Andre Ward Talks Next Fight, Believes Donaire Too Good For Rigondeaux
World super middleweight champion Andre Ward spoke with Chris Robinson of the Examiner, and gave his thoughts on a potential matchup between Nonito Donaire and Guillermo Rigondeaux, as well as what's next for his own career.
On Donaire vs Rigondeaux:
"Nonito is clearly a friend of mine but he’s a beast. When the lights are bright he shows up and I don’t think that will happen. If Nonito Donaire fights Rigondeaux, he’s going to bring it. He’s fast, he’s powerful, he does a lot of different stuff. It’s going to be a different night if Rigondeaux fights Nonito."
Apparently the lights at the MSG Theater weren't bright enough in October, when Donaire faced Omar Narvaez and struggled to show any of his normal flash and highlight reel material. It may have been the only time where a guy has won 12-0 on the cards and been kind of disappointing.
The Narvaez matchup leads many to believe -- myself included -- that Rigondeaux could be terrible for Donaire. Like Narvaez, Rigondeaux isn't a risk-taker, and doesn't screw up in the ring and give fighters big openings.
Unlike Narvaez, Rigondeaux has speed and power, and isn't a dwarf compared to Donaire, though Donaire is the bigger man. But it's interesting to see Ward's thoughts here; if you had to bet your last dollar, listen to the world champion fighter and not me. He's very friendly with Donaire, but he was also ringside for Rigondeaux's thwarting of Rico Ramos last Friday, so he's seen both men up close.
As for his own career, Ward is saying little:
"We’re just trying to put the pieces together. There’s a lot of moving pieces right now and we’re just trying to figure out what’s realistic. Hopefully, within the next three to four weeks, we’ll have something to give to the fans and give to the media."
That's a lot of words about moving pieces being put together to find out what's realistic and all, but Ward is clearly uninterested in fighting Lucian Bute in April, and there's just not many interesting fights for him at 168 pounds besides Bute. That's the curse of the Super Six -- Ward has already beaten guys like Carl Froch and Mikkel Kessler, and so convincingly that rematches aren't really thrilling on paper.
After that, and without Bute, you're getting into what, guys like Brian Magee and Glen Johnson? Ward's already beaten Sakio Bika, too. His WBC mandatory is Anthony Dirrell, who isn't top ten in the division. Until proven otherwise, you can forget about Ward and buddy Andre Dirrell hooking up, since they already went to great lengths to avoid that once.
Without Bute in the mix, there really aren't very many "pieces" moving at all.
This idea that Ward has occasionally, sort of quietly tried to sell that Bute doesn't deserve the shot since he didn't compete in the Super Six is complete bullshit, too, if you'll allow me to be totally honest. Along with Froch, Ward has beaten guys like Sakio Bika (Bute beat him first), a reeling Arthur Abraham, and Allan Green within his last four fights.
That's really not that much better than Bute's last four over Johnson, Magee, Jean Paul Mendy and Jesse Brinkley. It is better, yes, but it's not so much better that Ward has any legitimate case, just on the basis of what's been "earned," for not fighting Lucian Bute right now. Bute is the worldwide No. 2 in the weight class, the fight is worth money, and Bute has said he'd travel to do it, even though really it doesn't make sense for him to leave Quebec, even to fight Andre Ward.
Hopefully Ward does announce something within a month or so, but I'm not going to hold my breath. I think he really wants that "break" he was talking about.
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Lucian Bute is the best test for him right now but with all thats going on with Bute and Carl Froch and there history i think its going to happen before Ward and Bute, which would be far more exciting. Any more been said on that fight?
It's not the creed, religion nor the nationality that counts, but the man himself
by Bald-Eagle on Jan 24, 2012 7:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Probably not happening in April, maybe this summer in Montreal.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 24, 2012 7:32 AM EST up reply actions
If it's this summer, does it mean that they'll sign for only one fight?
by MontrealBoxing on Jan 24, 2012 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
As long as it happens. Is there any chance that this turns into Pacquiao/Mayweather?
by RRod806 on Jan 24, 2012 8:37 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Summer would be Bute-Froch. Ward is doing nothing.
Also, it can’t turn into Pacquiao-Mayweather because not enough people really care. It would be closer to, I don’t know, Jones-Michalczewski or something.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
he can“t fight on april, what about his broken hand?
by EL CIERTO (VEN) on Jan 24, 2012 9:52 AM EST reply actions
Is there still a chance of Froch/Bute in April?
Who is Showtime pushing Bute to face? Will Bute just go outside of Showtime for his next fight like he did against Mendy?
Is there still a chance of Froch/Bute in April?
Slight chance.
Who is Showtime pushing Bute to face?
Ward, and vice versa.
Will Bute just go outside of Showtime for his next fight like he did against Mendy?
That wasn’t Bute’s decision, but he might not be televised on Showtime in April.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 24, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
count me now interested in rigondeaux/donaire…which means of course it will never happen.
I kinda get ward’s point regarding bute’s resume, but there’s no other interesting or worthwhile matchup besides getting these 2 in the ring together. I also believe he intends to take that minor ‘break’ he spoke of, but what’s the game plan after that, especially if bute faces froch?
by KidSleez on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Regardless of opinions out there, Ward has fought more annually than most modern boxers out there, esp. those at the elite level.
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
Regardless of you saying that, it’s not really true. Twice a year is pretty much industry standard at the higher levels.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Jan 24, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
"elite level"
OK, the top five guys, just by my rankings, in each division in the sport, and their number of fights in 2011:
Heavyweight
Wladimir Klitschko – 1
Vitali Klitschko – 2
Tomasz Adamek – 2
Alexander Povetkin – 2
Chris Arreola – 5
Cruiserweight
Marco Huck – 3
Denis Lebedev – 2
Steve Cunningham – 2
Krzysztof Wlodarczyk – 2
Yoan Pablo Hernandez – 2
Light Heavyweight
Bernard Hopkins – 2
Chad Dawson – 2
Jean Pascal – 1
Tavoris Cloud – 1
Gabriel Campillo – 2
Super Middleweight
Andre Ward – 2
Lucian Bute – 3
Mikkel Kessler – 1
Carl Froch – 2
Andre Dirrell – 1
Middleweight
Sergio Martinez – 2
Felix Sturm – 3
Matthew Macklin – 1
Daniel Geale – 2
Dmitry Pirog – 2
Junior Middleweight
Miguel Cotto – 2
Canelo Alvarez – 3
Austin Trout – 3
Carlos Molina – 3
Erislandy Lara – 3
Welterweight
Floyd Mayweather – 1
Manny Pacquiao – 2
Victor Ortiz – 2
Andre Berto – 2
Jan Zaveck – 2
Junior Welterweight
Timothy Bradley – 2
Lamont Peterson – 2
Amir Khan – 3
Marcos Maidana – 2
Lucas Matthysse – 3
Lightweight
Juan Manuel Marquez – 2
Brandon Rios – 3
Miguel Vazquez – 2
Antonio DeMarco – 2
Jorge Linares – 2
Super Featherweight
Takashi Uchiyama – 2
Takahiro Ao – 2
Juan Carlos Salgado – 3
Argenis Mendez – 3
Roman Martinez – 1
Featherweight
Yuriorkis Gamboa – 2
Chris John – 2
Orlando Salido – 3
Juan Manuel Lopez – 2
Celestino Caballero – 3
Super Bantamweight
Toshiaki Nishioka – 2
Guillermo Rigondeaux – 1
Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym – 4
Victor Terrazas – 4
Akifumi Shimoda – 3
Bantamweight
Nonito Donaire – 2
Abner Mares – 2
Anselmo Moreno – 2
Joseph Agbeko – 2
Vic Darchinyan – 3
Super Flyweight
Omar Narvaez – 4
Tomonobu Shimizu – 2
Hugo Cazares – 3
Suriyan Sor Rungvisai – 5
Tepparith Kokietgym – 4
Flyweight
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam – 7
Hernan Marquez – 3
Brian Viloria – 2
Moruti Mthalane – 2
Giovani Segura – 3
Junior Flyweight
Roman Gonzalez – 3
Ulises Solis – 2
Kompayak Porpramook – 7
Donnie Nietes – 2
Adrian Hernandez – 3
Strawweight
Nkosinathi Joyi – 1
Kazuto Ioka – 3
Moises Fuentes – 3
Raul Garcia – 3
Denver Cuello – 4
Of these 85 fighters, 75 of them (86.2%) fought at least two times in 2011, and 33 of them (37.9%) fought more than twice, though most of those are in the lower divisions.
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
typo
88.2%
Bad Left Hook
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by Scott Christ on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
anthony the dog
i think the perfect next fight for andre is anthony dirrell
should be totally manageable for andre while at the same time potentially being a fun fight
I think the perfect next fight for Andre is Lucian Bute, the fight people want to see.
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"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 24, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions

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