t believe i bought into the Chavez improvement theory.
I knew he was shit all along and should have stuck wiht my instinct before betting my points.
I mean, Zbik os shit, so Chavez is clearly double dog shit.
I was into the improvement — then, frankly, I watched Martirosyan kinda smoke him in sparring, and I turned that car the fuck around.
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by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I never said he got good, just better than shit. He’s a mediocrity with a famous name.
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by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Chavez is acquitting himself against Zbik worse than Della Rosa
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Question for everyone, since the fight isn’t all that entertaining: Is Zbik that good (on an overall level) or is he just overwhelming JCC JR?
Zbik isn’t very good. Just my opinion, but I’ve never thought he was a true world class middleweight.
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by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Max is right though — this is about as good as Zbik has looked as a pro. He is sharp tonight.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s probably pretty good at his style. He can’t hit for shit – but he’s efficient, scores points and throws combos well. He’s solid. I’d say a bottom of the top 10 – like a 8 or 9 kind of guy.
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
Zbik-Chavez R5
This is kind of like watching whack-a-mole. Chavez sticks his face out there and Zbik pops him. Zbik is just dominating this fight. This might be the first and last HBO main event for Jr, because you can only get so much out of “he’s popular” before it looks like you’re just showcasing a bad fighter. I mean maybe he comes back here. He might. It could happen. But he’s getting beaten badly. Zbik does take a clean right that wobbles him giong back to the corner. Don’t think it’ll make a huge difference.
Zbik 10-9
Zbik 50-45
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
R5 10-9 Zbik, 50-45 same
But JCC not embarrassing himself. If he keeps plugging to the body, he might have a shot late.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Amazing – the Top Rank commentators just lauded Urbano Antillon – “of 11 losses” – for knocking out JuanMa Lopez and then stepping up to lightweight for Rios. Classic.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 4, 2011 11:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
awesome
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, they’re trying to preemptively find a way to make sense of the UD that Chavez is going to get.
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
This is completely off topic, but does anyone else think jabs look more effective against guys with long hair? Like you can see a guys head snap back more?
I agree
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
yes
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
On the other hand
The sweat flies off the head of guys with shaved heads better
by Verklemptomaniac on Jun 4, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Zbik-Chavez R6
Chavez starting to do some better work, and his power might be starting to come into play. Well, that and the fact he’s 180 pounds. I’m sick of hearing about his DNA. Chavez leaning on him. Good tactic. Zbik has definitely slowed down a hair or two. Right hand Zbik. two shots by Chavez. Chavez just getting back into it a little.
Chavez 10-9
Zbik 59-55
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
R6 10-9 JCC, 59-55 Zbik
JCC body work starting to make a difference.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good line from Roy
“With a Cruiserweight”. He may have something left up there that Lebedev didn’t deaden
really Lederman? 3 round even?
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
Seckbach has it 60-14 Brandon Rios
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by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
hbo has always had bias. watch mosely cotto?
mosley margarito?" should u hit a freight train to the body? why not?" and bang bang bang!
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
I don’t care how bad Chavez Jr is (he’s pretty bad), I don’t think Cotto should fight a 180 pound fighter
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
Cotto would tear this kid to pieces. It’s just too big a talent difference.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Zbik-Chavez R7
Zbik letting his hands go, Chavez still trying to lean on him with his weight. Chavez with an uppercut, doesn’t land clean, Zbik fires off four shots. Bob Papa is explaining that judges score every single round, not just all at the end of the fight. Holy shit. Who does he think is watching this? Joe Buck?
Chavez throwing power shots and backing Zbik down. The crowd does love Chavez. Good body shot by Chavez.
Chavez 10-9
Zbik 68-65
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
It's worked before in Germany
See, e.g., Reid vs. Ottke
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
As I recall, Reid got warned for punching Sven in the face.
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
R7 10-9 JCC, 68-65 Zbik
JCC…breaking him down??
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chavez coming on strong now
67-66 Zbik.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Also this is a perfectly fun fight.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
and rjj sucks at the mic imo.
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
he's having a bad night
dna dna dna dna
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by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he sucked in khan maidana too
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
down goes maidana on a body shot! he’s getting up! RJJ:“but he dont want to!” merchant:“hes getting up roy, i think he does”
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
Haha yeah, no-one gets up from a shot like that unless they’re a bad mofo.
by belleberyboy on Jun 4, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm happy he can still speak after what he's been through lately,
Even if it doesn’t amount to anything more than perseverating.
Choosing the winner of these two on the Pick em game was like picking between a bad case of genital warts or a terrible dose of crabs.
I should have just passed.
Two things that suck you can have fun getting.
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by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
R8 10-9 Zbik, 78-74 same
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Zbik-Chavez R8
Chavez actually starting to cover up defensively better as the fight goes on. He’s made some decent adjustments here, which is the Freddie Roach difference for him, I figure. Zbik now starting to look a bit frustrated and tired. Chavez catches him coming in with a right. But Zbik still landing more shots, and by a good margin. I just don’t know the quality of his punches anymore.
Zbik 10-9
Zbik 78-74
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Decent comeback round for Zbik
But I could see someone giving that one to Chavez. 77-75 Zbik for me.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I’ll say this for JCCJr, he throws with authority. Nice body work, too, though it helps that he doesn’t have to worry about power shots coming back.
by Verklemptomaniac on Jun 4, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
A very sad and horrendous fight, by the way. The way these guys “move” is shameful.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
lol
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
this all looks like slow motion now.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
You know who Chavez actually reminds me of?
Ricardo Mayorga. Just without the power.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Zbik-Chavez R9
Chavez spends a few seconds making sure we all know he’s not hurt. Zbik spends those seconds hitting Chavez in the face. Chavez doing nothing offensive for the first 1:30 of the round. Kellerman thinks Chavez is having his best round. Roy: “I don’t think so?” I mean he sounded genuinely puzzled, and rightly so. Chavez is doing fuck all. Zbik is dominating this round. I mean it’s not close. At all.
Zbik 10-9
Zbik 88-83
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Kellerman has built this narrative where Zbik is worn down by the end of the fight
and JCC Jr shows “grit”
R9 10-9 Zbik, 88-83 same
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chavez just putting weight on him now. It’s incredible that this isn’t an undercard.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
And this appears to have sold well in the big boy room of Staples
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
oh yeah, of course it did
Junior has tiger blood and adonis dna
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I bet Hurrold gave that one to Chavez
At worst, Zbik should be up one
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Goddam you Lederman – this is a fucking idiotic card.
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
Lederman’s card must have been expensive.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Canucks won in overtime… just in case anybody cares
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
I’m glad they’re likely gonna win the series, but I’d like it to be a little more drawn out. Each game I’m just waiting for the offensive explosion from Van.
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
R10 10-9 JCC, 97-93 Zbik
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah sorry lol, didn’t really finish that sentence.
by belleberyboy on Jun 4, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Zbik-Chavez R10
Zbik continues to do what he’s been doing. Chavez landed a few nice shots, hurt Zbik once earlier. Mostly this has been Zbik outclassing Chavez. There’s a left by Zbik. Chavez goes to the body with a few and tries to steal the round. Which he probably will thanks to the crowd.
Zbik 10-9
Zbik 98-92
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I think I'm going mad...
but I have Zbik 98-92 ahead…
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
The Spanish broadcast is hilarious. I think they just crowned Little Chavez King of the Moon or something.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
"Former middleweight titleholder"
Seriously HBO? That pisses me off. He’s the current legitmate champion of the world. Own up.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
He’s the legit champ without being a title holder. Best of both worlds imo.
by belleberyboy on Jun 4, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair to Kellerman
He at least said the same thing during introductions.
Crystal Chavez
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
If HBO was willing to throw money at Tall Paul/Ishida
they should be happy to put on Sergio/Pirog. Sergio is a pure star! Ugh
Chavez’s power must not be that much… he’s hit Zbik a LOT to the body and Zbik is still up
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
Come on, y'all
Give JCC some love for digging to the body.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Spanish broadcast just compared Junior to Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson and Roberto Duran.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I wonder who that makes Zbik???
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Let me guess
They all sucked compared to JCC?
In that all are male, carbon-based lifeforms?
by Verklemptomaniac on Jun 4, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ten fingers and ten toes???
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
not chavez
11 of each
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by Scott Christ on Jun 4, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Zbik-Chavez R11
Chavez roaring in close with both hands, doing what he can. Zbik WINCING! says Max. WINCING! Well then, Chavez 10-2 this round. after all, he’s WINCING!
Chavez going to the body well, don’t get me wrong. And right now he’s winning this round. But my God. It’s like they want to legitimize what’s going to be wrong because they know it’s going to happen. Zbik isn’t moving well at all anymore. Good stuff by Chavez in close. This is by far Chavez’s best round. a very good round for him.
Chavez 10-9
Zbik 107-102
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
R11 10-9 JCC, 106-103 Zbik
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
107-102 Zbik
Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.
Lederman has it 108-103 for JCC Jr. That’s a real joke.
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
.
I don’t think HBO would tell him what to say…. but I sort of wonder
by journeyintosound on Jun 4, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Harold, however, has lost his fucking mind. 106-103 JCC????
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
On a only somewhat related note
Can we please have this end the amazingness of Roach talk
Pacman, he legit improved. Khan he legit improved, but mostly it appears that he improved due to being at 140 and age causing his chin to improve – I don’t know of any way to train chin. Cause lets be honest, the old Kahn is knocked out by those shots by Maidana.
JCC Jr was exposed today (inevitably), Martrosian still hasn’t beaten much (saul roman doesn’t count).
I’m not saying Roach isn’t a good trainer, but this Roach is the best of all time EVAR crap is becoming like Manny Pacquiao is the greatest of all time EVAR crap. Enough with this.
by journeyintosound on Jun 4, 2011 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
Oh I totally realize that Ward isn’t the greatest fighter of all time ever, but I am going to say he is. That being said, he is legitimately probably currently the best at 168, and if he could carry the weight he might be better than B-Hop at 175 (currently the best there). That being said, I’m not sure how well he would do going up to 175.
by journeyintosound on Jun 4, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and i think he’d beat bute wide also. But he may be a 1 weight class wonder.
by journeyintosound on Jun 4, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno about Bute, not sure he has the power to keep him honest. Should be a good matchup though.
by belleberyboy on Jun 4, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t Trump just parachute in and fire both of these guys?
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"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
i have to say, i’ve enjoyed this fight… not pretty, but entertaining
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
R12 10-9 JCC, 115-113 Zbik
Honestly, I’m not going to complain about a Chavez win here.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Chavez showed serious grit in the championship rounds
And earned a draw on my card. But as tired as Zbik was, he should have been able to score the KO.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Zbik-Chavez R12
Chavez unloading, Zbik finally stops complaining about low blows that aren’t being called and fires back. Zbik is exhausted. Chavez with a good flurry to the body. Zbik has no gas left at all. Chavez is throwing and winning the round easily.
Chavez 10-9
Zbik 116-112
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Lederman has this for Chavez? Like, seriously actually has this for Julio Cesar Chavez? Even the Top Rank “Urbano Antillon with his 11 losses and KO of JuanMa” had Zbik winning! Harold’s gone mad.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Jun 4, 2011 11:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fire up the van, get him to the old folks home.
by The Twillness on Jun 4, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we stop praising Chavez’s “body attack”? Most of the time it was just flailing at his midsection.
Yeah, well. It was a sucker’s bet to take Zbik. Chavez draws the flies. Welcome to the dark side of boxing.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
THAT SUCKS
"Sure, there have been injuries and deaths in boxing – but none of them serious." Alan Minter
Zbik vs Chavez Scores
114-114
115-113
116-112
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr by majority decision
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
I don’t agree, but it’s not totally crazy. Congrats to JCC, Jr.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
116-112 is out there
But 115-113 Chavez is still reasonable IMO. I have Zbik one close round that easily could have swung to Chavez. At least to me, Chavez just seemed to consistently be doing more damage. This fight did veryu little to upgrade my opinion of him though.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Indeed
TR will stick him in there with Cotto. They’ll force the issue. And if Cotto won’t because of size, they’ll feed him to Sergio before they’ll let him fight a no-name who so obviously is a horrible style matchup for him, and probably more talented too.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Chavez is going to take this belt…and run, and, run, and run.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Spanish broadcast doesn’t mention Zbik’s name very often. I’m not sure they actually know it.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
might be hard to say with a mexican accent
zbik
by journeyintosound on Jun 4, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s no surprise. I feel no outrage. I feel a certain numbness which may be indifference to me watching the 15th or so best middleweight get a raw deal against the 24th best. I said before I couldn’t recall an HBO main event with two fighters I thought less of. I pretty much stand by that.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Well,this is a Lose-Lose for Universum
first Braehmer backs out of the Clev fight and then gets stripped and then this happens,they have no champions now.
congratulation i love you
HAHAHAHA
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
Zbik DOESN’T have a great defense and ISN’T a great fighter and neither is papi’s darling here. Very sad.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Zbik is an awfully nice guy.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Zbik is giving the most honest, brutally sad post-fight interview I’ve ever heard. His reaction is basically what mine is, except he just got hit for 12 rounds and it actually matters to him.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
well, we all knew he would get jibbed… he knew it too
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
thats why the lines were what they were at vegas. I collected on this fight despite thinking that Chavez lost much like I collected on the Alexander-Kotelnik fight. USA is the new Germany
by journeyintosound on Jun 4, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Zbik's about as gracious on the mike as any fighter I've ever heard immediately after losing a close one in a hometown decision
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
To be honest
I thought that was a coin flip fight. Well done to Jr. A lot of people – me included- didnt think he would even get this far. I also always enjoy his fights
Classy Chavez fans booing Zbik for not faling over dead before the little prince.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
“Here at HBO we refused Chavez for years based on the fact that he’s not very good. But folks, we’re fucking desperate for viewers. So here is JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR, heir to the throne.”
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
It's rare for me to look forward to a fighter being outclassed.
After all, it’s not Chavez’s fault that he’s a pawn in the game. But still, if he gets anywhere near the names that are being thrown out there…
“you can’t really argue with the scoring” – get real
"You can't search me without probable cause Or that proper ammunition they call reasonable suspicion Listen while I bring friction to your whole jurisdiction" - Fugees
You can argue, but it won’t do any good. Like getting a speeding ticket from a traffic cop.
by belleberyboy on Jun 4, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Man that interview made me sad
Everything Zbik said was on the money. This fight was hardly a robbery, but man this still sucks
Also this backfired on me with Duddy
but I would love this fight for either Macklin or Lee
probably trying to make their end scores seem less stupido
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
Arthur Abraham is still a serious man
He lost to some damn good fighters. It would be a huge ask of Jr
Does Max Kellerman seem like he’s eaten more nonsense tonight than he can stomach, and he’s about to throw up? Or is that just me?
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
it males a nice change
Usually I’m close to hurling after hearing Kellerman’s garbage
This might be the first time ever I 100% agree with Kellerman
And feel like he’s saying exactly what needs to be said.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
…Roy Jones is a crazy person.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
obviously you've never had the opportunity
to feel like Michael after Thriller came out.
I'm glad he specified a time period
where he wanted to feel like Jackson, or else we might’ve had to call in Chris Hansen.
by Verklemptomaniac on Jun 4, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Akward....
Roy interview. You are not Bernard dude!!!! No no need for film are you nuts?! stop fighting!!!
Is Roy Jones high?
He’s taken too many punches or something. That was gibberish.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Watching these two mediocre guys squabble over a belt was a little sad tonight. Listening to grown men dignify it was sadder.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
by jrok on Jun 4, 2011 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
What the fuck did Roy just say? Holy shit.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Jun 4, 2011 11:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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by Sammlung on Jun 4, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Roy kinda summed up this fight for me, there.
Bad Left Hook
"My God, kids today think that the laces are for tying up the gloves."
-- Fritzie Zivic
I got a bad feeling about Canelo-Rhodes
Something tells me Rhodes will get the shaft worse in that fight than Zbik got in this one.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I'm prepared for it.
I’ve tempered my excitement quite a bit because I’m fairly positive he’s gonna get shafted
Rhodes is no joke, and unlike Zbik has a punch. Call me a drunken loon if you will, but I saw Canelo hurt by Cotto (the other one).
by belleberyboy on Jun 4, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
thats in mexico
not the us….. maybe that will help… but i doubt it
Also, that will be a higher level fight, so the boxing itself should be better
by journeyintosound on Jun 4, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
They couldn't find a single iota of video on Rhodes for the promo?
He’s only had like 15 televised fights in the UK
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
its possible they don’t have the rights to the fights, but wouldn’t that be fair use?
by journeyintosound on Jun 4, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
With as many fights as they both carry
Why the heck wouldn’t Sky give HBO the right to use if if they ask?
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Earlier I was watching highlights of Roy from about 10 years ago.
I am now depressed at the effects of time and being thumped in the head.
Roy
is going to forget a lot of stuff if he keeps fighting…
Yeah…probably too late, based on how he talks. Man, that bums me out.
by belleberyboy on Jun 5, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
well
i at least hope he quits now, before it gets any worse.
by journeyintosound on Jun 5, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
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