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Bad Left Hook Live Results and Coverage: Tim Coleman vs Vernon Paris on Friday Night Fights

Espn_292x292_medium Tonight's edition of Friday Night Fights is the third-to-last of the very successful 2011 season of the ESPN series, and is live at 9 p.m. EDT on ESPN2 and ESPN3.com.

The main event pits junior welterweights Tim Coleman (19-1, 5 KO, Baltimore) and Vernon Paris (24-0, 14 KO, Detroit) in a 10-rounder from the Chumash Casino in Santa Ynez, Calif., in a fight that in all honesty has a 50-50 shot of being an interesting battle or a style clash stinker.

Coleman, 27, hit a bit of a rough patch a few years ago when he drew journeyman Martinus Clay and lost to James de la Rosa, but he's come back from that fairly well. In his last four, he's beaten Clay, topped Mike Arnaoutis in a very controversial split decision, knocked out Patrick Lopez, and last time out defeated Sergio Rivera on April 29.

Paris, 23, is a fighter without any real peers in today's game, I'd say. He boxes in almost a hyper old-school manner, and pulls out crafty tricks of the trade that you just don't see anymore. He's mostly fought in the Michigan clubs, where he's beaten highly faded versions of Emanuel Augustus and Courtney Burton, and this will be his second trip to the Chumash. Last year, he had some real trouble in a fight with Juan Santiago, escaping with a split decision over eight rounds. Paris is by no means a polished product, and has had stamina issues in the past. He's had his issues over his career, too, with three no-contests all due to failed drug tests. And he fights with a bullet lodged in his back, which I'm sure Joe Tessitore and Sergio Mora will go further into.

And if you hadn't heard yet, Sergio Mora will be at the commentary table with Tessitore tonight, as Teddy Atlas is in Russia working with Alexander Povetkin for Povetkin's August 27 fight against Ruslan Chagaev.

Tonight's co-feature is a really interesting fight, in my opinion, between dormant former featherweight titlist Cristobal Cruz and upstart Art Hovhannisyan. Cruz (39-12-2, 23 KO) fights in a whirlwind style and is known for getting dirty if he has to, but hasn't fought 15 months and is moving up two divisions for this one. Hohvannisyan (14-0-1, 8 KO) beat the hell out of Archie Ray Marquez on ShoBox in June, bursting that prospect bubble and making one for himself.

Join us tonight!

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Does this mean a Sergio Mora fight plan tonight?!?

Evening! Wow it sounds like This time its personal! from the intro.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve really had enough of idiots saying they want to kill someone in the ring. Go ask someone it’s happened to about it, you morons.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed.

Its the quickest way to alienate a lot of people as well as just being a dumb and senseless thing to say.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Tim coleman lost me with “it is what it is” but won me right back with “I would like him to be the first man I beat to death in the ring.”

by Tysox88 on Aug 5, 2011 9:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That was a good line. This fight (I wasn’t expecting much) just got a little more interesting.

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was more intrigued by the "crackhead" comments.

Earlier today I tried to google what Paris had tested positive for and couldn’t find it. I’m glad he was forced to address the issue in the intro.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s addressed it before. I don’t think it was ever really a secret

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I tried to google it and couldn't find it.

I’m usually pretty good at googling too, so I’m sure I wasn’t the only one.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s always been pretty open about it. He’s a pretty honest dude.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

love this matchup

I really, really love this matchup. I’m expecting a real good fight with this one.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Mora is not a natural behind the mic

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

No, he’s not. I think he’s smart and a fine analyst, but he can improve.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

It seems like he’s going to turn his commentary into everything somehow relating to Sergio Mora.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least we might not hear about how neither of these fighters have “old-school fundamentals” this week.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it would really help cruz if he could be vitali klitschko

by Dave109 on Aug 5, 2011 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Cruz. Good round though. Art doesn’t look fazed by Cruz’s work though, which is good. Very composed.

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Cruz vs Hovhannesyan Round 1

Rough trade of shots as they tie up in close. Hovhannesyan looks physically bigger than Cruz, not unexpected. Fairly quiet first two minutes, both feeling it out. Cruz not going into his usual ridiculous wild offense. Hovhannesyan warned for pushing off. Feel-out round.

Hovhannesyan 10-9

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell of a right hand from Cruz there.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Hohvannesyan getting his chin tested.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not convinced Cruz has the pop at this weight to truly test Art’s chin. He can,however, be kept honest and outworked.

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

“He” being Art in this case.

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, let me rephrase that.

He’s eating some really square and visually impressive looking hooks to the chin. ;)

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delvin

Is doing a great job….seems more comfy ringside than in the studio, as I suppose could be expected.

Also kudos to Coleman….the last person I saw wearing O’s gear on national tv was Ed Norton.

by Andy82 on Aug 5, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s Sergio Mora, not Delvin.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how many of those right hands its going to take for Hovhannisyan to pick his left hand up.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be a change of style for him. He's always been there to hit. But, yeah, it would seem to be a good idea.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cruz vs Hovhannisyan Round 2

Here comes Cruz now. Coming right in. Big right by Cruz! Head low, wild overhand right, lands hard. Another one gets in. Hov wants a counter right on Cruz’s lunges, but he hasn’t timed it yet. BIG right by Cruz, but Hov counters back and staggers Cruz a little! This is the fight I was expecting. I like that Art is trying to counter — I think eventually he can catch Cruz bad with that. And he’s stinging Cruz now with good shots. Now we’re heating up.

Cruz 10-9
19-19

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Hov slipped a wild right but didn’t answer. I bet he makes him pay next time.

by Tysox88 on Aug 5, 2011 9:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

HovHannisyan’s jab sucks, and for a guy who holds his hands where he does, he needs to be flicking that jab like a serious weapon.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

It really does suck. I don't mean to stereotype, but Armenia fighters, while tough as saddle leather, aren't known for their jabs.

Hohvannesyan sort of fits with the unorthodox in and out awkward style I associate with Vic, etc.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cruz vs Hovhannisyan Round 3

Cruz finds that right again. Not square this time, but that lunging, overhand right is there for him. Right hand by Hovhannisyan. Right by Cruz, sneaky one in close. Now he’s targeting the body, and Art counters. Hov seems to have started to read Cruz’s charges a little better this round, small adjustment but a big one given that Cruz isn’t exactly a flexible stylist. Left hook by Cruz, now Art with an uppercut. Both guys throwing with real intent this round. Cruz’s right hand blocked this time.

Cruz 10-9
Cruz 29-28

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Cruz 10-9, 30-27 same. It’s not that Art is being beaten up, but he’s being outworked every round, and he isn’t landing enough impactful shots to overcome that.

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Cruz just looks a different class so far…

Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.

by Dafs on Aug 5, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Hovhannisyan’s style is awful for his skillset, its really turning me off. He could win this fight if he wasn’t fighting himself.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Cruz vs Hovhannisyan Round 4

Art just not doing enough offensively thus far, and Cruz is starting to really take over in terms of eye-catching shots landed. Hovhannisyan just isn’t establishing anything. Hov now with some counters, but there’s a stiff right from Cruz. Good stuff. Right hand by Cruz again. Now Hov shoves him into the corner and headbutts, referee doesn’t step in, Cruz waits too long, and he’s cut, AND it’s getting wild! Bad cut. Bad cut on Cruz. Ugh.

Fight stopped.

Cruz 10-9
Cruz 39-37

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I have Cruz up 4-0. Shame it ends. That cut looks bad, but not in a bad place. I’m surprised they didn’t finish the round and let the corner work on it.

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh man, that was just was a decent scrap, and I don’t like scoring the fight with that little time elapsed.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Me either. California REALLY needs to get rid of that. It’s awful.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh!!.

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh. That sucks.

What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.

by lowellthehammer on Aug 5, 2011 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone think we'll see a draw?

First and fourth for Art?

What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.

by lowellthehammer on Aug 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could happen, but I really don’t think he won anything but maybe the first.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see that

I wouldn’t agree with it, but I can see it

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I don’t usually question stoppages, but that looks like a perfectly workable cut.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

does.

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like the way this worked out. Cruz probably gets the decision in a fight that was just warming up.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Disappointing for Cruz, but more disappointing for Art if he loses his undefeated record on a TD-4

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boy it’s four rounds and they’re taking forever to score it.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Just hope for a draw…

Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.

by Dafs on Aug 5, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cruz vs Hovhannisyan Scores

39-37 Cruz
39-37 Hovhannisyan
38-38

Draw

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

YES! Justice for both fighters…

Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.

by Dafs on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 rounds for Art is crazy.

What everyone needs to do is calm down, take a deep breath, and prepare their bodies for the Thunderdome.

by lowellthehammer on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh — I don’t think those scores are right, but it’s sort of the just outcome

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I knew it.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, I didn't like that card for Hohvannesyan, but I do like how it was scored in terms of overall fairness

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone had a card for Hovhannisyan, talk about leaving a bad taste for what could have been a perfectly decent fight.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they came up with the draw idea real quick at the end there

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

took them a long time.

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

So everyone loses points in the pick em?

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it’s a wash.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pavlik has a weak face. He just does.

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m tired of Pavlik and his excuses and stories. Just fight if you still want to fight. If not, say so and have a nice life

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Jack Loew is really, really laying it down in every interview right now. It’s pretty eye-opening. He’s the guy who’s not making excuses anymore. To me, that’s a good friend.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. He said he looks out for Pavlik like if he’s his son. And it shows

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather see Glen Johnson vs. Lucian Bute anyway, the Road Warrior deserves that payday 5 times before Kelly Pavlik deserves what he considers “peanuts”

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Johnson would be a good test for Bute

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice name-dropping of the “WBC” there from Sergio Mora…

Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.

by Dafs on Aug 5, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Mora telling it like it is

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, big weight mismatch in the swing bout here.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t see — what was it?

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Terry is coming up from bantam

and only made it to 129, I’m pretty sure Faragon is a full-sized lightweight.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant featherweight, always get those two mixed up.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Terry has fought all over the map and looked awful in his last fight. He just isn’t very good.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

he certainly wasn’t going to look any better fighting above his weight.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was at 129 last time, he was at 133 the fight before that. He’s just not a very good fighter and handles pressure terribly.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just hard to tell anything about a prospect.

From a fight like that, isn’t even really as useful as a decent sparring session.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s probably going to be hard to tell anything about Faragon until they finally step him up too far and he gets hammered.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it was “one body shot” after about a half a minute of low blows (which is actually a decent strategy).

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

body shots are killing terry

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Body shot TKO. Nicely done.

by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 5, 2011 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

and dat be dat, to quote my favorite boxing knickname.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Not big on Faragon at all, for the record.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

The one thing I was able to see

was that he shelled up way too much for the minimal offense coming in. If he fights someone with some firepower, I don’t think Faragon will be able to get off at all.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

135 is a weak division

But given that, with his amateur background, he’s only had 16 fights in 4 years, he doesn’t have much power, and he’s still fighting guys like this in 6 rounders, I’m not exactly ready to sing his praises.

Plus, he was getting tagged a lot there.

by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 5, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He seems like a typical NE US prospect to me. Coddled, can’t really punch, and will eventually get whomped when they step him up.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if Matt Remillard is a rich man’s anyone.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Brian Kenny just go poof?

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s been on occasionally. I think they’ve got him doing stuff people care about. hate to put it that way, but, well.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wow. They really do look a lot alike.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah. thanks.

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

reply to Scott

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, wait. Coleman was wearing a Yankees hat in the interview, and now he’s wearing an Orioles shirt?

Okay, screw this guy, I want Paris to punch him repeatedly in the liver. You can’t root for two teams in the same division!

by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 5, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s a guy with a Reds hat on the team, too. His hat and shirt and discussing the Frank Robinson trade as we speak.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Coleman

has made me want to see him get knocked out quicker than any boxer they’ve put a mic in front of in awhile.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like to watch Paris fight, but he's never really faced a challenge.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve seen him face challenges. They weren’t supposed to be, but…

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, his shiny record is thin gruel if you scratch the surface.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The millions watching around the world? Really?

Still searching for an alive Dan Tucker.

by Dafs on Aug 5, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

So the hype of Roger and Floyd Mayweather being here…is just hype. Neither showed up.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Sergio Mora is hoping this won’t be a boring chess match.

Not quite Roy Jones level lack of awareness, but Sergio Mora’s Madden Awareness isn’t too high.

by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 5, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I do think elongated, weird analogizes are the best Teddy tribute of all

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, ‘m really liking Coleman’s counter right hand too, he throws it immediately when Paris is dropping his left.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

if they’d never put a mic in front of him I’d be raving about his technique.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coleman vs Paris Round 1

Potshot battle! Coleman’s counter right is the best punch of the round, but Paris has moments, too. Pretty even so far.

10-10

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

was coleman wobbled there?

by Dave109 on Aug 5, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman 10-9, but I wish it didn’t cut to the commercial right away, because it looked like Coleman got tagged right at the end and I wasn’t able to see how much it affected him

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Good first round

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Thought USBA title fights were supposed to be 12 rds?

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

They’ve changed it so that a lot of the minor belts are 10 round fights now. USBA, NABF, etc. They figured, hey, nobody cares.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coleman making sure to not do the things that were working for him in the first round. Good thing too, I was almost ready to like his fighting style.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

lol, lands the counter right for a knockdown as a type it, what a jerk.

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Coleman vs Paris Round 2

Coleman landing better quality shots inside. BIG RIGHT HAND AND PARIS TOUCHES DOWN! That’s a knockdown on the glove touch. Good shot by Coleman. If he keeps timing that thing that way, he’s going to take control of this fight in a big way. Paris comes back firing, though. Nice left hook by Coleman inside.

Coleman 10-8
Coleman 20-18

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

10-8 Coleman, 20-17

Paris is doing some nice work, but not enough to salvage a 10-9 after the flash knockdown.

by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 5, 2011 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s a question: Say you’re a fighter and you go down on a flash knockdown early in the round (and you’re not hurt at all). It’s still early in the fight. What’s your strategy for the rest of the round?

I say just spend the whole round going to the body. It’s not flashy, but the round’s gone anyway so you might as well try and do long-term damage.

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d say, if not hurt, try your best to make it a 10-9 round

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coleman 10-8, 20-17 same

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope Hulk Hogan falls out of a helicopter

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Paris is hurting him to the body.

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Paris making a nice little push now with those body punches.

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by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Good little fight so far

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman giving the round away falling in love with the punch that got him a knockdown.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Warming up now...

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by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Paris making a decent defensive adjustment staying away from that right hand now, even though he refuses to defend with his left.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Almost caught another one near the end o the round though.

I still think Coleman will gas out/succumb to body shots over the course of the next few rounds.

by Jim America on Aug 5, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

10-9 Paris, 29-27 Coleman

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman vs Paris Round 3

Coleman looks good, but then Paris comes back with some nice pressure with Coleman on the ropes. Paris taking control there, and a body shot hurt Coleman. This is, I’ll admit, a better fight than I expected. Nice tactical clash instead of the stinker it could have been. Left hook by Coleman hurts Paris a lot. Paris with good shots and coleman is starting to show some dislike of all that business. But Coleman ties up, breaks, and comes back with his own offense.

Paris 10-9
Coleman 29-28

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll say this about Coleman, he makes the most of his skills, he’s the product of some really solid training.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Did the ref tell Paris to “stop taunting”? Since when is taunting illegal?

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

“talking” — some refs think they need to be high school principals.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea…….it’s your jaw

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

taunting or talking?

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he said “stop talking”, and boxers chatting in the ring does tend to make refs cranky (can easily start a chain of events that ends with the ref losing control of the fight).

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coleman vs Paris Round 4

Coleman digging HARD to the body, but Paris fires back. This has turned into a real good fight — I LOVE a good chess match like this, a good tactical dust-up, and this is one. Paris loves those body shots. Right to the body, then a shot to the head. Paris jabbing. BIG left hook by Coleman counters a right. Paris talks, referee tells him to stop. YOU stop talkin’, referee! FIRE IT UP!

Good fight so far.

Coleman 10-9
Coleman 39-37

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Coleman, 39-36 same

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t see the Mosley fight (thank god), but you didn’t beat Vera. I’m sorry, but you didn’t.

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

he didn’t beat Mosley either. One guy tried to make that shit-stain of a fight and it was Mosley. Mora ran around the ring and refused to engage. I can never, ever see that fight in Mora’s favor. He did nothing.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shut the fuck up Mora. I had got use to you right now. Than you spit that nonsense.

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman can’t lead, Paris is taking over the fight by making him try, but its turning it ugly.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Kind of a dour crown for a rather entertaining scrap

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by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

They put mid-level Baltimore and Detroit fighters in California. TV money fight and nothing more.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but still. This crowd is lame.

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by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean the ring girls seem more into it than anyone, really

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by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m wondering if this fight might not look so great live.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant crowd

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by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they came for the Cruz fight.

by Tysox88 on Aug 5, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

10-9 Paris, 48-46 Coleman

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman vs Paris Round 5

Paris having a really good round here and starting to lay into Coleman pretty well. Coleman’s stamina looks awful, which is usually what you say about Paris by round five.

Paris 10-9
Coleman 48-47

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

One touch glove to many already.

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman’s shots that were nice and short to start the fight are getting loopier and loopier, and with his lack of power, he needs to find something in his arsenal he probably doesn’t have to win this fight.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

that was one of the more egregious rope grabs I’ve seen in awhile.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice stuff by Paris

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman is exhausted

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

yea, those body shots are killing him

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paris walking the fine line between not letting Coleman off the hook and not punching himself out. Very nice work.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

This isn’t going much longer

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Paris needs to keep focusing on that body

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman vs Paris Round 6

Paris with a good right inside, Coleman comes back swinging. Good shots by Paris again! Big flurry and Coleman ties up! Coleman’s stamina is waning badly. Paris with another big flurry! Another big left! Coleman in big trouble! Paris giong for the finish but Coleman staying up, which is surprising because he is gassed out in there. BIG BODY SHOT AND DOWN GOES COLEMAN, AND HARD! What a body shot! Coleman is up, but this fight has probably changed irreversibly. this is ALL Vernon Paris now. Paris not rushing at him. Another body shot in the corner. DOWN HE GOES AGAIN ON A LEFT HOOK TO THE BODY! What a round for Vernon Paris!

Coleman will survive the round, but he’s finished.

Paris 10-7
Paris 57-55

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

10-7 Paris, 56-55 same

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

10-7 Paris, 56-55 Paris

Two body shot knockdowns in one round. Me likey.

by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 5, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

S

Saved by the bell

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

upstairs downstairs — love it

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep going to that body

by DPlainview on Aug 5, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

head bawdy head

mark whalberg style

I hate the Texans

by battle axe of doom on Aug 5, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

That was some beautiful body work. Good fight too

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Coleman vs Paris Round 7

ANOTHEr BODY SHOT, DOWN GOES COLEMAN, AND IT IS OVER!

Vernon Paris TKO-7

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice. Very nice.

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm psychic!
Okay, screw this guy, I want Paris to punch him repeatedly in the liver. You can’t root for two teams in the same division!

by Verklemptomaniac on Aug 5, 2011 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Tim Coleman goes and congratulates the other team, with people worried about what was gonna go down there — good for Coleman. He fought hard.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Paris showed some power there that I didn’t know he had. I liked how he stayed focused on the body after the initial damage. I underestimate him.

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by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Once he settled in, he looked more disciplined and controlled than we’ve seen in the past.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good fight, great ending.

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Took Paris a long time to finally make it on national television. Hopefully he stays there now

All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.

by Eugene Banks on Aug 5, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

FNF had at least as many good fights this season as HBO and Showtime.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I actually enjoyed myself more with FNF so far, all things considered (such as crap scoring and one-sided showcase fights).

I also really like the FNF crowd for these threads. It’s much more fun being able to chat with you all.

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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice win for Paris. Pretty good FNF, but could have been really good if we would have seen a proper end to Hohvannesyan/Cruz.

Hats off to the FNF people for putting together another respectable card.

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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Paris is still quite young

I’m hoping he gets back on track, because he’s very skilled and talented. The head has always been the issue.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 5, 2011 10:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Called that ending in Round 3.

Had to be dickish before I left. Thanks for providing the lounge for the party, BLE. Hands up, chin down, boys.

by Jim America on Aug 5, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

That's not dickish, or if it is, I'm guilty too.

Cheers.

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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

my two favorites were definitely Melligan-Lujan and of course Rodriguez-Wolak, but there were some other quality scraps, enjoyed talking about it with you guys/gals, until next time!

by Quickhooks on Aug 5, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

The season opener with Provodnikov vs. Herera was a lot of fun.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Aug 5, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s still two more weeks of official FNF, guys. Next week has Kermit Cintron, week after has whatever they come up with to replace Herrera-Provodnikov II.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate to see it end. FNF has become a weekly fun thread.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This has really been the best FNF season in recent memory

by schraubd on Aug 5, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. So many more competitive fights than usual. So few true shit main events.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 5, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something Rafael said today, I think, they had more money this year. Can’t hurt.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Aug 5, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The $50K full budget still is peanuts for a card. That’s what Kelly Pavlik just turned down to fight Cunningham, which is also the full Shobox budget.

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by Scott Christ on Aug 6, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to throw it in there

I missed the card, but Cruz is one of my favorite fighters out there. I love to see a guy who manages his way to the top, against all odds, purely on dedication and being willing to do what his opponents won’t. His fight against Thomas Mashaba was ridiculous – I thought he lost the fight, but he won by averaging about 120 punches a round. Anyway, I hope he can get his career back on track. When in shape, he poses problems for just about anyone, even though he has almost zero skills.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 6, 2011 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

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