Jim Rome Discusses Mayweather vs Ortiz and Manny Pacquiao
Jim Rome weighed in on the controversial fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr and Victor Ortiz. You can listen to the podcast here, but this is the part I wanted to point out. Transcript thanks to Zach Arnold of FightOpinion, who saved me the time of typing, which is a real bum part of blogging:
"Mayweather, meanwhile, not only wasn’t apologizing for how he won, he actually thought it was good for business. As long as you’re looking at him and talking about him, he’s happy.
‘Hey man, I’m good. Controversy is okay. Nothing wrong with some controversy to get people talking. It’s all good.’
"Yeah, it’s all good… for you. Now go ask the million-plus who dropped crazy jack for that PPV if they think it’s all good because I’m guessing a good chunk of them don’t. They wanted to see a clean, natural ending to that fight, not you clocking a guy while he was still apologizing and not prepared to defend himself. Again, it may have been legal, but it wasn’t clean and fight fans got jammed yet again and they’re bent and I can see why. I mean, when was the last time you threw for a PPV card and actually felt like you got your money’s worth?
"As far as the fight that would be worth your money, Mayweather insists that he doesn’t need Pacquiao."
I, too, was incredibly bent about getting jammed after dropping crazy jack for that PPV. I threw for this PPV, and here I am, all upset. Business as usual!
Who the hell talks like this?
Anyway, Rome probably speaks for a good portion of the audience, but I don't know that it's the portion of the audience he believes it is.
As for his last question, "Whe was the last time you threw for (God...) a PPV card and actually felt like you got your money's worth?" I can only say this: I cannot remember the last time a majority of the paying audience was happy about a major pay-per-view. I can answer Rome's question for myself very quickly by saying "the Maidana vs Morales show in April," but Jim Rome didn't care about that and to be entirely fair to him, apparently boxing fans didn't either since about 16 people dropped crazy jack on it. I can say that I don't remember anyone feeling as though they got jammed after throwing for that one, however.
But for Pacquiao or Mayweather shows? There's always a problem. Let's run down the recent streak, in chronological order:
Pacquiao vs De La Hoya: Horrific, all-time worst garbage undercard. Legitimate, valid criticism, by the way. That undercard still insults me to this day.
Pacquiao vs Hatton: Two-round main event.
Mayweather vs Marquez: 76-round main event, or at least it felt like it.
Pacquiao vs Cotto: Actually, were any of you bent about this one? Were you feeling jammed? I thought it was a good fight. It did have that Godawful Julio Cesar Chavez Jr undercard snoozer though.
Pacquiao vs Clottey: Grandmaster Josh does the turtle for 12 rounds and bores the world to tears.
Mayweather vs Mosley: Got one-sided real fast.
Pacquiao vs Margarito: It had Margarito. For many, this is a big issue.
Pacquiao vs Mosley: Really? Mosley again? The huggin' and glove tappin' really got me bent. Enough already. This was a familiar complaint.
Mayweather vs Ortiz: Well, this time a guy tried to hug too many times and got socked in the chin for it. This apparently also is a crime. WE CAN NEVER WIN WITH YOU PEOPLE!
What do I mean, "You people?"
Look, though, seriously: Outside of Pacquiao vs Cotto, every single one of these shows was bitched about the next day, the next week, beforehand, whatever, for various reasons. And yet the same people buy the next one, apparently, because they keep selling.
There is a good argument, I guess, that it's definitely not the ending people paid to see. But how could it have been? Who would have thought this was even a possibility going in? Did anyone have money on this? If so, they made crazy jack from throwing that. But I get what he means with that. Still, if Mayweather had done what most expected -- won an easy, wide 12-round decision -- what's the upside? People would still be bitching about wasting their money on another one-sided fight, and by today nobody would care about what happened Saturday at all.
So I understand the "I'll never buy a pay-per-view again! Not for that crazy jack!" sort of people, but (1) they probably will, and (2) we've heard it all before.
Rome had plenty more to say about Mayweather vs Pacquiao, drug testing, how he feels that Victor Ortiz did sort of get what he had coming, and more. It's a good listen if you can stomach Rome being Rome, and by now I'm sure you're all familiar with Jim Rome, so you know what I mean. And if not, don't get bent at me for not warning you.
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jesus christ
Did you feel your IQ drop while typing all of those rome-isms?
Manning out for season + Texans "improved" defense = Texans AFC South Division CHAMPS
by battle axe of doom on Sep 20, 2011 8:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
As I was reading Rome' rant
I thought the same, probably the Maidana/Morales card, although I didn’t “drop any crazy jack” on that fight, i just went to the pub…
+ 1
I especially loved the part the “16 people dropped crazy jack” on the Morales/Maidana card hahahahaa
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
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Pacquiao-Cotto was such a good fight though
by Leon Cris Gamboa on Sep 20, 2011 8:39 AM EDT reply actions
It’s a little too easy to rip Rome for being “Rome.” But, the guy has a massive radio audience and is a rarity among syndicated national shows in that it at least pays occasional attention to boxing. He routinely makes an effort to think outside the box in booking guests. Yesterday, he spent a third of his show interviewing Merchant and Lampley and talking boxing.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Sep 20, 2011 8:54 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Man, I wonder how people felt after ordering all of those Mike Tyson PPV's???
"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option
If you're not first, you're last
I mean, people didn't have a problem throwing down $50 bucks for a Tyson fight that lasted 20 sec
"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option
If you're not first, you're last
I was super-young
During Tyson’s run, but I remember a lot of people having problems with that. Of course, the internet has the echo chamber effect of making it more noticeable now, but the same “I’ll never buy one of his fights again! …okay, maybe just one more” dynamic was present.
But you know what they say: you can’t please all the people all the time, and Saturday night all those people were in Las Vegas.
50% more Ultimate than the leading competitor.
It was probably cheaper back then
Manning out for season + Texans "improved" defense = Texans AFC South Division CHAMPS
by battle axe of doom on Sep 20, 2011 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not much cheaper and not in HD
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
And I also notice how he didn't even mention Victor Ortiz's malicious headbutt that started all of this.
"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option
If you're not first, you're last
I love how people hate this ending in boxing
It’s funny because if players stop playing in any other sport simply because they thought they heard a whistle or didn’t know play resumed it’s the fault of the defensive players. If a player slips or is not ready when play is back in session and the offensive team (or player) takes advantage and scores while the other team was napping the defensive player gets roasted by everyone. In no other sport (except maybe MMA) would people have this much outrage. There is great hypocrisy in fans when it comes to their blood lust.
As much as I love MMA, no other fan base can ever compete in terms of outrage over “honor” or sportsmanship. We’re day-to-day with hurt feelings. We’ve had the same discussion several times, usually when somebody either doesn’t touch gloves or throws right away after they do.
50% more Ultimate than the leading competitor.
It's weird
In MMA Marquardt/Palhares kind of ended in a similar way, and people loved it. But MMA fans are RIPPING Floyd just like everybody else.
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by Neil Manich on Sep 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's just the hate factor...
We all know that Floyd is the least to blame for this fight. But I thought to myself after the KO that the general media will have a field day pinning this on him. It’s sickening, but that’s the world we live in.
Part of ordering any fight is you never know how long it will last
it’s part of the risk you take. It can be 12 rounds, it can be a first round knock out.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Pacquiao v. Hatton: $10 per minuteoof fighting for the main event.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
That’s why there is an undercard. It’s just a bummer when that disappoints too. Or never really had a chance of being that good.
Also, go away Allen Lopez.
by tkeithwhite on Sep 20, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i have no problems with a quick KO
I just want to see a legitimate clean fight. Not a sucker punch disgrace. In fact, I’d rather see a 1 or 2 round KO in the main event than a 12 round decision. I have a huge preferences for finishes, both in boxing and MMA. Decisions always carry some measure of subjectivity. Finishes usually don’t.
When time is in there is no such thing as a sucker punch
This “legal sucker punch” stuff needs to stop.
Just came back from a little trip to watch this and I don’t get where the contraversy is coming from.
Didn’t Ortiz watch May v Mosley???
And ofc Cortez is still a liability.
All the rest is just haters hating.
Complaining about this ending is short-term thinking. This is the sort of thing that people remember. Like Tyson biting Holyfield’s ear or Golota playing speed bag with Bowe’s nuts. For the MMA crowd, it’s Silva clowning around for 3 rounds against Maia and Starnes running away from Quarry. That last one turned a throwaway undercard fight into something that people remember for the sheer absurdity of it.
The fight was headed to a dominant Mayweather decision or KO by right-hand-lead attrition. Instead, you got an absurd clusterfuck ending that people are still talking about days after the event.
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Man I wish Jim Everett got a chance to actually kick Jim Rome’s ass
by OmarLittle on Sep 20, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
You mean Chris Everett?
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Undercard quality
The undercard of this fight was one of the best I have seen in a while. Every fight was good and entertaining even with the strange endings for the last two fights.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
All I know of Rome is a video on youtube, in which he gets attacked by some football player.
I read this three times, and each time is sounded like demented raving.
Is this how sports generally get reported?
I toture myself by watching espn all day following a big boxing weekend. It’s the same drivel every time. " this is the problem with boxing", “boxing is dead”, “pacman vs money may” etc etc
Manning out for season + Texans "improved" defense = Texans AFC South Division CHAMPS
by battle axe of doom on Sep 20, 2011 2:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank you for the reality check.
I understand how people can get extraordinarily absorbed by sports, because I’m that way with boxing. And I’ve read, and continue to read, the material about boxing written elsewhere. I think that most of the stuff is pretty loony, but that’s just me.
The boxing universe really is filled with the late, breaking news about Pacquiao and Mayweather, isn’t it? That’s why this is the only site I’ve ever joined, besides a science site.
For me although the end was a bit disappointing, the quality of the undercard made it worthwhile. I thought that the four rounds we saw were about as compelling as the first four of Manny v Cotto and a lot more interesting than most of the other fights listed above. The most we pay in the UK though is £15, which during most exchange rates does not equate to being ‘crazy jack’.
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
I've been thinking:
I’m bent about getting jammed for throwing crazy jack… in my head all day. Awesome writing.
+1
This article and the comments just make me laugh out loud, seriously
Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.
I don’t think I want to get jammed, because I’m not sure what this means but it doesn’t sound pleasant or very comfortable. And I don’t know Jack, so I’m not inclined to throw him, because this doesn’t sound very enticing either.
I’m in my head all day and all night, though, so I’m down with that (whatever I just said).

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