Oscar De La Hoya Dangles Comeback as Bait for Mayweather to Rematch Ortiz

by Scott Christ on Sep 27, 2011 11:16 PM EDT in Boxing News Analysis

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This is all just getting kind of ridiculous and silly. Tonight on Twitter, Oscar De La Hoya responded to continued taunting by Floyd Mayweather Jr about both himself and Victor Ortiz by trying to dangle himself as the carrot, using a potential comeback and his own rematch with Mayweather to get Floyd to rematch Ortiz:

(1) It's so sad mayweather has to bash people and flaunt money he's not going to when he retires.give Ortiz a rematch.try beat him fair... (2) And then maybe just maybe i will give you [another] chance at me.

Mayweather and De La Hoya set the all-time PPV record in 2007, which still easily stands to this day and is in no danger of being broken any time soon, and were set for a 2008 rematch before Mayweather suddenly retired. I maintain my theory that they gauged a sincere lack of public interest in the rematch and Mayweather headed down the old dusty trail instead -- not that there wasn't still money in it, but was there enough?

That, of course, led to Oscar De La Hoya seeking a replacement opponent for his ill-fated and ill-advised return to 147 pounds, and Manny Pacquiao wound up the insane choice from left field who many didn't take seriously and then beat Oscar into a pulp and retired him that December. In some ways, because Mayweather pulled out of that rematch, Manny Pacquiao got the chance to become the star he is today. Floyd has only himself to blame, in a way, for Pacquiao becoming a superstar and the name hounding him constantly in the press.

I have absolutely no interest in another Mayweather vs De La Hoya fight personally, because Oscar has been retired for three years and was a part-time fighter for years before that. He really hasn't been a full-time guy since 2003, and even by then he was starting to lose his way as a fighter because he was worth so much money and had other outside interests. It's not a fault, really, but a flaw -- he's not going to come back and be good enough to truly compete with Floyd Mayweather Jr. Sorry, it's just not going to happen. It would be an exhibition and greed-grab, nothing more.

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Kind of ridiculous and silly?

by El Destruyo on Sep 27, 2011 11:17 PM EDT reply actions

right! ha

this is getting dumb. look, people dont think the end of the fight was “proper” or whatever but oh well. i dont see the intrigue for the rematch. i know it didnt satisfy people or whatever but it was DECISIVE. people have to learn to deal with it and move on.

also, i like what floyd said on twitter “Does Victoria Ortiz want another rematch because he thinks he can win or does he want another payday?”

o yea… and fwiw there is absolutely no way oscar gets back in a boxing ring with gloves and trunks on with mayweather in the other corner. this is just as dumb as 99% of all the other dumb shit oscar tweets. “i will give you another chance at me” ? what?! did he forget he lost?

anyway… i HATED ortiz after the maidana fight. gave him a ton of respect after the berto fight and even openly asked “am i a victor ortiz fan now?” now i seriously cant stand the guy and want to be rid of him. did he become a star with this 24/7 and fight? i dont know. i know the crowd was very pro him. but it seems every boxing i know besides the very very very pro manny crowd thinks the guy is a dunce and cant stand him. i wonder what the casual fan consensus is towards him. but the golden boy act that there are bigger and better things out there besides berto for him is a little… strange.

anyway. i dont want to see mayweather ortiz 2.. at all.. let floyd fight someone else of note. khan berto (or the filipino guy hes isnt fighting next and we all know it, although i am kinda wondering if negotiations will intensify after the manny jmm fight.)

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by Eddie Gonzalez on Sep 27, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions

people have to learn to deal with it and move on

Says who? They don’t. They’ve got a perfect right to want it, and if you don’t want to watch, then don’t.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Those words are usually synonymous with Oscar De La Hoya in my experience.

Bob Arum would promote Lucifer himself if he could put asses in the seats.

by Apprentice on Sep 28, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions

When he fought me, pfft, I was done. Come on man, I was an old man then.

—Oscar De La Hoya (Rick James was right….)

So if you were done then, what are you now?

So you’re gonna come out of retirement if Mayweather fights Ortiz again-like right away?

We don’t believe you, you need more people.

—Shawn Carter

Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses. --The Knockout Mechanism.

by battlestar on Sep 27, 2011 11:32 PM EDT reply actions

i really feel like oscar might still be on coke

by nickfoxx on Sep 28, 2011 1:50 AM EDT reply actions

Oscar is not a fool

He is working…and doing a good job ….at getting or keeping his fighter inline to make some serious moolah. that is his job.

if you want to see a fool, look at dibella. he has a great fighter and he can’t even sell tickets.

fighterhires a promoter to promote. My bet is that Ortiz is an appreciative fighter. today

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Sep 28, 2011 2:05 AM EDT reply actions

Actually the fool would be Martinez for re-signing with him

out of “loyalty.”

by tacklerford on Sep 28, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Martinez was plucked pretty much out of total obscurity by DiBella. Whether Lou made him or just finally gave Sergio the chance to make himself, he wouldn’t be a legit world champion without Lou (or someone like him). I’m not saying Sergio made the right move staying with DiBella. I just wouldn’t wave the word fool around lightly.

by El Destruyo on Sep 28, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions

How about we split the difference

and say he made an honorable but bad business decision.

by tacklerford on Sep 28, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions

yes

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions

some people need to get a sense of humor, and I don’t mean you, Pakin

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions

I feel bad for Oscar...

He seems really really desperate. I guess they banked on Ortiz being their golden goose for making big bucks. Oscar just has to realize that he has damaged goods and Ortiz fudged up in his last fight. It’s funny that golden boy promotions unfortunately doesn’t have a golden boy.

Either they wait out the rest of the fights at the end of the year… Or take the Berto fight.

by Clove_art on Sep 28, 2011 2:54 AM EDT reply actions

They have Mares

The cock ~~puncher~~ fighter. He may be the next golden ~~goose~~ boy.

by tacklerford on Sep 28, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions

remark was meant tongue-in-cheek, i’m sure.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2011 8:24 AM EDT reply actions

It was

I actually like Mares. It’s probably because he’s only a bantamweight, but I don’t know why they don’t put more stock behind him. His story is pretty damn compelling as well and he’s the only in-house Golden Boy fighter to come up through the ranks and win a championship regardless of the questionable refereeing.

by tacklerford on Sep 28, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Maybe that should say something about Oscar’s priorities. He might need a consultant to help him out or something. Because tweetting and trying to smack talk FMJ into a rematch that Ortiz will lose again isn’t the way to go.

by Clove_art on Sep 28, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Oscar is a joke

First his drag photos, and now this.

"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option

If you're not first, you're last

by Zfan on Sep 28, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions

and others need to lose their homophobia,

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions

well said

by Sweet science on Sep 28, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Why would Oscar embarrass himself like this?

I have a theory on why OScar is acting like this.
Scott don’t ban me
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512035

by Mohammedini Hussein on Sep 28, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions

maybe look up homophobia at
http://www.merriam-webster.com/

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Not a homophob bro

My best friend came out a couple of years ago and I didn’t flinch. I still see him as a brother.
My thread is just a theory on why Oscar would ruin his reputation and embarrass himself for a kid that doesn’t have the heart to be great. Why defend him til the bitter end and make excuses for him? just a theory ;)

by Mohammedini Hussein on Sep 28, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Theres nothing homophobic about being shocked about an all-time great tough boxer who took pictures in lingerie

"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option

If you're not first, you're last

by Zfan on Sep 28, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah exactly!

I give him massive props for being a warrior in my tread.
Cuz that is what he was, a warrior. The wars he had with Mosley, with Quartey etc etc.
I don’t understand how he would even see anything closely similar of the fighter he was in Ortiz. Ortiz is a compulsive liar and Oscar could be living a lie. Maybe thats the similarity.

by Mohammedini Hussein on Sep 28, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

not your bro

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't be mad ;)

why would I be homophobic? explain plz

by Mohammedini Hussein on Sep 28, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions

thought so ;)

by Mohammedini Hussein on Sep 28, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions

it’s easy—why do you write “Don’t ban me Scott”?
Explain.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Sep 28, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Oscar is just weird. When you live ur life in the public eye, you are open to scrutiny. Cross dressing, drugs and alcohol… It brings up a lot of questions.

It’s the same with FMJ and his relationship with his father. It brings up questions and people talk about it.

by Clove_art on Sep 28, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

We cant make fun of guys that wear womens clothing?

by Nellieball on Sep 28, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah thats crazy

If Mike Tyson took photos wearing lingerie and women’s thongs, I would be like “what the hell too”. It has absolutley nothing to do with being homophobic.

And I love Mike. But yes, it would shock the hell out of me. Just like Oscar.

"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option

If you're not first, you're last

by Zfan on Sep 28, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions