Ortiz vs Berto 2: Ortiz Says Berto Rematch Was "Last Resort" (Video)
Here's a video of Victor Ortiz talking to Johnny Tapia, which sort of has the feel of Tim Johnson talking to John McCain.
Tapia: "What did you think about the first fight?"
Ortiz: "The first fight, that's the only reason I never really had the...the whoooole (1)...like...royal carpet to give him a rematch, because I beat him one-sidedly, you know? At the end of the day (1), I didn't think a person like that deserved a rematch."
Tapia: "Why are you giving him a rematch?"
Ortiz: "I'm giving him a rematch only because he's my last resort. That and the fact that even after I really thought about it, after that fight that night I beat him, I wasn't happy in the locker room. I could've done better. So you know, at the end of the day (2), it's one of those things (1) where, yeah, he's a good fighter, but in my eyes, I'm not done."
This whole bit is great, and showcases some of Ortiz's more familiar personality ticks. He manages to stumble his way into screwing up trying to say something common ("royal" carpet?), then throws in a couple "at the end of the days," then fabricates a stirring, emotional reason to want a rematch, which he just said he didn't want and is only taking because it's a last resort. Out of thin air, Victor Ortiz creates an emotional investment in this fight: After he really thought about it, he wasn't happy. No one is quite sure when he really thought about it, but I believe it's sometime in that breath of air after he said he's only giving Berto a rematch because it's his last resort.
Then he awkwardly offers Tapia a bro-hug.
Tapia: "So how did you feel when he put you down on the ground?"
Ortiz: "It was one of those things (2), the first fight I went in, I put him down first, twice, you know. The next thing you know, we went into the whoooole (2)...sixth round where I threw a hook, I'm wide open, and boom, he catches me, I went down. But I got up, because I knew I was gonna be champ that night."
Tapia: "Is he a hard hitter?"
Ortiz: "He's a decent hitter. But if you're not looking, and you're off-guard, of course anybody will hit hard, you know, especially on the button right there, you know, so... I was a newcomer to 147. That was my first fight at 147."
Tapia: "Do you feel good at 47?"
Ortiz: "Yeah, I feel good. I feel good -- especially now. I've put on some weight muscle-wise, you know -- I've been working hard."
Tapia: "Does Mayweather still bug you?"
Ortiz: "No. Mayweather does not bother me one bit. That stayed in the past. That night, it happened, I left it there."
Ortiz gonna Ortiz. He does know a thing or two about being hit when he's not looking. He should consider looking more often.
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Should be a fun fight.
Winner gets Amir Khan at 147. I don’t think Amir will get the rematch with Peterson and will move up to face one of these two guys.
"Heaven doesn’t want me and hell is afraid I will take over". - Bobby Czyz
I didn’t get why you gave him so much grief but now I get it. Dude is from another planet. At least he makes for entertaining fights so there’s that.
by TheDreadedMarco on Jan 25, 2012 1:53 PM EST reply actions
Thanks Scott
Now everytime he talks I’m expecting the “at the end of the day” comment. Hilarious
I didn’t even notice that until he started typing out his quotes. It’s like when people say “um” 12 times in a sentence.
by TheDreadedMarco on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Ortiz is pretty media-savvy honestly. He’s making himself somebody you have to feel something about, either you’ll be rooting for him or against him but either way you’re watching. I don’t like the guy much but I’m always interested in seeing him fight.
My real concern here is to what extent Ortiz buys his own talk. I still think he’s a quitter at heart and I believe he quit against Mayweather (and there is a gut part of me that thinks the whole sequence was scripted tbh). The first fight between him and Berto was very close and I’d have to think he knows it too. I get the impression he’s using all this talk to cover up his own doubt and insecurity, but then again he could come into the fight with the same determination he showed against Berto the first time.
This is definitely a fight I’m looking forward to.
Media-Saavy? I don’t think this is intentional. He’s just a moron who says funny stuff unintentionally. He’s trying to be serious, but “at the end of the day”, he just can’t muster up the words. If this is intentional, this is the weirdest strategy ever.
In the 'reality TV' sense of the word, maybe.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
Yeah, but if this is really a strategy then yes, I have to say the kid is a genius because he really comes across as an absolute moron.
Good smile
Right demographic.
Lots of loose screws
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
I actually think Ortiz believes what he says in front of cameras...
I remember in 24/7 that Victor kept saying that he wasn’t worried about Mayweather and that Floyd wasn’t that great of a fighter. He actually took a day off of training (against his trainer’s wishes) to go fishing. Which I thought was hilarious, because it’s very hard to take a fighter seriously when he looks like a happy five year old who just caught his first fish.
Seems like a nice kid
Not that smart but certainly smart enough to have our attention.
He has skills and he has shown the will (at least once). Any or every time he fights like he did against Ortiz he will be in the hunt. I think he was game against Floyd and that despite getting whackedhe was still hunting.
I’m wondering at what wait this kid stops growing/fighting. He’s already a full welter and he just arrived.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali
With the way he’s built, I really think he’ll be fine at 154 eventually, too. Talent and size-wise, I mean. God knows when he might go off the deep end for good and lose effectiveness. 160 probably a bit far for him. Likely loses his power, which is his biggest asset.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 25, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
By the way, I know it seems like I don’t, but I really mean it: I love having Victor Ortiz in boxing. He’s batshit insane and I find him fascinating. I don’t like him, but I don’t hate him. He’s the most interesting interview in boxing because you really never know what “me vs the world” shit he’s going to come up with next, or as above, when he’s going to completely fabricate emotion. This is a guy who has watched Remember the Titans too many times.
Bad Left Hook
"To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day..."
by Scott Christ on Jan 25, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I always thought Ortiz was kinda silly, but people on this forum make me realize how funny he is, to the full potential of Ortiz-Jokes.
I think he should stay at 147… He definitely is a huge puncher and his hydration rate is crazy. Don’t see him fighting past 32, but I think he’ll have a decent career. That last picture posted made him look like a body builder.
A firestorm to purify.

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