Kelly Pavlik Update: Loew Says No News On Next Move
by Scott Christ on Aug 31, 2011 10:54 PM EDT
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Joe Maxse of The Plain Dealer, one of the Ohio papers that has covered former middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik heavily since his rise to stardom a few years ago, says that trainer Jack Loew isn't sure what Pavlik will do next after earlier this month walking away from a ShoBox fight on August 6, and with it, a November 5 clash with Lucian Bute.
"It happened and it's over," said Jack Loew, Pavlik's lone trainer since age 9 out of his South Side Boxing Club. "It was totally Kelly's decision.
"I couldn't give you a yes or a no about what's going to happen. I haven't talked to Kelly since it was canceled. If he wants to fight, we'll move forward."
Loew was recently seen on ESPN Friday Night Fights as the trainer for Dannie Williams, a St. Louis-born and now Youngstown-based lightweight prospect who knocked out Antonio Cervantes in the fourth round on August 12. Loew is also busy training welterweight prospect Willie Nelson, a 6'3" project who lost badly in his last fight on April 8.
Pavlik, 29, is at this point not expected to fight again in 2011, but things can change quickly in boxing. It will be tough to get him back on TV, as he's bailed on both HBO and Showtime in the last two years, and has a reputation for being unreliable. The fighter has said he's willing to walk away from boxing if fights don't come to him on his terms.
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Can we all agree.....
That Pavlik not fighting is no longer news?
The only rules are, there are no rules
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by Scott Christ on Aug 31, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The fighter has said he’s willing to walk away from boxing if fights don’t come to him on his terms.
Where are these fights going to come from though, especially on his terms? There are plenty of boxers out there that will actually show up to fights. If Pavlik had gone through with his Cunningham fight he might have actually been in position to dictate terms.
Then again, it’s him who has to get punched in the head, so it’s up to him I guess. Personally I’d love to see him fight again.
I wonder why Loew has seen fit to announce that there’s nothing to announce? Has someone been asking?
I feel bad for Pavlik, I really do, because I’ve met and talked with literally several hundred people his age or younger, over the course of 11 years, who were trying to get a handle on the same problem. I know that it’s not their fault, I know that they can’t control what they do without enormous help, and I also know that it never, ever goes away.
I think that he won’t fight again.
Yeah, there are so many quite hopeless cases if you’re working with addicts. But there’s also a big number of people who make it. You just don’t come across that many of them as a professional ’cause usually you are exposed to quite the bottom of the hard cases..
Anyway I agree with the bad feeling about KP at this point. Megalomania combined with addiction is an as powerful as desastrous alliance.
"Sure, there have been injuries and deaths in boxing – but none of them serious." Alan Minter
You are correct. In addiction, data are always self-reported, so it’s virtually impossible to get independent and reliable data on abstinence rates. I came across two studies, 10 or 12 years ago, that pegged member-reported AA success (measured in complete abstinence after 3 years) at between 4% and 12 . But these were people still attending meetings, and didn’t account for the estimated 94 of clinically-diagnosed alcoholics who stop drinking (again, self-reported, for unspecified lengths of time) by themselves, and without help.
Anyway, back to the point, Pavlik is, I think, done with boxing.
That’s what I think. Have all along. Pakinpower once fanposted “Eyes Don’t Lie,” and they don’t, and there’s something about his, his whole expression, that long ago made me doubtful of his future.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
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