Juan Manuel Marquez's Next Fight: March 17 in Play, David Diaz Considered
by Scott Christ on Jan 12, 2012 10:26 PM EST
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If Juan Manuel Marquez does not land a fourth fight with Manny Pacquiao in June, he will still return to the ring (as he's decided retirement is not an option right now) this spring, and Sal Rodriguez reports that a March 17 date against David Diaz is possible.
You might recall that last summer, when Marquez was looking for a tune-up fight before facing Pacquiao in November, Diaz was the first choice for an opponent, but they had money disagreements. Marquez offered $100K, and then $150K, but Diaz demanded $300K and then $250K. They never went, "$200K should do it then, right?" and instead Marquez fought Likar Ramos, which wound up a complete waste of time other than JMM getting in a training camp, as Ramos decided to lay down gently in the first round, so completely "knocked out."
Then, to make it all even worse, David Diaz took very small money to face Hank Lundy in August, and was knocked out in six. It was a really good fight, very exciting, but Diaz wound up losing a fight for a lot less money than even the $100,000 that Marquez offered at first, so all in all, you can't call it a good move, really.
Diaz (36-4-1, 17 KO) is really, truly one of the nicest guys in boxing. He's an honest, hard-working sort who has an incredibly positive attitude and never makes excuses. He's also 35 years old and not a contender anymore.
He'd be a good between-fights opponent for Marquez; a bit more than a stay-busy fight, but not a legitimate risk for the star fighter, and Marquez could use the fight to get sharp and tune up for something with Timothy Bradley this summer, perhaps, if neither of them wind up fighting Manny.
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Can't help thinking
That we hold the top superstars to a different standard tat the other great names in the game.
If Floyd or Manny fought a ‘stay busy’ fight, we are borderline apoplectic. When JMM does we say ‘good on him’. I happen to agree with the latter positiion as I would….as in days of yore….prefer to see more of my fighters even if some of the ’tweeners are simply stay busy fights.
Moreover, fighters need to fight. They do not need every fight to be on the same level.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
I wouldn’t mind seeing Mayweather or Pacquiao take a stay busy fight sometimes. The problem would be when they try to put it on ppv and expect to make a massive 8-figure payday.
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by Kory Kitchen on Jan 13, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
JMM’s side acknowledges that it’s a stay-busy fight against a southpaw, rather than trying to convices everyone that it’s a PPV-quality affair.
by Sentimental on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Different situation in some ways. Marquez has Mexican TV to back a fight like this and isn’t purely tied to HBO (or HBO PPV) every time he decides to fight, if he chooses to do something like this. And I don’t think HBO feels the need to televise him (or charge for it) no matter what he does. When Manny Pacquiao fought David Diaz, they put it on PPV and I don’t remember anyone thinking Diaz was any danger to Manny, even with Pacquiao moving up in weight.
But yes we do absolutely hold different fighters to different standards. It’s an imperfect world — we expect more of Manny or Floyd simply because they (everyone involved, not the fighters) charge us to watch them, and thus they raise the expectations of what their fights should be. This is also why a fight like Pacquiao vs Margarito, for instance, draws criticism for being one-sided, when it’s really no more one-sided than hundreds of other fights I watch every year.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 13, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Especially when there are so many other good fights out there. I was excited about the poss. of BradleyvMarquez
If Pacquiao does face Mayweather in May, makes Marquez so sure he would be his next fight or if Pacquiao will even fight again? Maybe the point is to make a little change in a non-risky fight before facing one more tough competitor and heading out into the sunset?
When was the last time Pac or Mayweather had a stay busy fight?
Mayweather fights once a year, Pacquiao twice a year. That’s not staying busy.
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And if they were going to put it on free TV
Instead of asking people to shell over $60 to watch them, we probably wouldn’t care that much either.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Understood
But that’s show biz..
Try telling Floyd and/or Manny that you to give on to the fans for free.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Marquez is a just a smart man. He knows at his age the worst thing he can do to himself is be inactive. This fight gives him something to do while something bigger develops.
Still driving that Tebow bandwagon. It got a flat and we had to back door our way into the playoffs. But muthafukka got fix. Now we rolling to New England
Actually, they all really need to stay busy
I have no issue with this or most stay busy fights
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Except Mayweather who has developed the new buisness model for elit fighters.
"I wish people would love everybody else the way they love me. It would be a better world."
—Muhammad Ali…
Arum's not letting Bradley fight anyone until this whole Mayweather mess gets sorted out
He needs Bradley to be a backup option for Pacquiao.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Diaz is a buzzkill fight.
After beating Pac he should be aiming bigger than this.
by Shitali Klitschko on Jan 13, 2012 5:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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