Bad Left Hook Live Results and Coverage: Povetkin vs Chagaev
by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:00 PM EDT
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Today at 4:30 p.m. EDT on ARD (Germany) and 5 p.m. EDT on Epix and streaming live on EpixHD.com (United States), the vacant WBA "regular" heavyweight title will be contested in the main event of a heavyweight double-header from Erfurt, Germany.
Teddy Atlas-trained Russian amateur star Alexander Poevtkin (21-0, 15 KO) will look to pick up his first major pro title when he faces former titleholder Ruslan Chagaev (27-1-1, 17 KO) in the main event. Povetkin has been in line for two fights with Wladimir Klitschko -- in fact, both were signed, and press conferences were held, and all of that. But Povetkin pulled out in December 2008 claiming injury, and when he left Klitschko hanging again in 2010, bigger doubts were raised about Povetkin and about the direction that Teddy Atlas would be taking him.
Chagaev is a step up from Povetkin's recent opponents, which have been lousy mismatches against the likes of Nicolai Firtha, Teke Oruh, Javier Mora, Leo Nolan, Jason Estrada, and Taurus Sykes. To say Povetkin took a step backwards after beating Eddie Chambers in January 2008 would be a huge understatement.
But Chagaev has his own concerns, too, having looked a little ragged in his last two fights, wins over Kali Meehan and Travis Walker. Those followed a one-sided beatdown at the hands of Wladimir Klitschko in June 2009.
In the co-feature, 27-year-old Robert Helenius (15-0, 10 KO) of Finland faces another former titlist, Sergei "White Wolf" Liakhovich (25-3, 16 KO). Liakhovich has largely disappeared from the relevant heavyweight boxing scene since he was stopped in a dramatic 12th round by Shannon Briggs in 2006, fighting just three times since then, and only once against a rated opponent, a bad loss to Nikolai Valuev. Helenius, as we noted earlier, is an enormous betting favorite in this fight, with oddsmakers clearly pegging Liakhovich as washed-up, damaged goods. But even in his big knockout win over Samuel Peter earlier this year, Helenius still showed some flaws. He's the favorite for a reason today, but if Liakhovich is in shape and focused, it could be a bit of a trap fight for the still somewhat raw, 6'7" Finn.
We'll be here with live, round-by-round coverage, scoring and analysis of both fights, followed by immediate post-fight analysis of the results of each bout. Join us!
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I tried with Epix again, but once again the stream was jumpy, and that wasn’t even the live broadcast. So I’ll be sticking with this Polsat feed personally. Undercards are on Polsat if anyone’s interested. Happy hunting.
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Dude threw a beach towel in to end an undercard fight. That’s a big stoppage.
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I’m currently having OK luck after pestering them on Twitter. And I didn’t meant to pester. I WANT this to work. I appreciate the effort. But they’re 0-for-3 on reliable live streams so far and this was jumping already on the Lewis Black special they’re airing.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
They have a stream up. They ran their Lewis Black special as kind of a lead-in, which is fine by me. Now they go live soon, so we’ll see.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
http://events.epixhd.com/povetkin-vs-chagaev/
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, they raided Dan Tucker’s house and now I can’t find him. If anyone sees him, send me an email.
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
Afternoon folks
Assuming Irene doesn’t knock out the power, I’m looking forward to two mediocre heavyweight fights.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, we already had some photos in our tool earlier of Evander in the audience. I’m hearing that Evander vs the winner is very, very possible.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve got what sounds like a French feed, oddly enough.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
I wanted to see some undercard fights, now i’m watching featurettes in german i think
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
Undercard is totally over. Main two fights all that’s left.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
In defiance of his problems with Hepatitis, I would really like to see Chagaev come out clad in yellow tonight.
both fights are heavyweight right? man, this is what August does to me
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
yup
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ummm… I thought Povetkin-Chagaev was the main event?
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
It is, but it goes on first. They do this in the UK a lot too for TV boxing. You do the main event first.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Povetkin with no trouble. Chagaev hasn’t looked good in years.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t know, he hasn’t fought anyone. But he certainly wasn’t struggling with the likes of Travis Walker.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Chagaev is in ring, Povetkin walking now
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
...oh, cool
Well I guess I’m going illegal.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
kind of
It’s going after this one.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ukranian flag holding woman UD-12 Russian flag holding woman.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
Well we’re good and live. Shame, Epix was working fine for me.
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what happened?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Well Epix isn’t going live until 5. So now I’m on a pirate stream.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It’ll do that.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
10-9 Chagaev
Not much action, but he blocked pretty much everything Povetkin threw, and landed a few shots here’n there.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 1
Both flicking jabs to start. Povetkin comes in with a right hand, it’s blocked easily by Chagaev. More jab flicking. Pawing. Povetkin is the one coming forward now and then, and he lands a right hand, and then another sneaks in.
Povetkin 10-9
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This fight is being held in a library.
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Yeah i saw that video last night. i was gonna put it on the site but it wasn’t embeddable.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
10-10, 20-19 Chagaev
Not much landing here either. Povetkin having problems getting through Chagaev’s high, tight guard. Chagaev throws a sneaky little straight left lead.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 2
Well, it’s…tactical thus far with a minute left in this round. Chagaev should unload that left hand more often. And they do appear to have made a “no body shots” pact. Povetkin with a few little attempts at offense, but mostly he’s missing, and then there’s nothing after. Chagaev reaches in with his left now and then, but with little intent it appears. Povetkin with a little right hand inside. If Chagaev doesn’t get going he’s going to basically give this fight away. Nobody willing to take even a small risk thus far.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 20-18
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10-9 Povetkin, 29-29
Povetkin working the body a bit, and following up left hooks to the body with a left uppercut thrown with ill intent.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 3
HOLY SHIT A BODY SHOT! Everyone calm down! Everyone relax! Just play it cool!
Povetkin keeps shooting this little uppercut when Chagaev gets in close. It could be a factor. Chagaev is a little more aggressive this round, but not so aggressive that you’d call him aggressive. Nice to see him awake though. Povetkin with a three-punch combo, partially blocked, Chagaev shoots a left back and misses. Nobody’s landing much by way of significant shots in this fight. Chagaev misses a wild right hook.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 30-27
There’s Holyfield. Oh boy.
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Anyone with Dan’s current address—any address—would be much appreciated at Boxzanne@gmail.com.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 4
I like that Povetkin is putting punches together when he does throw, and he’s looking toward the body a bit more. Chagaev is trigger-shy and doesn’t like leaving himself open at all. I really think he’s basically letting Povetkin, who is starting to heat up juuuust a bit in his attack, waltz to a belt. Chagaev has no rhythm whatsoever.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 40-36
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10-9 Povetkin, 39-38 same
This isn’t a half-bad little fight. Povetkin mixes up his punches well.
And just realized he’s doing liver work on a guy with hepatitis. Nasty.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
I would actually say it’s exactly half bad.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Epix announcer: This is for the vacant heavyweight championship!
Color commentator from Sports Illustrated: Well, actually, it’s utterly meaningless blah blah blah Klitschko “elevated” ….
Epix announcer: Interesting. Lennox, isn’t it great that these two guys are here fighting for the heavyweight championship!
10-9 Povetkin, 49-47
Chagaev stung Povetkin with a counter left hook, but Povetkin landed all the other meaningful punches that round.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 5
Chagaev starting to chop a left hand in return to Povetkin’s shots, but not landing it clean, and it’s also basically all he’s doing. Povetkin’s footwork is pretty good for a heavyweight, he’s able to move and make Chagaev press reset constantly. Chagaev’s defense is still pretty good, but offensively, he’s just not doing much, and now he’s starting to look a little desperate with some wild swings. That is better than doing nothing, though. At least he’s throwing his hands more. Both hands hurling uppercuts from Povetkin.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 50-45
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Pvetkin in trouble
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 6
Chagaev landing BIG shots now and Povetkin is not seeing that left hand! He’s stung there. Chagaev now the one coming forward and Povetkin just recovering still. Breathing heavily too. Has been for a couple rounds. Chagaev pretty well bossed this round.
Chagaev 10-9
Povetkin 59-55
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10-9 Chagaev, 58-57 Povetkin
Chagaev landed six or seven hard counter left hooks that Povetkin felt.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
Big Chagaev round,
but he should have pushed it even more.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
He's still a little rattled, in addition to possibly beginning to tank
wouldn’t count him out yet though.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
yes
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 7
Man, Chagaev just might be building some serious momentum. Povetkin looks more worried than he did earlier, not landing the combinations, not even throwing them, and Chagaev’s left hand is zipping in on him. Well…you know. Maybe not “zipping,” but it’s the punch for him without a doubt. Povetkin waiting around a lot, looking for counters, but then tying up when it gets tight. Chagaev’s jab looking like it has purpose now, too. He looks like the better fighter at the moment. Povetkin with the uppercut, Chagaev counters with a left.
Chagaev 10-9
Povetkin 68-65
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I’m watching on Epix…why is it on ly round 3…..am I in a time warp?
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
They didn’t go live until way late.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
10-9 Chagaev, 67-67
There’s no steam behind Povetkin’s punches right now.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:29 PM EDT reply actions
Has Teddy sat down on Povetkins stool yet?
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
indeed
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 8
Povetkin has no mustard on his punches and just doesn’t look very good in there. He’s staying in there and all, but Chagaev has taken firm control of the pace of this fight. Povetkin with a lead right, easily blocked by Chagaev’s glove, and then Povetkin throws nothing else. Povetkin’s body language isn’t good — when he gets a moment to break, he sort of slumps physically. He needs the Posture Pals.
Chagaev on the other hand is just moving forward, putting on some pressure, throwing his left hand. Povetkin getting some body shots in. Povetkin dodges three punches from Chagaev, and that looked good. Tougher round to score. Chagaev dictated it, but I do think Povetkin landed better punches.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 78-74
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10-9 Povetkin, 77-76 same
Much better for Povetkin. Landing that uppercut again.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, Atlas playing the ‘do honor to your dead father’ card.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
Teddy Atlas is a psycho.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Teddy's giving a particularly Freudian pep talk in the corner there. lol
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
in pure Russian, no less.
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but it’s four rounds behind.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
someone can give him a stream link
I’ll just hide it when it comes up. He’ll still see it.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
all the others that people posted are still up there
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
They’re hidden. If he came in after he can’t see ’em.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
http://events.epixhd.com/povetkin-vs-chagaev/
gotta sign up for a free trial…
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 9
Chagaev may have given away the momentum. He gave the last round away by not coming out hot, and now he’s too passive again. Povetkin may have taken Teddy’s crazy pep talk right to heart because even his body language looks better now.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 88-83
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Chagaev in danger of slipping back into wait and see mode...
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
10-9 Povetkin, 87-85 same
Chagaev not throwing enough.
by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 27, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 10
Povetkin the aggressor for sure now. Doesn’t fight well off his back foot at all, but when he can lead the action, he’s easily winning this fight. And he’s totally regrouped from the earlier struggles, which were brief, and that’s a credit to him and some to Atlas and the dead father card. Povetkin looking strong this round. Leaving it in the ring. I can give him credit for that.
Chagaev’s fight plan can be summed up easily: Left hand. Left hand. SUCCESS! Left hand? Left hand? Hmm.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 98-92
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Povetkin back in the driver's seat.
His dad smiles down from Teddy-heaven.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Aug 27, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Has he mentioned the bravery of the Russians at Stalingrad, yet?
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be his fight plan theme if this was on espn...
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
That uppercut is not going to work against Wlad
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Nothing he does is or ever was going to work against Wlad. He’s not in that league.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 11
Chagaev waking up again late in this round, and Povetkin looking very tired. Povetkin now firing heavy shots, including those uppercuts. And he’s neutering Chagaev yet again. When he throws, Chagaev turtles up pretty good. Right hand from Povetkin, but a bit off balance. Another right by Povetkin, that one partially blocked. Chagaev is far too content with where this fight is.
Povetkin 10-9
Povetkin 108-101
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Is the next fight worth sticking around for?
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
Sure, why not? You watched this.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey! be nice..they are both throwing punches at least…no broken toes…
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think this is too bad or anything, but if you watched this one, why not watch Helenius? He’s…fun-ish. And Finnish.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Finnish Finisher!
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but I dunno, heavyweight boxing is just not my thing… It’s not a horrible fight and yet I find myself bored
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
It’s not my thing either, believe me.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Povetkin vs Chagaev Round 12
Chagaev coming out to score a KO, so hey. Doubt he gets it, but hey. Speaking of Haye (hey!), I’d take him over Povetkin without thinking twice.
Povetkin just playing prevent defense this round. Hard to blame him — I think he’s well ahead and he and his corner do too. Povetkin with a little right hand as the fight winds down. Now throwing a few more punches. That keeps Chagaev at bay. 10 seconds! They both throw.
Chagaev 10-9
Povetkin 117-111
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Not my cup of lipstick.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really, no.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess you found the live stream, Pete
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by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
POVETKIN vs CHAGAEV OFFICIAL SCORES
116-112
117-113
117-113
Alexander Povetkin by unanimous decision
New WBA “regular” heavyweight titlist
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Still have Helenius vs Liakhovich coming.
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I'm on pins and needles
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Dang, you guys are hard to make happy…..this was a decent fight, I think more than decent.
Non stop action, Povetkin showed he could throw combinations and take hard shots….it wasn’t Tye Fields vs Kimbo Slice for chrissakes!
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Non stop action
You have a different definition of this than I do, but I’ve said often that I just don’t like heavyweight boxing. Also I’d rather watch recent Tye Fields fights than this. Fields has gotten fun in his old, realistic age.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
non stop action
How many times did the ref step in and break them out of a clinch? I didn’t see any.
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
How many times did they trade significant blows? Few. That’s action to me, not just the lack of clinching or referee intrusion.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And I thought the fight was fine, for the record. Nothing I’ll remember forever, but watchable.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right, it wasn't a bad scrap.
Not sure I would call it non-stop action though.
I guess I’m feeling a little pre-hurricane, heavyweight snark atm.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
plus I have seen Liakhovich in some mighting boring boxing matches before.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
er "mighty boring"
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Yeah but he WAS in the best heavyweight fight of the last decade, too. (IMO)
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The Brewster fight was good.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
My definition of “non stop” action is both guys are in there throwing until the end, see Marquez v. Diaz 1. This was a better heavyweight fight but there were plenty of rounds where one fighter was clearly taking it easy or off.
those guys weigh 100 pounds less
you’re not being realistic….HW’s don’t throw as many punches as the little guys…they just don’t. IMO
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by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, which is why some people don’t like the heavyweights. They’re not as exciting because they don’t punch as much.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
then I suppose in 1920 you would rather have watched Ty Cobb hit a single rather than see Babe Ruth hit a home run. I think that’s a decent comparison.
Why was Mike Tyson such a big draw? Because he could stop a guy with ONE punch. I love boxer as much as punchers, but crowds show up at a HW fight to see big guys throw big punches…not lots of punches. IMO.
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
then I suppose in 1920 you would rather have watched Ty Cobb hit a single rather than see Babe Ruth hit a home run. I think that’s a decent comparison.
They don’t hit many home runs anymore, and there sure as hell wasn’t one in this fight.
I know why people like the heavyweights. I just don’t. I also don’t like soccer or lobster and I’ve heard nine million times why I’m “wrong” about that, and still haven’t changed my own stance.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If I could have both, that would be ideal, but if forced to choose between a non-stop action fight without any huge punches and a boring fight with a few big exchanges (not saying this is what happened here, just in general), i’d take the non-stop action all the time
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
and if I think about baseball, I would DEFINITELY prefer a game with a bunch of hits than a game with one huge ass home run
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
Yeah, the heavyweight division isn’t filled with home runs anymore, it’s filled with a bunch of 2011 Adam Dunns.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That doesn’t mean they can’t land the same percentage and go at it until it’s over. If you’re talking about over a 12 round period then yeah, I think you are right. But there have been Heavyweight fights in the past that were true action packed fights. I’m just saying I wouldn’t call this one of them. Which is why the Heavyweight division is as popular as it is today.
This wasn’t Dempsey-Firpo for sure. The idea that the HW division isn’t poplular today is mostly a North American perception. Like it or not, the Eastern Europeans are very big sports figures in europe. Guys like Adamek are really admired. I spend a lot of time in Europe, if Haye had shown up to fight against Klit he would be HUGE in the UK.
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by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Heavyweight boxing popular or are Heavyweight boxers from those countries popular? That’s a serious question as I have never been to Europe
Lots of guys draw well in Germany, etc. Felix Sturm, Arthur Abraham, Jan Zaveck, so on. Lots of guys draw in the UK too. Tony Bellew is a draw. Boxing draws better there than in the U.S., it’s not just the heavyweights.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess my point in asking is this, if Abraham goes to an adjoining country that is in reasonable traveling distance will he draw that local fan base? It’s like when Ward fights in LA, not that big of a draw so you could argue that he is a regional favorite and not a fan favorite.
Not sure. One of our local readers might be able to answer that though.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Think about Froch, and Hatton, and Calzaghe. They stayed close to home, and drew big crowds there. However, they brought a lot of fans overseas….so does Abraham, who of course is Armenian…lot’s of Armenians everywhere.
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by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
They are popular because they are kicking American asses in the ring…but boxing was always a big sport in the former Soviet Union. And it’s big in the UK, Germany, and France. I’m not saying as big as soccer….nothing is THAT big…but it’s popular. Mikkal Kessler was voted most popular athlete in Denmark, for example.
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by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Kessler’s massive in Denmark. HUGE shares of the TV ratings when he fights.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, fuck. He really is going to fight Holyfield.
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Chris Mannix says a lot of things.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS IS FOR SCOTT
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haha
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
mmmmmmm
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I don’t get the appeal either. Give me some Chesapeake Bay blue crabs any day of the week over that.
Helenius vs Liakhovich Round 1
Helenius tentative to start. I don’t like how he looks. Can I say that without sounding like I’m being catty? I just don’t look at him and go, “Wow, now there’s a great fighter.”
fuck, I thought Liakhovich controlled this round.
Liakhovich 10-9
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Helenius struggled with Peter, too, before he knocked him out. So I won’t be surprised if this plays out in a similar fashion.
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Egads. Helenius’ jab is terrible. Good thing he has such a length advantage on Liakhovich or he’d stand a chance of getting lit up.
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It was fantastic."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Helenius’ hair is very West Virginia.
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He actually looks quite a lot like WVU head football coach Dana Holgorsen.
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It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
is his sister also his Aunt?
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by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Helenius vs Liakhovich Round 2
Outside of being out of shape, Liakhovich doesn’t look too bad in there. He’s clearly got more skills than Helenius, but it might not wind up mattering. Helenius is waiting too much and his jab stinks, but his power shots aren’t bad when he does throw them, and we know he packs a punch.
Helenius 10-9
19-19
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I’m not really paying that close attention but Liakhovich looks sharper, more accurate, and more active so I have him up 2-0, but whatever. The script says Liakhovich is supposed to give Helenius a scare and then suffer a knockout loss, right?
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
The script is more that HELENIUS IS THE FUTURE AND HE KNOCKED OUT FAT SAM PETER without mentioning that Peter gave him hell before that.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, you described MY script.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
and he’s 35 yrs old….what’s he been doing the past 5 yrs?
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by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Shitting around.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, fair enough, I see that now. Getting your nose busted up by that lazy-ass jab is actually kind of comedic.
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It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
nothing else on TV but the hurricane..
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by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Helenius vs Liakhovich Round 3
Helenius has such wide, looping punches. Liakhovich is largely picking them off, but I imagine sooner or later they start landing clean, and Helenius is able to walk Liakhovich down when he tries to do so. Liakhovich with some decent body work. Helenius really isn’t doing much as far as clean punching goes.
Liakhovich 10-9
Liakhovich 29-28
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id say 2-1 helenius so far
there was more contact in that round than before
Helenius vs Liakhovich Round 4
I can’t believe how easy it is for Liakhovich to put pressure on Helenius. Helenius marking up a bit. This just…ain’t much.
Liakhovich 10-9
Liakhovich 39-37
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The Stockholm Slaughterer!
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vs. the attention spans of everyone who’s watching!
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Erfurt
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
West Virginia
"In war, as in prostitution, the amateur is often better than the professional". Napoleon.
Maybe it's the skullet/receding hairlines on both but...
Separated at birth?
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Holgo is certainly a better football coach than Helenius is a boxer.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Helenius vs Liakhovich Round 5
Helenius’ standing needs to be reassessed and I’m definitely going to do so with the rankings on Monday. I don’t know that I think he’s actually better than Tyson Fury, for instance.
Helenius showing some life this round though, throwing big shots. But Liakhovich just keeps doing what he’s been doing, and his punches just plain look better, especially when he uses his left hook to the body. Helenius is getting closer on the home run punches and he’s being backed down a bit more this round. Definitely better from Helenius, but I wouldn’t call it a bad round for Liakhovich, really. Good round overall.
Helenius 10-9
Liakhovich 48-47
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that was a good round
damage inflicted by both sides, helenius had the white wolf backing up a couple times there 3-2 the nordic nightmare
Helenius vs Liakhovich Round 6
Helenius opens up, misses, Liakhovich comes back by punishing the body. Nice stuff from Sergei, really. But Helenius’ power is looking more and more like it’ll be the difference, I think. this is turning into a pretty good fight, really. Liakhovich staying busy when they get close, Helenius trying to bomb at range. Liakhovich is also trying to land an overhand right to get inside. Not a bad idea, but might get him creamed eventually. The right hand lands this time for Liakhovich, and I think he takes another good round.
Liakhovich 10-9
Likahovich 58-56
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Fury > Helenius
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Through seven, I definitely agree.
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by Scott Christ on Aug 27, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Helenius vs Liakhovich Round 7
Nice flurry in tight from Liakhovich, as he lets both hands go and knocks Helenius around a little bit. I like the body work Liakhovich has done, I like the jab he’s using at all the right times, and I like the way he’s keeping the right amount of distance from Helenius and taking away the power punches for the time being.
I’m going to say it: I really like this fight so far. This is good stuff.
More good body work by Liakhovich. Helenius is throwing the heavy shots, but Liakhovich just isn’t letting them land, and he’s throwing nice stuff back in combination too.
Liakhovich 10-9
Liakhovich 68-65
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white wolf up 4-3
he’s outworking helenius easily… but he looks exhausted
Helenius vs Liakhovich Round 8
Helenius is getting nothing handed to him in this fight, and honestly I think it’s a real credit to Sergei. Good right to the body by Helenius. He could have used that earlier, I think, but better late than never. Liakhovich back to the body himself. Heavy right upstairs from Heleniius. Helenius now looking for that right in counter, and he looks closer to timing Liakhovich than he has been thus far.
I LIKE THIS HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHT! I feel the need to do that.
Helenius now with a big flurry, and LIAKHOVICH IS DOWN!!!!! WOW! Big turnaround for Helenius! Bell ends the round!
Helenius 10-8
Liakhoivch 76-75
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oh my goodness
helenius 10-8
4-4 through 8, helenius up by 1 pt due to the knockdown
The script says Liakhovich is supposed to give Helenius a scare and then suffer a knockout loss, right?
GUYS I CAN SEE THE FUTURE.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Helenius vs Liakhovich Round 9
HUGE UPPERCUT BY HELENIUS, LIAKHOVICH ROCKED AND DOWN AND THIS IS OVER!!!!
Robert Helenius TKO-9
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And there it all goes. Helenius showed his weaknesses all the same. I can’t think of many top notch heavyweights he wouldn’t get schooled by.
I thought that was a really good fight. White Wolf fought well, Helenius had too much stamina and firepower. I would love to see Sergei get active again. He can still box.
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Helenius is not ready for either Klit….he has only 16 fights under his belt..
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by FrankinDallas on Aug 27, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
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