Mayweather vs. Guerrero: Guerrero's Manager Speaks
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 11, 2012 2:54 AM EST
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The hot rumor of the week is that Robert Guerrero is going to Floyd Mayweather's opponent for his May 5th date at the MGM Grand. The question that most boxing fans had were "what has Robert done to earn this shot?" Guerrero's manager Bob Santos answered this question along with a few others in an interview with Ryan Maquiñana of Boxing Scene and CSN Bay Area (Bay Area Represent!).
"There's no doubt about it. Robert has done everything he can do, in my opinion, inside the ring. He's won multiple world championships in multiple divisions. He's undefeated in world title fights. He's went overseas to beat champions on their home turf. Then couple that with the things he's dealt with outside the ring and I think it's going to be a tremendous pay-per-view once he gets on 24/7 or goes on CNN with Piers Morgan.
"Look, Floyd's going to sell what he's going to sell. He's going to do X amount of buys regardless of if he fights the ice cream man. That being said, when people see that Robert's won multiple world championships and undefeated in title fights, and see the story behind him and the person he is in and outside of the ring, I think that's what's going to appeal to the guy in the softball league or the soccer mom."
Alright so this is looking at Guerrero through the rosiest lens on the face of the earth. He's not really undefeated in world championship fight since Orlando Salido dominated him at featherweight but then Salido tested positive for the steroid Nandrolone. However, he was immediately given another test where he tested negative. Also the fight he had overseas was Spend Abazi for the vacant title after Salido tested positive for steroids. This is Guerrero's only fight abroad, so he hasn't exactly beaten champions abroad, he has fought abroad for a vacant title. Guerrero also has another no contest in a title fight against Daud Yordan. So he hasn't exactly won all of his title fights either. However, the most important reason why the #NoToGuerrero movement took hold is that Robert has zero fights at 147 and only one fight at 138. There will be a gigantic size mismatch between the two, which Floyd will use to destroy the Ghost. I really hate that this fight seems very likely because it is a terrible matchup.
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I think this is a good fight …..for Floyd.
He gets an easy pay day with at least 90% of the take. Canelo would demand more and so would anyone else. Sheeeesh, Pacquaio would demand half.
Floyd deserves this opportunity. Seriously. Certainly not for such a minor offense. The WBC made it clear that treating a lady the way floyd did is certainly not a sin tor major offense.
He only pleaded to the two counts of against him to get the DA off his back. I’m not sure he really even did anything wrong. If he had, I certainly never heard him say so or that he is sorry. So that IMO proves he was set up and/or is innocent
Now Arum on the other hand, is the devil incarnate. Because he said that Floyd was not on his agenda, floyd had no choices. Guererro was the ONLY Mexican free on Cinco de Mayo.
And Robert is a champion.
Plus he loves God.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
What part of “this is a terrible matchup” necessitated that snark-filled diatribe?
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 11, 2012 3:22 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing
I like Floyd.
He is a prize fighter extraordinaire.
Not a pride fighter.
Thisn is not a terrible matchup. Floyd has planned it for some time now I imagine so there must be a master plan. Maybe he wants another look at a lefty. Maybe he just wants to see what it is like fighting lighter guys fighting heavier.
I have too much respect for Floyd and Golden Boy to believe that they want anything less that the best fight possible for the fans. It i clear that they searched far and wide for the right opponent. The list must of been long and the winnowing process must hve been exhausting.
I’m just glad that when all was said and done, GB was alble to provide Floyd anothe chamoion in house.
After all, the city of Las Vegas wants a fight to bring money to their municipality. They obvious trust Floyd to bring the bacon home.
Now all they need to do is blame Arum for ‘eliminating’ all other contenders and put lipstick on this pig and celebrate.
They will be happily rewarded for their efforts as the fight will sell better than the naysayers believe and Floyd won’t need to worry if for some reason he has to serve athe extra month.
He will be sitting on plenty of fresh dough.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Apologies for being smarky
I read your copty and paste write up again and I feel bad.
A fine piece of journalism indeed.
I learned a lot. Not as much as the whole interview on Boxingscene but thank you for your always wel researched and invaluable insights.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
I also apologize for using spell-check, BFF.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 11, 2012 4:10 AM EST up reply actions
Also you want to get me an interview with Bob?
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 11, 2012 4:12 AM EST up reply actions
It would be my pleasure
But why would you want one. You already have the answers.
You should maintain your integrity and just write.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Why would Mayweather want to fight Pacquiao? Everyone knows he’s going to win so why even have the fight.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 11, 2012 4:19 AM EST up reply actions
That is another fact.
I am kicking myself for not having seen the obvious. I read here somewhere that Manny is nothing more than just pure Arum hype and now that you have shared, I can see that the posts I read were indeed true.
I always thought that PED thing was just a ploy and Floyd’s families way of being kind and letting Arum off the hook with his endentured cash cow.
I appreciate your sharing.
BTW, Do you have anyone I can call for good seats for the Mayweather/Geurerro fight. I want to watch the undisputed P4P King do his thing.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
C’mon guys, Scott is going to close this thread down too. And even though these are comedy gold, well, we can’t have all the threads involving May/Pac closed, can we? This is the “off-season” (of sorts), we need all the entertainment we can get.
"He's still a very strong fighter, but I am way better than he is" - Miguel Cotto
I can't tell if this is semi-serious or if this is 100% sarcastic
I hope the latter. What’s amusing is that on other sites I’ve seen a number of people make all of these BS arguments with a completely straight face.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Why bother?
I think it’s a good sign that Guerrero’s manager has to plead to the press that his fighter is a legitimate opponent for Floyd. If the fight is so close to being set, I don’t think he would even bother speaking to the press like this.
They’ve had his publicist banging on doors about this fight for two solid months. When word came that the fight was close, the reaction was REALLY negative pretty much across the board. I think they’re trying to sell that Robert deserves this. I like Robert, but I cannot defend the fight.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 11, 2012 3:26 AM EST up reply actions
A company that all but sues to have their 'champion" Khan restored
as an entitlement ………has little or no interest in what the public thinks.
The are interested in the good of the sport. And Roberto is, if nothing else, ’ Good".
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
All promoters care what the public thinks
to the exact extent they think it affects their bottom line, and no further. Of course, most of them are blinded by arrogance and stupidity as well.
But why try to make it a bigger thing than it is? Their posturing about Khan is peanuts compared to what regularly gets pulled by promoters in boxing.
I smoke on the mic like Smokin' Joe Frazier
Putting aside whether these fights could actually be made
Here’s a list of opponents I’d rather see Mayweather fight than Guerrero, in no particular order:
Manny Pacquiao
Sergio Martinez
Miguel Cotto
Saul Alvarez
Kell Brook
Mike Jones
Andre Berto
Victor Ortiz
Juan Manuel Marquez
Erik Morales
Lucas Matthysse-Devon Alexander winner
James Kirkland-Carlos Molina winner
Erislandy Lara
Timothy Bradley
Amir Khan
Anthony Peterson
Antonio DeMarco
Vyacheslav Senchenko
Austin Trout
Charlie Ota
Andriy Kotelnik
Paulie Malignaggi
Jan Zaveck
Delvin Rodriguez
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Orlando Salido
OK, the last two are sort of a joke, but not really. After all, Salido (a) beat Guerrero pretty widely, (b) is also a natural featherweight, © is ranked higher than Guerrero in a stronger weight class and (d) ACTUALLY is Mexican and isn’t just a Californian with a Spanish last name and no fan base. And of course, Gamboa beat Salido, so there’s that too.
I can’t really believe this fight will happen. I think this is a smokescreen for a different crummy fight. Mayweather’s team just won’t squash these rumors because no matter who he actually does end up fighting, it will at least look better than Mayweather-Guerrero. I mean, it wasn’t long ago that rumors were circulating that Mayweather was looking at Paul Spadafora and Matthew Hatton as opponents. He’s used this tactic before.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Obviously I meant the Maidana-Alexander winner
But Matthysse can go on the list independently too. And hell, throw Zauerbek Baysangurov and K-9 Bundrage on the list as well. And Nonito Donaire.
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I take great offense to point D. That’s kind of not cool man
Going to keep this simple: Texans = SUPER BOWL CHAMPS
by battle axe of doom on Jan 11, 2012 11:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Guerrero is a third generation American
He’s not a Mexican citizen, he’s never lived in Mexico and he’s never even fought in Mexico. My point was that part of the rationale people keep spouting is that Mayweather wants to fight a Mexican on Cinco de Mayo. That point seems moot to me with Guerrero, who has zero Mexican fan base. Sure, he’s Mexican-American, but it’s not like he invigorates the Mexican-American fan base either, and fight fans in Mexico itself probably have little idea who he is because, unlike Canelo, almost none of his fights have aired in Mexico.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Jan 11, 2012 2:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m with you. Not cool
All of it. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I want it all.
by Eugene Banks on Jan 11, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
I promise not to say anything more on the subject after this one.
But I don’t really understand why. We don’t call Paulie Malignaggi Italian. We don’t call Floyd Mayweather African. He’s an American of Mexican descent. Mexican-American, sure…Mexican no.
It’s not like I don’t like the guy. He seems like a nice person, and I wouldn’t wish what happened to him and his wife on anyone. He still doesn’t have fans, and he’s still American.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
And I apologize if I offended anyone
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Of course
But it would be more competitive than Guerrero. 90% of those guys lose easy, but I’d just rather see them than a guy who I don’t think is that great, is a natural featherweight, hasn’t fought in over a year and is moving up two weight classes for the fight.
Stylistically, right now, I’d say the guy who gives Floyd the most problems is actually Erislandy Lara. Unlike most others, he’s patient enough to wait for Mayweather to come to him, plus he’s bigger and a southpaw. Of course, that’s not happening in a million years.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
According to Dan Rafael’s Twitter, this fight is not happening.
"The bell that tolls for all in boxing belongs to a cash register."
-Bob Verdi
by Waldo Rastel on Jan 11, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
I've said before
I thought this was a smokescreen. It’s like a kid asking for a tattoo so he can get an earring.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Jan 11, 2012 7:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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