Manny Pacquiao's Next Fight: Timothy Bradley and Miguel Cotto May Be Final Options, Roach Wants Bradley
by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 3:32 PM EST
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Trainer Freddie Roach is now favoring Timothy Bradley to be Manny Pacquiao's opponent in early June, and not Lamont Peterson or Miguel Cotto. From RingTV.com:
"I think that we need some new blood in there, and Bradley poses a little bit of a problem," said Roach, from his Wild Card Boxing Gym in Hollywood, Calif., on Monday. "So I would rather go with Tim Bradley than a Miguel Cotto or somebody else."
... "I have't talked to anyone yet, but I think that [Top Rank CEO] Bob Arum's choices, to me, are Cotto or Bradley," said Roach. "I don't think that Mayweather is going to happen until November. I think that's going to be the best date for that fight."
Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KO) has reportedly made his choice, but Bob Arum isn't going public yet.
A few things are going on here, just to brief on this:
- Miguel Cotto is rumored to be in the lead, and may or may not have been Manny's choice. But Cotto is also talking about a fight with Canelo Alvarez, and Top Rank wants to match Cotto with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr in July, too.
- The Mayweather fight, obviously, is not happening. Talk has died down in the last couple of days, as it always does. The general strategy is for EVERYONE TO SCREAM ABOUT IT!!!!! for a week, then hit the weekend, and basically pretend they weren't just screaming about it. They like to let the talk fade. It saves from answering questions or anything like that.
- Juan Manuel Marquez appears to be out. Nobody is saying that outright, but none of the talk for the June fight is about Marquez anymore. Whether it's because his demands are too high or they just don't think it's the right fight for June, or because they want to have something useful to save for November when the Mayweather fight also doesn't happen then, it doesn't look like the fourth Marquez fight is next.
- Lamont Peterson isn't a legitimate option. He never really has been.
If this does play out with Bradley getting the fight, it'll be step one to confirming that Richard Schaefer is a better fortune teller than Bob Arum.
So let's say it's down to Cotto or Tim Bradley: Which fight do you want to see more?
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voted Bradley
The more I’ve thought about that fight the last couple of days, the more I’ve come around. I’m still fine with a Pacquiao-Cotto rematch, but I want to see what Tim Bradley has at this level. He’s ready for it, as ready as he’ll ever be.
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How come though? Do you really want to see Pacquaio beat Cotto again? You obviously no more about boxing than I do, whats your reasoning?
by MattyEdgeworth on Jan 16, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve always been a bit uneasy with the first Pacquiao-Cotto fight. Cotto was so badly prepared for that fight, and didn’t have a real trainer. Joe Santiago is no boxing trainer and had zero answers or even suggestions for Cotto when things got rough. I think Pedro Diaz could better prepare Cotto for Manny, and Manny has legitimately lost a step since 2009, too. I think there’s still some intrigue in that fight. Also, I just really like both guys. That does play a part in my tolerance for the rematch.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I really like both guys too but thats more why I don’t wanna see the fight, I don’t want Cotto to get beat like that again. I hope you are right if the rematch does happen.
by MattyEdgeworth on Jan 16, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
But Cotto still is a perfect match-up for Pac
Cotto being a lefty fighting as orthodox he has trouble with southpaws and his right hand is mediocre.
He has trouble seeing the left cross.
Also Pac is much much faster then Cotto all while Cotto isn’t the most durable fighter out there.
Also he hates pressure = perfect match up for Pac
by Mohammedini Hussein on Jan 16, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
But...but..
…Manny insisted it be Mayweather!
"Boxing is like dealing with a ho"
-Bernard Hopkins
maybe November!
Maybe November.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
I’m paid. If this were just a hobby I’d be mentally ill.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
While we’re on the subject though, is this your job or do you work at something else as well? Because I’ve always thought that you pay so much attention to this site that you probably don’t have another job, unless it’s something you do at home as well.
"He's still a very strong fighter, but I am way better than he is" - Miguel Cotto
What with the economy and the job market being so excellent, this is it for me these days. Once I got to that point I decided to amp it up last year and make it worth my time by investing greater effort, and worth more of anyone else’s time. I definitely do not make The Big Bucks, but here I am with my high-speed internet and my absurd cable package, so, you know, things could be a lot worse.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd because I've always wondered this and I'm glad someone else asked
Your writing single-handedly turned me into a boxing fan
My name isn't Todd.
I’m glad you asked that. I’ve always wanted to know and, for some reason that right now escapes me, I was afraid to ask. haha
"He's still a very strong fighter, but I am way better than he is" - Miguel Cotto
I went Cotto
Because I Really want a Floyd Manny fight. And I think Bradley has a much better chance of ruining that
#NoToTimothyBradley please. It worked once before
Lamont deserves a huge payday, and it’ll be a cracker
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by battle axe of doom on Jan 16, 2012 4:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Timothy Bradley beat Lamont Peterson. Peterson doesn’t deserve a huge payday any more than Bradley does.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
I voted Cotto
But frankly neither overly intrigues me. I admit I’m biased toward Cotto because he has always been a personal favorite of mine. Bradley just annoys me because he ducked Khan, and then had a crap fight against Casamayor. But honestly it’s not a big deal to me either way.
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"...and then had a crap fight against Casamayor"
Sorry, but what more could Bradley have done in that fight? Casamayor was not throwing and just shelling up. He was the reason alone it was such a bad fight.
He could have not fought Casamayor. It was a bullshit fight before they ever got into the ring, for every possible reason. If he’d taken a tune-up against someone who even wanted to be there I’d have been OK. Casamayor is, to be honest, a genuinely bad fighter at this point. His heart’s not in it and all his talent has faded.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
I like either fight actually. I’m just curious as to what weight a Cotto fight happens at. Anyone know?
by RRod806 on Jan 16, 2012 5:04 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Pac-Bradley is an okay fight. Probably won’t be the most thrilling thing in the world but Bradley is a legitimate opponent.
Bradley has been entertaining when in against guys who fight — Peterson and Holt, particularly.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
bradley
I’m all for Bradley. I was thinking maybe build this fight up but forget all that. If he gets by bradley and its Floyd in Nov. 2012 may very well be Pac’s last year in the ring! Against 2 undefeated fighters! That’s ho its done Son!
by DiE_HARDFER on Jan 16, 2012 6:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I voted neither out of protest. Any fight besides Mayweather is bullshit at this point. Righteous indignation!!
That’s exactly why that option was included — I wanted to see how many people just reject the idea of any other fight.
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by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that anything besides Mayweather is garbage, but I would be lying if I said I would have no interest in who Pacquiao fights. They’re still hugely important, and figure to be good fights nevertheless. I hate it’s not Mayweather, but I’m honestly going to watch regardless.
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by Kory Kitchen on Jan 16, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
I voted neither because any fight involving the words Pac or May just irritates me.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Cotto?
Only to Arum is Cotto deserving of another shot at Manny. He was thoroughly, unarguably drubbed in their fight and does not earn another shot for a victory over semi-dead Margarito. If Arum makes this fight, he destroys Manny’s credibility as a guy that wants a challenge.
Bradley is acceptable, but it would seem that the Mayweather vs. Manny saga is bringing everything that sucks about boxing to the forefront.
Went Cotto, loved the first fight and want to see it now its more even between the two.
Mayweather was never a serious option, so not sure why everyone is so pissed about it not happening.
by Shitali Klitschko on Jan 16, 2012 11:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mayweather was never a serious option, so not sure why everyone is so pissed about it not happening.
Because it dominated boxing news for another week. In the end, many now feel as though it’s nothing but a bunch of blowhards trying to make themselves look good. But you can’t ignore it, since both of them matter so much. So there it is, in your face, a bunch of bullshit. Why wouldn’t people be annoyed?
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by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
But its the same old story we’ve heard a hundred times before.
Boy cries wolf scenario.
The “Pac/Floyd are in negotiations” story comes around so often now that IDK how anyone takes it seriously.
by Shitali Klitschko on Jan 17, 2012 1:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bradley
He was the best 140 pounder in the world. He was tested there and remained undefeated.
If he wants welterweight money…..let him take his shot. Ortiz moved up, took on (overrated) Berto and earned his best payday with Floyd after all but but crapping out at 140. So why not let the real junior welterweight champ take his chances at a bigger and better challenge.
If Manny gets heatbutted, he already seen how real champions react, so he’ll know what to do.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Schaefer, last week
“What Bob wants to do is have Pacquiao fight Timothy Bradley, and he wants Juan Manuel Marquez to fight Peterson, and he wants Cotto to fight Chavez Jr. … Let’s just say that I have my sources that he wants to have Pacquiao fight Bradley. I have my sources. End of story.”
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