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Manny Pacquiao's Next Fight: Options To Be Discussed With the Fighter

We may soon know just who will be the opponent next time Manny Pacquiao steps into the ring. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

Promoter Bob Arum and adviser Michael Koncz will meet with Manny Pacquiao to discuss his options for a spring fight, according to Ronnie Nathanielsz, and right now you can likely count out Floyd Mayweather Jr -- but it's a "for now" thing, as Pacquiao vs Mayweather may indeed be an option in late 2012.

Right now the likely options for Pacquiao are:

Juan Manuel Marquez: A fourth fight between the two is desired by both fighters, and it's what Bob Arum wants, at least if he's stayed consistent since their third bout on November 12. The hiccups are clear: Marquez will want a lot of money, says he won't fight Pacquiao in Vegas again (Texas is OK, though), and isn't going to act like a pure B-side in negotiations. But Marquez does want it. That much is known.

Miguel Cotto: Cotto makes money and makes sense from a business standpoint. We have heard on our site some fans balking about whether or not it's competitive. I have admitted many times I'm a bigger fan of their first fight than many were, so I'm OK with it, but I do believe there would be some "this again?" backlash even more than a fourth fight with Marquez would see.

Timothy Bradley: Tim is ready and willing. It's all about whether or not Top Rank thinks the time is right to go this route, or whether or not he becomes the best option by process of elimination.

Lamont Peterson: The dark horse. Peterson says he's ready to go. I think this is option number four, really. Peterson has increased value after upsetting Amir Khan, but is definitely not a star, and isn't in any better a position than Bradley. Bradley, unlike Peterson, is promoted by Top Rank. This matters.

Say these are your options -- what's your order of preference?

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Bradley …. Freshest of the group. Plus he decisively beat Peterson.

Cotto ……. Miguel gets paid well to try to avenge his undeniable second loss. Me think unsuccessfully.

Marquez….These two could fight until they are fifty and their fights would look the same unless Marquez gets real careless which, with age, wisdom and restaint, is all the less likely. Their fights IMO will continue to be tension conventions with rounds almost impossible to score.

Peterson….Just not that interested. Beating Khan who opens fast but closes poorly does not tell me that Lamont could compete with Manny. Plus LP gets dropped so often early, he would be digging himself out of a hole the whole fight. Against a windstorm.

In all cases, we get to see how focused and where Manny is. I am coming to the conclusion until I see otherwise that he may have left everything on the table in Dallas, where he fought his biggest and toughest fight against Margarito.

His victories over Margarito, Cotto, Clottey, Hatton, Oscar, etc were…in my forming opinion..his absolute prime at this weight.

He began cramping beating upon Mosely; something neither Freddie nor Ariza seemed prepared for and/or ready for to happen again. We hear a lot fom Ariza when things are going well but, as the S and C man in Manny’s mp, he does not seem to have much to say in addressing this condition.

It may very well be (and is probable) that we have seen the very best of Manny. Any of the above fights will tell us more.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 3, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

Agree, and that’s why Pac’s team needs to look at the fight that will bring him the MOST money with least risk…………………………….I’d go with Cotto.

by DPlainview on Jan 3, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

1-4

1. Cotto (it helps keep cotto doing work with T.R.) 2. Peterson (helps with the buildup for the Bradley fight) 3. Marquez (Not again) 4. Bradley (not time just yet). How it really needs to go down. Pacquiao Rematchs Cotto and Bradley and marquez fight it out to see who faces the winner of Cotto/Pac. This keeps everything Top Rank Money for all of 2012. Fuck peterson. He should give khan the rematch asap.

by DiE_HARDFER on Jan 3, 2012 12:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Bradley fighting Marquez is a fight I would really like to see but never thought of. It would absolutely tell me where both men were at and set the stage for a Pacquiao fight next. Or anyone else their size for that matter.

Bradley could use more seasoning to make hima bigger attraction but cylee thinks he is not only ready for Manny …but that he would beat him.

We have a side bet if they fight. I FedEx home cooked crow for him to eat if Bradley loses. Or the other way around if he wins. Which I doubt.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 3, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 3:57 AM EST up reply actions  

That extra seasoning for Bradly could go on your crow!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Smartes sequence from a won-lost perspective

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)

by Boss Man on Jan 3, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

smartest

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)

by Boss Man on Jan 3, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

cotto
marquez
bradley
peterson

by el javi on Jan 3, 2012 2:02 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

I prefer that he fight someone young this time. Bradley and Peterson. Also, I think they’re good style match-ups for Pacman. Then Marquez, just because I think Juan Manuel deserves it. Cotto doesn’t interest me.

by Areglado on Jan 3, 2012 2:26 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t want to see Pacquiao against Marquez at all. We just saw it last November and frankly I would rather see something else. I guess I wouldn’t object to the fight being made because Marquez certainly earned it, but it would have to be supported by a strong undercard for me to buy it.

I think Marquez should go on to fight Tim Bradley. It’s a fight that makes a ton of sense and Marquez has already dropped Bradley’s name in the press. It is an excellent styles matchup and I would personally love to see it as a fan of both fighters, but especially of Bradley. I think Tim wins that fight convincingly, and sets himself perfectly as a potential Pacquiao foe, possibly fighting up into welterweight while Pacquiao finally fights Mayweather in the fall and then fighting him afterward, or maybe outright fighting Pacquiao if the Floyd thing falls through,.

Cotto is still one of the best and most active fighters in the sport. I would also like to see him fight with an actual trainer in his corner, and I believe his avenging the Margarito loss will really help his mental strength in upcoming fights.

I don’t think Peterson has the skillset to even threaten Pacquaio, and frankly I think Pacqioau would take him apart. My preference for Pacquiao opponents is definitely Cotto, Bradley, Marquez and Peterson in that order, although I think making Bradley-Pacquiao right now would be a massive mistake.

by theninthlayer on Jan 3, 2012 3:02 AM EST reply actions  

all smart comments, sir

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Peterson is more skillful than Cotto, so I don’t understand how he is not skillful enough to face Pacquiao. Peterson may or may not be at the level of Cotto or Pacquiao yet, but there are many things that he does better than Cotto in the fundamentals department.

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 4:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Cotto has one skill far greater than Peterson. Punching with power.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 3, 2012 5:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Punching power is overrated! All someone needs is a punch that can keep pple honest! The rest is just skills. Bradley is no Bailey, but he ain’t no Malignaggi either. The same could be said of Peterson. Cotto’s style is vulnerable to Pacquiao’s every time: a speedster with high volume, weird angles, and punching power.

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 5:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone including Marquez is

vulnerable to Pacquiao’s every time: a speedster with high volume, weird angles, and punching power.

He may not have fallen the last time but he is still vulnerable to the unconventional Filipino. And he knows it…hence his defensive offense.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 4, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

1.) bradley 2.) peterson 3.) who cares

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 3:58 AM EST reply actions  

We’ve seen marquez vs. pacquiao 1-3. Chances are it’ll be like part 3 except slightly worse: marquez would be older plus the weight gain… pacquiao might be equally unmotivated and give another poor showing with nothing learned since part 1 or 2… Cotto’s defense is still questionable, though now he has a real corner and trainer. Who cares? Styles make fights, and Pacquiao is best at fighting bigger guys who are either boxer punchers (Mosley or Cotto) or straightforward, face first fighters (Margarito, Hatton) or old fighters (Oscar, Mosley), but once some fighter has boxing skills they frustrate the heck out of Pacquiao (Mosley’s game plan, Clottey, Marquez). Bradley and Peterson can both box, and if Peterson does pressure he does it effectively with head movement and body shots and a tight guard. Pacquiao has been picking man, and pple who don’t give Peterson a chance are not seeing his skills. Sometimes pple confuse talent/potential/athletic ability with high level, elite skills as if they were the same thing. Sometimes they come together (Pacquiao, Mayweather, Prime Shane Mosley, Roy Jones in his prime, Jermaine Taylor in his prime, Gamboa, Donaire), and sometimes they do not (Bhop – fantastic skill but not the greatest of athletic prowess, Andre Ward, Bradley, Peterson). An example of the former would be Andre Berto, Amir Khan, Andre Dirrell, Zab Judah … fighters with HUGE ability and athletic prowess, but incomplete fighters and not necessarily trying to master the craft and have the complete skillset. With that said, I feel Bradley has fundamentals and skills that Pacquiao does not have even though he is not the same phenomenal athlete, and I think Peterson has some things in his skill set that will give Pacquiao problems (his height and reach, boxing skills, defense, body punching). Plus Pacquiao is no longer the hungry wolf he once was, he is now a part time fighter, and full time politician, celebrity, and public figure. Pacquiao will no longer hang with the best the longer his career drags on.

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 4:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree with all of this – which I think is very good analysis.

"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."

by Oli Goldstein on Jan 3, 2012 6:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I must say I cannot understand wanting to see a Cotto rematch more than a Marquez rematch. I think we’re likely to see the same thing as before in both, but the “same thing” in one is a competitive fight and in the other is not. Beating Mayorga and Margarito does not convince me that Cotto performs significantly better against Pacquiao even with the trainer situation no longer being a problem; Pacquiao will still have the same significant advantages he had last time.

by bachwards on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 AM EST reply actions  

agreed

except Pacquiao is slightly worse, but the rest I agree with.

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to see a Marquez rematch, because I think he’d win it even more convincingly than November this time around. Even so, I’m expecting one of the two safest fights of the four, which would be either a Cotto rematch or a Peterson fight. Pacquiao’s proven mortality – and obvious pervading flaws exposed by shot Shane Mosley and old, fat Marquez – means that Arum needs to preserve him for the Mayweather money fight in November. I’ll be surprised if they risk Pacquiao on either Marquez or Bradley, and if they do, it’s because Pacquiao’s insisted on a Marquez rematch or they’ve underestimated what Timothy Bradley can do in the ring.

"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."

by Oli Goldstein on Jan 3, 2012 4:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I don’t think risk will be the determining issue.
Money and terms will.

Manny is fearless and has proven that over and over that he will fight anyone, and not just once. On more than one occasion he has re-matched and then re-matched again to prove himself and please his fans.

All of these fights are entertaining but Bradley is the freshest youngest and undefeated of the group. Thus my prefence.

I also dont subscribe to the Pacquaio Mayweather fight and a possible Pacquaio loss as a deal breaker for a mega match with Manny and Floyd later. They are the two names that still define this game and they have audiences waiting this long who have paid for far less far too often.

A close fight between JMM and Pacquaio won’t kill the goose. It may change the numbers but who cares. It would still make a fortune.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 3, 2012 5:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not doubting Manny’s fearlessness. But we’re dealing with a fighter who constantly emphasises that Bob Arum is who chooses who he fights, and ultimately Arum will be the man who evaluates the risk. As such, given his history of matching fighters, I’d be pretty surprised to see Manny in with Marquez or Bradley, at least while he can still fight the likes of Peterson and Cotto and sell 1.4 million odd PPVs. I know this is a lot of conjecture, but figuring in Manny’s retirement plans and his actual economic viability, I’d say a fight against one of Marquez or Bradley would still be a big seller after a Mayweather fight, should he lose if that fight takes place. However, should he lose this Spring and then again lose to Mayweather, future fights are less attractive and a couple of losses (or even one) could just hurry Manny down the retirement way. Of course, he could always surprise me and fight and beat Marquez in the Spring, but I’d be very surprised in both eventualities.

I realise that a Manny loss doesn’t dramatically change the Mayweather pot, but it would certainly lead to the Pacquiao team having to take a (significantly) reduced pot, while simultaneously reducing the attractiveness of the bout from a PPV perspective. I’m unsure whether that’s a risk Arum is willing to take.

"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."

by Oli Goldstein on Jan 3, 2012 6:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m unsure whether that’s a risk Arum is willing to take.

I don’t think he would. He is very good about analyzing risk-reward equations

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)

by Boss Man on Jan 3, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Manny evaluates the risks and rewards based on the deals Arum presents him with.

The idea that he is a pawn is more myth than fact. It is simply not the case.

He makes decisions based on calculations and opportunities that are presented by his promoter who has a team of matchmakers, lawyers, deal makers, etc working for him. many might argue sone of the best in the business.

Sorry to burst any outstanding bubbles but Manny at this point is like a preferred client at Goldman. He looks at the recommendations of the company that has mad him rich beyond any reasonable expectation….and he chooses. He may do so in a manner that looks collective but it is still his choice.

Now that said, it is fair to assume Arum and Co will make their arguments in presenting opportunities and thus have great influence…but it is Manny that decides.

It is also him that instructs. Any and all efforts to make a deal with Mayweather will be made at his request and behest but all the kings horses and all the kings men can’t make Floyd do anything Floyd doesn’t really want to do.

That is the difference between a superstar fighter who self promotes without a contract and one who doesn’t. It is also the main reason duBoef or anyone else can’t make the fight. One of the two fighters has no obligation to do so.

Arum has literally told his staff to go get the fight but you still don’t see one. The reason is that one of the fighters isn’t ready to negotiate.

Let’s hope time and a little less money change that….but I have long ago stopped caring.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 4, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to see him fight Peterson, Manny Marquez has been done to death and seems like a waste of a fight if you know what I mean. Peterson may not be the “star” just yet, but give him his turn and he may well be. From what I hear about him on here, he could just give Manny a great fight.

by Phill on Jan 3, 2012 5:20 AM EST reply actions  

I think so!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 5:39 AM EST up reply actions  

And awell desewrved payday that would make the rest of his life a lot better than the earlier part was.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)

by Boss Man on Jan 3, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

A worthy challenger if ever there was one.

by Phill on Jan 3, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed

He’s earned every penny

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 4, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe an Ortiz fight… not only is it Floyd’s leftovers, but he has limited defense and a dentible chin, an exciting style, and weird quotes!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 5:43 AM EST reply actions  

Ortiz-Pacquiao is not a bad promotion, and it would be a FUN 24/7. The Commissions would have to interview him several times before that fight!!!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Heck! I’d see a 4th morales fight over another marquez fight! Manny vs. Maidana would be fun too!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 5:43 AM EST reply actions  

Why a fourth Morales fight? He was beaten pretty badly in the second and demolished in the third – this renaissance of sorts isn’t going to help him do much better against Manny.

I really don’t get the hate for a fourth Marquez fight. We’re guaranteed another competitive fight – although to what extent the last was really that competitive I’m unsure – and I don’t know anyone who’s earnt the shot more than Juan Manuel.

"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."

by Oli Goldstein on Jan 3, 2012 6:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

All I’m saying is I want a new opponent. And who knows? Manny is no longer the same fighter who beat Morales twice and beat Oscar/Cotto. Did we see any Manilla Ice in the Marquez fight? How about that killer lead left hand? Or the 6-8 punch combos while shuffling to the right? Or the up jab or anything that made Manny a sensation in the last 3 years? Let’s face it, Manny is a part time fighter now and a full time celebrity/politician. And also, a marquez fight will look the same way if they fought 10 times. Marquez has his number. Let’s see something different.

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 6:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Marquez having his number is precisely and primarily the reason why Pacquiao didn’t look same as he did in most of his fights over the last 3 years, not because he’s a significantly different or worse fighter now.

by bachwards on Jan 3, 2012 6:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree with you here..

"Effort without Efficiency is nonsense.." -rk mag

by richmondk on Jan 3, 2012 7:35 AM EST up reply actions  

No question

Manny is arguably coming off his prime but it was Marquez who stylistically de-clawed him.

That is one of my problems with them fighting again. The first two fights were filled of fireworks but this one was like watching Charles Ives play music in a mirror.
Crazy making.

I kept wanting a fight to break out but number three was more of a tango than a brawl.
I can’t see number four or five being any different.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 4, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think a Marquez fight will look the same, largely because I see Juan Manuel beating him more convincingly next time, but we’re in agreement that he’s got Manny’s number. And I know Manny’s not the same fighter that beat Morales, but I don’t think Erik moves well enough any more to keep Manny off-balance or away from him for prolonged periods of time. Too easy to get close to, these days, and Manny would be able to constantly get into punching range, which is what Marquez so consistently denied him. Still, it probably wouldn’t look like the third fight – agreed there.

"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."

by Oli Goldstein on Jan 3, 2012 6:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He killed Morales again and again

I love El Terrible but no mas with Manny.

And I really don’t ever see Marquez doing anything but at most squeaking by Manny…because he can’t ever get extra points.

In three fights, he hasn’t knocked him down and scored an extra point once. On the other hand, if he falls one more time ( should they fight again) and he wont be able to catch up on the scorecards without risking another fall.

But hey, they are two of the best in this era so if they go again, I’m game.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 4, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Morales is a brutal defeat waiting to happen. Those rings around his handlebars were not tatoos

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)

by Boss Man on Jan 3, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 4, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

why hasn't maidana

been given some serious consideration, that guy can hit hard. We seen his performance against khan, gathered khan isn’t as good as previously thought but i would certainly be very interested in manny v maidana.

by Bald-Eagle on Jan 3, 2012 6:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Maidana is with Golden Boy. Unfortunately that’s pretty much reason enough, though I also don’t think he’d very competitive at all and that his power at 140 was a bit overrated. Roach said a few months ago he thought they should fight, but he has no real say and that comment was just Roach being Roach

by bachwards on Jan 3, 2012 7:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Maidana would be a fun fight, but not a competitive fight. Maidana has balls, and he would know if he didn’t take Manny out early he’d be in trouble. Therefore he would go balls to the wall, and Manny loves a good fight. It would be fun. It would be different from the Khan fight b/c Manny can move his feet better and more effectively, and he has better defense, and he can move and punch more effectively.

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

its entertainment people we want, th whole marquez thing doesnt do it anymore.. Marquez would win again anyway. Maidana would be a great fight to watch, then maybe peterson and hopefully mayweather.

by Bald-Eagle on Jan 3, 2012 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

great schedule! Well, marquez also is a tactical battle, not a slugfest, but I would pay money money money for your schedule. Esp. if Maidana knocks out Alexander, it could make for a great fight. I wouldn’t be agst alexander, who’s a slick southpaw if he wins impressively agst Maidana (that “slick African American style”). But anyway, lemme phone HBO, we have Bald-Eagle matchmaker!!!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Pacquiao would destroy Maidana. I mean demolish him. It would be absurd, how grotesque a mismatch that fight turned out to be.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Jan 3, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

But a fun mismatch!!!

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

And you know “Chino” wouldn’t give a shit, he’ll go after that like a tiger after a piece of meat. Though if an Old Morales can give him trouble and he wouldn’t want to rematch him, then yes, a Pacquiao would destroy him…

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Pacquiao would make him look like he’s fighting underwater.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Jan 3, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Like this?

http://youtu.be/3Ffs_5DMJLw?t=2m46s

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

Pretty much. goddamn I love JCVD. Fuck a Chuck Norris.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Jan 3, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Your language is deterioriating. I sthat an Indiana influence thing?

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)

by Boss Man on Jan 3, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going to say no, because I’ve always been a foul language lover, but maybe it is — I hate Indiana so “fucking” much that it’s become more frequent than ever.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Jan 3, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The only good thing about where I live is it’s close to Chicago and Michigan. I cannot imagine living in central Indiana. It’s like Nebraska without all the glamor.

Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."

by Scott Christ on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Hoosiers are true assholes perhaps only outdone by badgers

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant."
-- Vernon Forrest (1971-2009)

by Boss Man on Jan 3, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Because he’s with GoldenBoy

by RRod806 on Jan 3, 2012 2:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

If I were Manny's promoter for a day...

Here’s my preference for the choices offered:

1. Peterson
2. Bradley
3. Marquez
4. Cotto

But for maximum entertainment value, and the possibility of re-igniting Manny’s rep as the most exciting fighter on the planet, here’s the dream list:

1. Rios
2. Diaz
3. Maidana
4. Berto

Manny’s handlers need to do something to get people jazzed about him again, in possible build-up to a Mayweather payoff, and the four opponents above are pretty much guaranteed to do it, without, I think much chance that Manny will lose.

by Wlksrck on Jan 3, 2012 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

i was scratching my head… juan? haha…

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree with you, he needs to fights any of these: berto, ortiz, rios or maidana to make people believe him again… if he fights bradley there is a big chance he gets schooled again…

by EL CIERTO (VEN) on Jan 3, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

THANK YOU, someone else out there also feels that bradley, aka- someone other than mayweather, can beat Pacquiao. Well, and besides marquez (b/c marquez whooped his tail! PED’s my foot!)

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

acosta hurt and stunned rios, pacquiao will knock him out in the mid rounds. ortiz can drop pacquiao, but more likely he’ll run or go crazy before the end of the fight. Berto can hurt pacquiao, but pacquiao will late some more hurt. Collazo, a southpaw gave berto some problems. maidana pacquiao will be electrifying… all 4 rounds…

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim Bradley beats fellas

He doesn’t school them.

You been smoking too much of your own product cylee

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 4, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

in order..id prefer 1)cotto 2)marquez 3)bradley 4) peterson..

with mayweather’s prison stint…what i would really want to happen is cotto fighting canelo..marquez squaring off with bradley..winner getting pacman..peterson vs khan..and finally pac facing the berto ortiz winner..but what very unlikely but just wishful thinking i guess

by Vicmatic1 on Jan 3, 2012 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

Some pretty good wishful thinking. I kind of like it.

"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."

by cylee1180 on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It's pretty sweet positioning

Look off your muscle in one fight and everyone looks like a good option.

Christ, even Floyd wants to fight him now.

If I didn’t know better I would think that Arum instructed him to take his foot off the pedal against JMM just to sell him at a higher price. Bastard.

I mean we all know Manny does exactly what he is told.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 4, 2012 1:49 AM EST reply actions  

I think Manny is getting bored of fighting.

I think a Berto/ Ortiz/ Rios/ Maidana would be maximum entertainment not just for the fans but for Manny too, he loves a good brawl, he loves keeping the fans on edge and hearing the fans go wild.

I feel his last two fights with Mosley and Marquez have just fustrated him since they were more of a chess match. Him getting fustrated will probably make him want to retire sooner then if he was having fun the ring.

I would rather see him fight four not so competitive but entertaining fights with Ortiz, Berto, Maidana and Rios rather then see him fight two competitive rights with Bradley/Marquez then see him retire Cos they left him fuatrated and bored with boxing.

In short I think a fight with those 4 would resicure mannys position as the most exciting fighter and relight mannys love for boxing

by TheBod on Jan 4, 2012 10:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Very interesting perspective

I can’t disagree

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Jan 5, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

1. Marquez. I’m a sucker for these guys, like watching the proverbial irresistible force and immoveable object go at it again and again.

2. Bradley. He’s young, good, with rumors of Pacquiao’s erosion swirling around (I don’t buy into these too much). I’d like to see it.

3. Cotto. There’s just too much rumor and speculation about what may have been going on in his head after that 2008 Margarito fight, and that for me cast a bit of a shadow over his performances until recently. I’d like to see what he can do now against Pacquiao, if anything.

4. Maybe Khan or a run at the Philippine presidency. I don’t care.

by DrRck on Jan 4, 2012 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

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