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Nathan Cleverly, Frank Warren Deserve Every Bit of Criticism For Poor Karpency Matchup

Here's some video from the Cardiff press conference this week to promote Nathan Cleverly's February 25 fight against Tommy Karpency. You might assume that would mean that Karpency, who is challenging for Cleverly's hard-earned WBO light heavyweight title after all, would be, you know, there, but no, he isn't.


I don't mean any of this to be a jerk toward Tommy Karpency. I hope he shows up and shocks the world and wins. I really do. That's what promoters and fighters deserve for making these type of fights when you get to this level of the sport, because this is a sham in every sense of the word.

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It's not been booked in any way, shape, or form to be competitive, or a legitimate test of Cleverly's mettle. It has been booked to baby Cleverly with a hometown "title defense," and at this point, I honestly consider Cleverly to be one of the worst paper champions in all of boxing.

He got the belt because Juergen Braehmer wouldn't show up, which fair enough I suppose, but his defenses have been Aleksy Kuziemski, Tony Bellew, and now this. That Cleverly struggled with Bellew says something about Cleverly, alright, but it doesn't say much good about his prospects to become a true top star or elite fighter.

This fight is such an afterthought, such a pure money grab and nothing more, that they don't even have Tommy Karpency at the press conference. And they shouldn't! It wouldn't be worth the cost of flying him over because nobody knows who he is and they aren't going to convince anyone to care in the next six weeks, either.

If this seems as though I'm being harsh, good, because that's how it's intended. Cleverly's title run has been abysmal thus far and there is no hope on the horizon that it will be anything more than that, as they appear for all the world to be setting up glass-jawed, shrunken down Enzo Maccarinelli as Clev's next opponent.

I'm not saying Nathan Cleverly can't fight. I'm simply saying that the time to go, "Oh what a great young prospect, I'm on this train" is, or at least should be over. It's time for him to step up and actually prove he's a top light heavyweight, because right now, he's coasting on his old prospect reputation, promotional backing, and a meaningless title belt.

Now having said ALL THAT, let's get to Frank Warren's absurd thoughts on this fight, as he uses his house interviewer to set him up with some softballs and whiffs on them anyway:


The interviewer, possessing a wealth of boxing knowledge I am certain, asks, "Karpency is ranked as No. 11 by the WBA. Some people are saying this is going to be an easy fight for Cleverly. Do you think there's any justification for that?"

Warren intelligently responds, "I think there's no justification for it. He's a top 10 ranked fighter, he's there on merit, and at this stage of Nathan's career, I think it's a good opponent to fight."

They keep calling it the WBA, when obviously they're talking about the WBO. Combined with the fact that Karpency isn't even at the press conference, it tells you the amount of thought that went into making this fight.

Now the greatest mindscrew there, obviously, is that Warren, having just been told that Karpency is ranked No. 11 by the WBO (which is bullshit to start, but let's go further), claims Karpency is a top ten ranked fighter. As much as I'd like to believe it's just a "mistake," it just comes off as though Warren is so smug about all of this, and so eager to lie, that he's lying literally seconds after a fact was stated.

Furthermore, Karpency is hilariously ranked 11th by the WBO...as a cruiserweight. He has rarely fought over the light heavyweight limit, and has never truly fought as a cruiserweight. His highest weigh-in was 183 pounds against a guy named Julius Jackson (who was 3-7) at the time, two fights ago in June 2010.

Karpency followed that by coming in at 178 for a win in February 2011 over Andre Hemphill (10-16-2 before the fight). He hasn't fought since then.

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But yes. Bravo, WBO and Frank Warren and Nathan Cleverly. Surely you have found a diamond in the rough here, a serious contender who truly deserves this world title shot and has absolutely earned it.

And those people who say the fight is a mismatch and a waste of time and an easy way to get ol' Clev a win? They're idiots. What do they know? The fair WBO has him ranked 11th in a division he's never truly fought in, so obviously the facts and the logic and the reasoning are on YOUR side.

"Would I like him to be fighting Bernard Hopkins or Chad Dawson right now? Absolutely," Warren asked and answered himself.

"The problem we've got is the only date available in the venue down here is February, and we're limited by the capacity, which is less than 5,000," Warren further explained.

So it's a sub-5,000 capacity homecoming that the people of Cardiff should celebrate. Warren says that this being a homecoming is the most important thing. But it seems more like a last resort than a party.

Being protected as "Britain's only world champion" left standing after a rough 2011 for UK fighters on the top stage, Cleverly is being babied with a fight like this. The worst part is, at least from a boxing standpoint and progressing his career, it will do nothing for him. Karpency is the type of fighter Cleverly was beating in 2008, when he started stepping up to domestic contention after three years of figuring out his weight and his potential.

The criticism being lobbed at Warren and Cleverly is beyond valid. It's simply right, and their position is not even arguable. If Cleverly is going to be called "world champion," if he's going to be considered a true top fighter at 175 pounds, then this fight is laughable at best, and if Cleverly loses some respect for taking this type of fight at this stage, then as unfortunate as that may be, that is also deserved.

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I’ve actually heard people try to justify this by pointing to what Hearn is doing with Brook. Sorry, but Brook-Hatton is leagues better than this farce.

by bachwards on Jan 12, 2012 6:56 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, they’re not even in the same ballpark. Matthew Hatton is miles more accomplished than Karpency, and people know who he is.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 12, 2012 6:57 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not exactly surprising that he’s fighting a nobody, Warren’s notorious for setting up easy fights, i mean the only reason Ricky Hatton ended up fighting Kostya Tszyu was because he forced Warren into making it. As for Cleverly I have no respect for him as a boxer he goes on and on about how he wants a fight with Hopkins and then takes fights like these, if he really wanted to earn a fight with the likes of Hopkins he’d leave Warren and start fighting known opponents. His most recent claim is that he’s going to reignite Welsh boxing to the glory days of Joe Calzaghe, Cleverly is definitely no Calzaghe and until he sorts himself out, which i doubt will happen until he leaves Frank Warren he should shut up and stop making statements like these. Cleverly makes me ashamed to be Welsh.

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by Counterpunch on Jan 12, 2012 7:12 AM EST reply actions  

Pretty similar to the Ricky Burns situation really. Have a ‘homecoming’ fight and act that fans have a duty to buy tickets to a dud fight. When ticket sales are sluggish, blame the fans for ‘failing to get behind their man’ and explain that this is the reason the big fights are put on in Manchester, Liverpool and London.

The only thing that interests me about the fight is how Steve Bunce attempts to present Karpency as some kind of massive threat: ‘Well Karpency went the distance with Murat, and Murat was really competitive against Nathan.’

I don’t have anything against Warren and really want to get behind and the Boxnation project, but fans deserve better than this.

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Jan 12, 2012 8:08 AM EST reply actions  

Pretty similar to the Ricky Burns situation really. Have a ‘homecoming’ fight and act that fans have a duty to buy tickets to a dud fight. When ticket sales are sluggish, blame the fans for ‘failing to get behind their man’ and explain that this is the reason the big fights are put on in Manchester, Liverpool and London.

Yeah. I’m obviously not local, but I’ve noticed this from Warren particularly over the years.

The only thing that interests me about the fight is how Steve Bunce attempts to present Karpency as some kind of massive threat: ‘Well Karpency went the distance with Murat, and Murat was really competitive against Nathan.’

I love Steve Bunce, but he can be as guilty as anyone when it comes to attempting to legitimize shit fights. He constantly jumps over the line between Boxing’s Honest Commentator and Just Another Guy.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 12, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I suppose that is the attraction with Bunce, you have no idea what is going to come out of his mouth. Sometimes he goes from insightful to idiotic within a single sentence. I would like to say that this is because he is in an awkward position as Boxnation is a Frank Warren channel (as was Setanta boxing), but from seeing him on other channels over the years and listening to his radio shows, he seems to be genuinely like that

To be fair to Warren, the Burns fight looks alright in comparison, in that it is not insulting. Despite being a Ricky Burns fan based in Glasgow, there was no way I was going to pay to see any of his title defences at super feather, especially after attending the Martinez fight which at least seemed like a credible ‘world’ title shot. The Moses fight is on the borderline for me, in that a decent undercard fight might swing it.

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Jan 12, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Burns vs Moses is a good fight in my totally unbiased opinion. It’s much better than the crap they had Burns fighting between Martinez and Katsidis.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 12, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Whenever you ask these two about the other champions at 175 they seem willing to take the challenge. However of those top names and champions Chad Dawson seems to be the one that really worries them the most.

I appreciate Tony Bellew’s honesty when he said during an interview on Steve Bunce Boxing Hour that he would fancy a fight with any light heavyweight except Chad Dawson. You just don’t have that kind of straight talk from fighters or promoters and it’s refreshing. Bellew’s grown on me quite a bit

by CollegeDropIn on Jan 12, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

Bellew seems an alright guy. I still laugh when I think about his out-of-place, over-the-top celebration after the second McKenzie fight, though.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

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