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Julio Cesar Chavez Jr Could Face Antonio Margarito or Anthony Mundine After Rubio

Antonio Margarito doesn't have much left in the ring, but what he does have, we'll likely see beaten out of him. (Photo by Al Bello/Getty Images)

Though Julio Cesar Chavez Jr hasn't even gotten past his next hurdle -- an HBO fight on February 4 with veteran Marco Antonio Rubio -- there are already talks about what he'll do after that fight, giving the impression that Top Rank is either extremely confident that Rubio can't or won't beat Chavez, or giving the impression that everyone involved is overlooking Rubio. Take your pick.

But the thing being made most clear, even though it isn't being outright said, is that Top Rank has taken a position of arrogance when it comes to the WBC's supposed mandate that Chavez must fight Sergio Martinez next. They're making it almost too obvious that they have no fear of the WBC actually stripping Chavez of his middleweight title belt, and that they don't believe the sanctioning body will seriously make Chavez fight anyone. Too much money, too much clout. Top Rank is boldly ignoring that Martinez exists and that the WBC keeps saying the fight has to happen, basically brushing it all aside.

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Miguel Cotto has already been mentioned as a possible option for Chavez on a July date, unless Cotto is chosen to fight Manny Pacquiao (or Floyd Mayweather) and wants to fight Manny Pacquiao (or Floyd Mayweather).

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Now a couple new names have come up, reports BoxingScene.com's Rick Reeno. Well, one is new, another has been mentioned fairly recently. The new one is Anthony Mundine, the outspoken Australian fighter who recently signed a deal with manager Cameron Dunkin.

The other is Antonio Margarito. Margarito was brought up as a potential opponent for Chavez prior to his December loss to Miguel Cotto, when Arum flat-out stated that he'd like to make a Chavez vs Margarito fight, for obvious reasons (there's money in it, and would have been real money in it had Margarito beaten Cotto).

Chavez (44-0-1, 31 KO) would actually be a pretty significant step up in competition for Mundine, who turns 37 in May. Arum likes that fight because of the Australian TV money. For all the points I might make about his lack of credible opposition over the years or the fact that he seems to talk more about tough fights than actually seriously approach them, I'll never bash Mundine for not marketing himself effectively. He's definitely done that.

Margarito (38-8, 27 KO) is an obvious fit, and let's not sugarcoat this: Top Rank is going to milk Margarito's name value as much as possible, because he's got maybe two or three legitimate fights left.

Margarito turns 34 in March -- he's getting old-ish for a boxer in the first place, but when you take into account the physical toll on his body, particularly that right eye which is never going to be in truly good shape for a fight again, he's very, very close to the end of the road as a serious fighter, and I mean that he will still get a couple of serious fights like this one. As an actual fighter with a chance to win those serious fights, I believe he's toast. Burnt. In fact, right now, no matter what he does against Rubio, I'd pick Chavez to beat Margarito hands down.

Do the Margarito or Mundine ideas interest you? Do you think they're competitive fights? Could you see either man defeating Chavez at this point?

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Mundine will make absolutely no money here on TV. Maybe 10,000 PPV buys tops. No idea where Arum is getting this dreams of big money from. His events in the past have been fought on Wednesday nights, this PPV would be aired on a Sunday.

He’s another bum with an inflated record Arum will use to pad Chavez’s record.

by Xilliun on Jan 18, 2012 8:37 AM EST reply actions  

I’ve always meant to ask what the significance of Wednesday nights is for Australian boxing. Why’s that the usual day for big fights?

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by Scott Christ on Jan 18, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I think its because the weekends are reserved for both the AFL and Rugby League and a Mundine card or boxing card in general wouldnt stand much of a chance against either one. Even if those cards are filled with ex-footy players (read: no hopers) anyway.

I was dreaming of just you, now my cereal, it is warm.

by Sam Cupitt on Jan 18, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Always wondered that too, but just put it down to that reasoning.

by Xilliun on Jan 18, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I would prefer Margarito over some other B grade fighter. Why? simple… i love seeing him get beat up. Also im mildly curious as to how he will look at 160, wanna see if his iron chin can withstand it.

by TheBod on Jan 18, 2012 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

His iron chin could be fine but his eye is made of wet paper now.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 18, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

very true. Not sure Chavez has the skills to target the eye as much as Cotto did though. But then again with the extra power in not sure he will need many punches to punish the eye.

by TheBod on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

There’s that and the fact that I don’t think Margarito can put a dent in him. Chavez is a big kid and takes a shot pretty well so far to boot. I would expect Chavez to really attack Margarito, and Roach will have him throwing jabs and hooks at that eye from the opening bell.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 18, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah i agree about Chavez being a big guy. Thats why i would rather see margarito fight him over cotto. I think cotto is way too small for Chavez, i really dont want to see cotto badly hurt again. Chavez can beat up Margarito till the cows come home for all i care.

by TheBod on Jan 19, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

wet paper

Boxing vernacular at it’s best.

by Manuwar on Jan 18, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

margarito doesn’t deserve a title shot, that would be so unfair….

by EL CIERTO (VEN) on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Chavez didn’t deserve one either. Deserve has nothing to do with boxing. Neither does fair.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I find the fights interesting. Not sure how competitive they would be b/c there are question marks about ALL the fighters involved. Rubio will tell us more about Chavez.

If I had to choose which one could take Chavez, I would go with Margarito. He is still a relentless, tough, SOB and Mexican pride would be at stake.

by DPlainview on Jan 18, 2012 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

For pure entertainment, me too

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by pakinpower on Jan 18, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I will not watch a PPV of Chavez unless a Martinez fight is made.

OTOH is he fights Cotto, I’ll tune in to the pay cable show. Margo and Mundine, not so much.

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by Pops Daniels on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t get tired of seeing Margarito getting beat up. He seems to always push himself to the limits, I like that, even if he loses.

by IronMalaka on Jan 18, 2012 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

It’ll be Mundine, it’s the Arum way.

ufc is dying.

by BoxingOutlivesFads on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Holy shit. This is too much.

-Both guys have bad eyes. Mundine nearly lost vision in one of his eyes and has never looked the same since.

-Both guys are ardently followed by a boxing public that wants to see them brutalized. In Australia, the hate for Mundine is UGLY among some circles, even for a man who’s every fight has been on PPV. In the US, people still despise Antonio Margarito for the gloves thing.

by VirtualBalboa on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Whys everyone so down on Mundine?

His level of competition has been crap but he has some skills and has fought a few good guys like Kessler and looked competitve’ish
Of course Mundines done nothing to deserve this shot
I really dont want see margarito anymore though- hes nt gonna win, no way- too small too slow etc- and he could get hurt really badly
Well wanting rubio to win here so all this doesnt matter !

by bob12345678990 on Jan 18, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

Because his level of competition is crap and he uses other peoples’ names to get attention, then fights guys like Xavier Toliver.

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by Scott Christ on Jan 18, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

We are strongly forgeting that before that, Justin Bie.. i mean Julio Cesar Chavez has to pass over Rubio.

by jesusacuna on Jan 18, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

I would not care to see either of these fights. Chavez vs Sergio or Chavez vs Cotto

by Manuwar on Jan 18, 2012 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

That reads confusingly. I mean I would not care to see either of the fights listed above, Jr vs Margo or Jr vs Mundine. I’d rather see Chavez vs Sergio or Chavez vs Cotto.

by Manuwar on Jan 18, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

the man

choc used tolliver as a warm up fight anthony mundine is a very good boxer hed beat chavez youtube his fights

by briggzy on Jan 20, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

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