Williams vs Ishida: Live Results and Round-By-Round Coverage
Tonight at 10 p.m. EST, Showtime goes live from Corpus Christi, Texas, with a double-header featuring former welterweight and junior middleweight titlist Paul Williams facing Nobuhiro Ishida in a bounce-back fight, and IBF light heavyweight titlist Tavoris Cloud defending against Gabriel Campillo.
Early Undercard Results
Chris Arreola knocked out Eric Molina in the first round, then turned his post-fight interview focus on Don King.
Malik Scott returned from a three-year break to beat Kendrick Releford.
In a big upset, Justin Williams (4-5-1, 2 KO) beat Alfonso Lopez (22-3, 17 KO) by unanimous decision in six rounds. Williams dropped Lopez in the second round.
But first at 8 p.m. EST, Showtime Extreme goes live with Barry Tompkins and Steve Farhood on the microphones, and Chris Arreola in a featured undercard bout against Eric Molina in the heavyweight division.
This is a new idea at Showtime Sports, which was supposed to debut last weekend on the rescheduled Ortiz vs Berto II card, but instead will get its first run tonight. It's a great idea that hopefully boxing fans will embrace -- the UFC has conditioned fight fans to care about the entire card by offering more than just their main card fights for everyone to see, and this is a step in that direction for boxing.
Bad Left Hook will have live, round-by-round results for all the action, starting with the prelim show at 8. So join us tonight for more boxing as we wrap up a long day of coverage.
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SHO Extreme is live. Standard def!
Ugh, they’re hyping Malik Scott.
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is show time streaming it online?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
No.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't watched a ton of boxing lately
But I’m very excited about the deep undercards being televised. I also think Cloud-Campillo will be a technical barnburner.
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Scott is so overrated
Releford might pull off the upset here. Probably not, but he’s no pushover.
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Last couple times I’ve seen Releford, he’d lost a couple steps.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
That stinks
He’s never had the power to be a real upset threat, but he usually fights close.
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Malik Scott (32-0, 11 KO) vs Kendrick Releford (22-15-2, 10 KO) – REPEAT OR REVENGE?!?!?
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Malik Scott is like a slightly less exciting version of Kevin Johnson
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Holy God, apparently Chisora and Haye got into a fight at the press conference. Jesus Christ.
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I think I jsut saw two of Scott's tattoos getting into a fight
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Ugh, I was gonna do RBR for this, but it’s Malik Scott and there are apparently fistfights between more interesting guys in Germany, so I’m just watching and not doing full RBR until I get something more on that.
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Barry Tompkins already best PBP man at Showtime Sports
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Scott 10-9
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Scott's getting the better so far
But Releford is hitting him plenty
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20-18 Scott
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I’ve never seen Scott before, but he doesn’t look half bad. In shape, solid technique, fast hands, throws in combination.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions
How cool is it they are showing these deep undercards for hardcore fans.
Like Brick, I’m pretty excited by this idea. Even if I don’t plan on focusing closely, it’s great to have the option to have these on in the background.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Decent inside action right now.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
30-27
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Releford looked better about 25 pounds lighter
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I'm not sure I'd favor Scott against Oquendo much less Klitschko
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But
I’d easily favor him against several guys in the top 10, like Dimitrenko or Thompson. He beats almost any stiff fighter who isn’t a big puncher.
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Arreola looks downright in shape right now
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How much more likable of a guy is Arreola than Chisora.
I really do want Arreola to do something good. I just like him.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
From Chris Mannix:
Chisora and Haye are now yelling at each other. Incredible … Chisora yelling “how’s your toe” over and over. Now he’s rushing Haye. they are brawling. … Still brawling. Haye threw the first punch. … Chisora: “I’m going to shoot you. I’m going to physically shoot David Haye.” … Chisora claiming Haye hit him with a bottle. … Wladimir is standing on a chair laughing. Gives me two thumbs up. He’s loving this. … Chisora: “If David doesn’t fight me, I’m going to find him on the street and kill him. I’ll burn him.” … Adam Booth is beeding from a cut on his skull. Chisora telling him, “look in my eyes, I’m going to kill your fighter.” … Haye and Chisora are gone. A giddy Wladimir Klitschko is doing interviews. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him have this much fun. … I’m told that the police are waiting for Chisora outside. Don’t know who called them, but they are here for them.
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I hope there's video
Wlad must’ve been laughing his ass off.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
nice to see they're grown ups
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Chisora’s brave, and reasonably skilled, but he’s clearly nuts.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
yeah, I used to think this was calculated "bad boy" publicity stuff, but now I'm not so sure...
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
he's off his rocker
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
The idea of Wlad standing in a chair like some kid, pointing and laughing at two grown men brawling whilst everyone else is losing their shit trying to stop the guys from offing each other tickles the shit out of me.
by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
yeah me too
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Scott looks pretty good given the layoff (not much has changed), but my attention is drifting too.
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Sure
But I still don’t like him to be more than a fringe contender. He’s a slickster who might be able to give certain fighters some trouble, but he’ll never beat a true top fighter. A boxer will outbox him, but he can probably outbox the occasional slugger.
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No I don’t think he’s going anywhere either, but for a long layoff, he’s sharp.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
YES! Chuck Giampa tonight!
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Scott is a HW who fights like a mediocre bantamweight
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79-73, 80-72, 80-72 for Malik Scott
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Giampa… well, he isn’t losing his place and cursing on live TV. That’s a start.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions
Is that Oliver McCall training Estrada?
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yup
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
I am such a big fan of being able to watch deep undercard fights on TV in HD
Even without the HD it would be awesome
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Stupid ass comcast doesn’t have SHO Extreme in HD, but this is as good as a legal stream anyway
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Arreola fighting yet?
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Arreola looks a bit more jiggly than he was in his last few fights. They said he was 5-10 pounds heavier.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions
Arreola vs Molina about to start
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ah ya; I wish I had showtime
darn hbo…………..
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
If Arreola doesn't win this within 3 rounds, it will be a disappointment
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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
pretty much.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Arreola looks as sharp as I've seen him.
Short punches. Decent power. Using his forearms to block punches. Still not moving his head, which I’ve always thought was his worst point, but I doubt that changes at this age. He’ll never be a threat to a Klitschko, but I’d like to see him against Povetkin.
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or rematch with highlander
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Arreola vs Molina Round 1

Arreola coming right to him, looking for shots. Arreola puts him on the ropes, slaps away with a jab, trying to get him to open up and drop the guard. Body shot Molina, but Arreola with a long right clipping him back. Right to the body again from Molina. He’s trying to stand his ground, but Arreola is bodying up on him pretty easily.
Arreola with a jab, then a right to the body again from Molina. Arreola shooting for a KO. Arreola isn’t wowing anyone yet, but he looks locked in. Right hand from Molina shakes Arreola! Arreola got hurt there. Molina has him on the ropes and he’s throwing! ARREOLA FIRING BACK! Hot damn!
Arreola pushing back and THERE’S A BIG RIGHT AND DOWN GOES ERIC MOLINA!
He will not get up!
Chris Arreola KO-1
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man, I wish I could have seen that live on tv
reads like a great fight.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
it was a damn fun round.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I hope it makes it way onto youtube
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
anyone catch the official time?
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Short and sweet--thank you Showtime Extreme
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I know Arreola’s waiting for a shot at a Klitschko, but I’d love to see him against an Adamek or a Chisora or one of the good Euro heavyweights.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:59 PM EST reply actions
“Why do you like getting hit?”
“I guess it’s because my dad hit me a lot!”
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:00 PM EST reply actions
I so hope they interview him
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And I also hope they play a swing bout
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Arreola: “I think Don King’s a fucking asshole and a racist.” Jim Grey pretends to be offended. I think Grey’s a fucking asshole.
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you have to love Arreola’s interviews!
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Arreola’s right, but what’s his motivation in this instance?
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
He probably wants an eliminator against a faded King fighter
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Did King do something recently? I missed it.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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There’s been a lot of issues between King and the Arreola camp.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.caller.com/news/2012/feb/16/boxing-promoter-comes-to-town-drops-king-sized/
King referred to Mexicans as ‘wetbacks’
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
.. wtf
Don King: because we’re all wetbacks, baby;
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
You would think he would know better by now.
I have no problem with Arreola calling him out for this. Screw smug Jim Grey.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
He is a world class douchebag…. I am sure when he dies… he will be waiting to interview people who come thru the gates of hell.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Fuck him
The struggle to free myself of restraints, becomes my very shackles
by battle axe of doom on Feb 18, 2012 9:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hello swing fight.
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Hmm. Better be better than his last fight
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He says he needs to be more aggressive. I say Duh.
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Tavoris will be on in about an hour.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Woof woof woof
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Woah, Lopez just got dropped by a 3-5-1 guy.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:13 PM EST reply actions
True, but misleading
Combined record of Williams’ opponents is 69-8-3. And two of those losses were an MD and SD. Not saying he’s a world beater, but better than his record.
True
I looked him up on boxrec, and I was shocked by how many guys with decent-looking records he fought. Was he an amateur star or something?
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
And that wasn’t a flash knockdown. Lopez got crushed with that. He’s lucky it happened near the end of the round.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:14 PM EST reply actions
Boy.
Kelly Pavlik’s last fight just keeps looking worse.
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10-9 Williams, 30-26
This is karmic justice for a 20-2 fighter going against a 3-5-1 guy.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:18 PM EST reply actions
You got to give props to the Arreloa for the quick 1st round KO, Williams for letting it hang out and Showtime for airing undercards.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
unexpectedly entertaining, I'm rooting for Williams
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
10-9 Lopez, 39-36 Williams
Williams waiting to counter, but in the meantime eating jabs to the mush by the dozen.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions
He can't avoid a punch
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He has the head movement of a Moai.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
touche
I found this very funny
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Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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If Williams was a little better at moving his head....
Unfortunately, I could see the judges having this fight even, and it wouldn’t be illegitimate
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10-9 Lopez, 48-46 Williams
C’mon, Williams, go for it.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:26 PM EST reply actions
I kind of hope Williams wins
But if this round finishes like I think it will, I’m still giving Lopez the win on my scorecard.
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It does
However continue to prove how crappy Pavlik got after his layoff
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10-9 Williams, 58-55
Close round, coulda been a 10-10. Disappointed Williams didn’t go all out for the win the last couple of rounds.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:30 PM EST reply actions
I had it Lopez 57-56
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57-56, 58-55, 58-55, all for Justin Williams
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Wow
good for him
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That’s what you get for being boring as hell and trying to pad your record against guys with losing records, Lopez!
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions
That makes me so happy. I mean, from his vantage point he was so close to winning so many close fights only to have it go against him, and he knows everyone dismisses him as a 3-5-1 guy, and then this happens.
Every punch that has ever landed on Paul Williams is “lucky” according to Team Williams.
Paul Williams says if Ishida “wants his title…” Paul. You don’t hold any titles.
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no point in being arrogant when you’ve gotten waxed two fights straight. why is his team so dumb?
by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I am sure some ABC has some belt on the line… it is 12 rounds right?
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
There are no belts on the line.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah haven’t seen it. Heard it was nasty.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder how much buzz Bute-Stevenson will get
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Is anyone desperately avoiding Adonis stevens nevermind
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Gus
That tie and shirt do NOT go together
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I wished Cloud was coming first
That’s the one I care about
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Yeah I think he is first.
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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
It is.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
GODDAMNIT WHERE IS THE VIDYA OF CHISORA BRAWLING
ITS BEEN HOURS
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:06 PM EST reply actions
Oh hey, Cory, I had a question
Is HeadKickLegend even a kickboxing blog anymore? You guys didn’t have coverage of Hari’s farewell, but us guys at Mania did. What happened? I needs my Petrosyan fix.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 18, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
None of us are very big into kickboxing the way we are MMA
We just don’t know KB and MT the way we do MMA. We’re always looking for more writers for the fisticuffal (yes I made that up) side, so if you know anyone who’s a good writer and likes this stuff, please, drop me a line. My name at gmail.com
That said, I’ll be attending the MT event on the 16th at the Garden, so I’ll be diving headlong into it
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, good
It’s just that used to be HKL’s domain, really. About 75-80 percent kickboxing and a bit of MMA.
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Yea most of the staff left to for liverkick like... a year ago?
I got on board when Roth made the jump from HKL to BE. It just happens that the only group of writers at the moment who took the initiative are all MMA dudes.
I’m constantly trying to work more kickboxing news into it, since that is the general goal, but I just don’t follow it enough, nor do I really know the places to look. Like I say, know anyone who wants to get their name out? Ship it
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
my twitter is full of people laughing about each other for watching klitschko
but they won’t watch “better” boxing the rest of the night
shiatsu black belt
by Shnoobles McShnoobington, Esq. on Feb 18, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions
FINALLY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQs8nMsZNg
postfight brawl!
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:09 PM EST reply actions
he glassed me
shiatsu black belt
by Shnoobles McShnoobington, Esq. on Feb 18, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Bingo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQs8nMsZNg
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
yes
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
One of the most underrated fighters in the world
But a slow starter, and not a style that’s flashy for judges
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more specific
He’s a fantastic southpaw counterpuncher. I feel like Cloud might give him problems with aggressiveness, but Campillo was able to pick apart Garay, Shumenov and, in my opinion, Murat (twice).
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Reggie Strickland!
Call him a lot of things, but novice isn’t one of them.
In the words of my generation:
O_O
by Joe Landry on Feb 18, 2012 10:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wow
NICE punch by Cloud
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Cloud vs Campillo Round 1

Cloud with a right to the body. Campillo getting his circle on to start, obviously ready to look for his counters, which are his bread and butter. Cloud with a jab to the chest. Right hand down the pipe from Cloud, then a left hand follows it. Cloud’s pressure is effective so far — not landing huge shots, but landing clean and clearly bossing the fight.
BIG RIGHT HAND AND DOWN GOES GABRIEL CAMPILLO! Pow!
Campillo back up. Doesn’t appear badly hurt, but Cloud’s trying to finish, and CAMPILLO IS DOWN AGAIN! Good call on the KD by the ref there, and a good job breaking it up.
43 seconds to go. Cloud charging him. Uppercut lands! He’s throwing his hands and Campillo has no idea what to do with him, just trying to shove him away and buy time. Campillo is throwing nothing.
Let me be really clear: Gabriel Campillo can fight. This is SERIOUSLY impressive from Tavoris Cloud
Cloud 10-7
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That right hand made a fantastic thump
Love that sound.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 18, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions
Not hard
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Great first round by Cloud
And even if Campillo does what I know he can do, that’s probably too deep of a hole for him to dig himself out of.
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This is by far the most impressive I've ever seen Cloud
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agreed
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
He's landing hard counters
Picking off Campillo. I can’t remember him ever doing this before. Campillo is regularly landing the jab though.
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Yeah, I thought he would get better after tahat disastrous first time on TV but seems the big accomplishment is that he can now talk without freezing up, but not a good analyst anyways
Yea just seemed random. Like we needed special analysis to tell us why Cloud won the 1st round.
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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
helluva fight so far
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Campillo turns it around with the jab. Loving it.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Cloud vs Campillo Round 2

Left hand from Campillo partially blocked by Cloud. Campillo now coming forward and throwing. There’s a long left from Campillo, and now Cloud is looking a little off. I’ll be damned, but this is developing into some kind of fight.
Cloud trying to move forward and take back the momentum. he started the round well, but then Campillo got into a bit of a rhythm. two jabs from Cloud, but Campillo throws four back and lands a couple.
Campillo 10-9
Cloud 19-17
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Hard to believe the last two rounds were from the same fight.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
or at least the latter part of the second round
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
10-9 Campillo, 19-17 Cloud
Great comeback round by Campillo. Beautiful jab, fast hands, nice combos.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions
Campillo did very well the second half
I still gave it to Cloud barely, but barely. Campillo dominated the second half, Cloud the first.
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Now Campillo is dominating
How crazy. Starting to look a bit Pacquiao-Marquez I
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That comparison came to my mind too.
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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
impressive combination punching from Campillo
putting them together
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Cloud vs Campillo Round 3

First minute has Cloud trying to firmly take this fight back, but Campillo landing. NICE left and a right uppercut from Campillo. Body shots from Campillo! Combination to the head! Hot damn!
Another uppercut lands. rocking Cloud around. Body shots landing, and HARD. Man oh man. Campillo looking very relaxed and confident now, making Cloud miss. Body shots again. Those things are landing constantly, and landing hard. Right to the body, now Cloud clips him with a home run uppercut, but not flush. Cloud starting to look a bit frustrated by Campillo.
Oh i am loving this one.
Campillo 10-9
Cloud 28-27
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Campillo is so fluid with those combinations.
This is a great fight.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
10-9 Campillo, 28-27 Cloud
Man, if Campillo had more power, Cloud would’ve been knocked out already. he’s landing uppercuts at will.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions
This fight has my 2 year olds attention. She usually hates boxing
by Joe Landry on Feb 18, 2012 10:27 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I'm loving this fight
Such a great style clash, like I was hoping. 29-26 Cloud for me, but Campillo is doing very well. I’ve long maintained that Campillo is actually one of the top 3 or 4 LHWs in the world. I think he beats Pascal 10 times out of 10.
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I think Pascal would get KO’ed by Cloud by walking into a punch.
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Pascal can take a big shot. Given his style he needs to!
Nobody will read this and care and why should they?
by Eoin_not_ian on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
38-36 Cloud for me
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
me too
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Campillo round again
38-36 Cloud for me, but I could easily see it being even. Cloud was a bit better that round though.
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Cloud vs Campillo Round 4

Cloud unleashing power shots again, but Campillo blocking them. Still, he’s got to throw back in those situations. Judges gonna be judges.
Hook to the body from Campillo, doesn’t get all the way there. Campillo stalking Cloud now. Cloud a little uneasy in there. Left down the middle from Campillo. Campillo just pop-pop-popping him now. Double left hook from Cloud, blocked, but gives him a moment to press forward. Right hands not getting there. Campillo kind of making him look rudimentary there.
Very interesting round to score so far. 30 seconds left. Cloud coming forward with bigger shots, but not landing a lot. Campillo landing some counters, but not throwing enough. Right hand Cloud. I’m going Cloud on aggression this round.
Cloud 10-9
Cloud 48-46
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er 38-36, obviously
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
10-9 Cloud, 38-36 same
Close round, but Campillo’s activity dropped a bit in that round.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions
Campillo would do well to start throwing again
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Cloud vs Campillo Round 5

Yeesh, Campillo just not throwing enough the last two rounds for my liking. Cloud is truly winning on activity and aggression right now. That’s enough of a factor to separate close rounds for me, but then Campillo lands some great counter shots and this is a winnable round with 30 seconds to go.
Jab from Cloud, but then Campillo pops him with a three-punch combo. Campillo open for a right hand counter, Cloud just misses. Campillo with a big uppercut, and he takes this round with a great final minute.
Crowd really coming alive.
Campillo 10-9
Cloud 47-46
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Starting to get snippy
Cloud round, 48-45 Cloud, but still a fairly close round. Campillo just didn’t do enough early.
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47-46 Cloud
Loving those combos from Campillo. Sweet science.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
10-9 Campillo, 47-46 Cloud
Campillo started throwing again, and Cloud has no answer when he does.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions
How am I scoring every single round the opposite of everyone else lol
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Round 1 10-7 Campillo?
Going to have a tough time justifying that one, Brick. :-)
Haha
OK, not that one
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yeah, quite a few compelling rounds today. Good times.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Cloud vs Campillo Round 6

Cloud cut isn’t good, but he’s not changing his style at all. Ruled not a clash of heads.
Cloud getting busy, but Campillo landing a bit cleaner perhaps. Body shots from both. Cloud gets him to the ropes, Campillo just shrugs it off. One-two shot from Campillo. Cloud ducks a few shots and gets back on the front foot.
Body shot Campillo, but Cloud counters back upstairs with a good shot. Cloud loading up too much, too concerned with big shots and letting Campillo dictate too much of the fight, IMO.
Campillo 10-9
56-56
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10-9 Cloud, 58-56
Campillo again not throwing enough. I begin to understand how he finds himself getting screwed on close decisions.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions
Cloud by just a hair again
58-54 Cloud. Much closer fight than my scores in a way, but I do think Cloud keeps nicking rounds.
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Shut the hell up Gus
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record that to an mp3, put it on a cd, blare it over the pa system for the remainder of the night.
by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I have it a tie. Last round was VERY close.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Cloud can’t beat Dawson, much as I hate to say so. Can’t outbox him.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
No way in hell
But he might be able to outpunch him. Dawson can’t throw when the other guy is.
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Cloud vs Campillo Round 7

Whoa, Campillo coming out very fast this round, and pushes Cloud back on a series of shots. Now Cloud trying to move forward. This is turning into a bit of a war. Not all blood and guts and brawling, but a boxing war.
Campillo turns it around, peppers away in the corner.
Jesus, Gus Johnson is laying his biggest boxing turd to date trying to call this fight.
Campillo really building momentum. Cloud backed into the corner and getting pushed around in there. Good, good stuff. Cloud just looks lost a lot in this fight. Campillo is a bitch of a matchup for him.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 66-65
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10-9 Campillo, 66-65 Cloud
When Campillo throws punches, he beats the crap out of Cloud. When he doesn’t, Cloud does okay.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions
Very clear Campillo round
67-64 Campillo
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Cloud won the last minute but lost the first two. Campillo round.
66-65 Campillo.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Ooh, that’s a bad cut in a bad place.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions
Cloud vs Campillo Round 8

Campillo with another strong series of shots, leaving Cloud frozen. Cloud trying to work his way into that, but that cut has to be bothering him. Campillo the guy moving forward. BIG jab stings Cloud, and then Campillo lets his hands go with Cloud in the corner. Another two-punch combo from Campillo. Cloud just covering up and eating shots. Big left! Campillo DOMINATING right now, and CLOUD COMES BACK with a couple rights!
Goddamn it, this is a good fucking fight right here.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 76-74
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same
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Another round for Campillo imo
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions
10-9 Campillo, 75-75
Campillo just ripping that cut open with jabs and great combinations.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions
Another big Campillo round
76-74 Cloud
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Comparisons to Pacquiao vs. Marquez I come to mind.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Cloud vs Campillo Round 9

Campillo again just way too busy. That’s the real difference with him tonight opposed to normal, and makes me think he can win this fight: He’s fighting aggressively enough to not get overlooked.
Making Cloud miss, landing in combination. Cloud’s head rocked around again. Campillo is way too crafty, too smart for Cloud right now. Cloud is a good fighter, but this is why some of us thought he’d be in hell against even a very old Bernard Hopkins. He’s very basic.
Body combinations and ripping shots to the head from Campillo. another left, then about seven more punches come in from Campillo.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 86-83
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same
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Another big Campillo round
And the thing is Cloud is doing the best he can. It’s not like he’s doing poorly, Campillo has just figured him out. This is kind of how I figured things might go. Anyway, 85-84 Cloud for me. And I know I have more for Cloud than others.
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10-9 Campillo, 85-84
Cloud just can’t get anything going. Campillo just has great footwork, great movement, great angles, never letting Cloud get set and punch, always putting himself in position to throw.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions
This is the most pleasing I’ve seen him. This is great stuff.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
He looked like this the second half of the Garay fight
But I’m surprised he’s kept this up for so long.
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Cloud looking for all the world like Edison Miranda at the moment.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I’m seeing Jeff Lacy.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
I could see that.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Cloud vs Campillo Round 10

Man, Campillo is just bossing the shit out of this the last four rounds. He’s owning this fight. Cloud is getting tagged and he’s just not totally in this anymore. He’s trying, but he’s being beaten thoroughly now.
Oh good. Giampa says two judges with no title fights. In Texas. Fuck.
Body combinations. Head shots. Those body shots are just pounding Cloud, though. Cloud with a good right, but Campillo rolls his head with it and marches on. Campillo with another straight left. Cloud looks defeated.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 96-92
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Probably not upset of the night
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
no, the deep undercard had a bigger one
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
10-9 Campillo
But just barely again. Campillo didn’t do much in the second half of that round, but Cloud barely landed when he threw. Tie bout for me.
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I so hope this doesn't go like Shumenov-Campillo II
Which was one of the worst robberies in recent memory.
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Campillo has taken his career up a notch.
Or two.
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Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
his hands are real low too
Good for Campillo
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions
If they stop the fight, that can only help for Campillo
He’s on a massive roll right now
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Who is this Cloud Left character?
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Cloud round for me
I have it 104-103 Cloud. I’m sure I’m the only one who has Cloud up though.
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Eh, don't be so sure
I imagine there’s a decent chance at least two judges in Texas agree with you
well, I hope the judges don't
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
The messed up part
Is that watching the fight, I REALLY feel like Campillo is winning. My cards just don’t reflect that
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Cloud vs Campillo Round 11

Cloud needs something special on my card. you take away those knockdowns and this is an ass whipping overall.
Cloud trying, but Campillo just starts kicking his ass again. Campillo is tearing him up in there. Cloud getting hammered and backed down again. Campillo is taking him to school.
Referee calling time and they’re gonna look at the cut. Let him finish. You have to let him finish at this point.
And they will let him continue.
Cloud comes away from that trying to land something big, and he’s gotta do it. He’s trying, but Campillo just turns it up and smacks him around again. he’s too good now. Cloud is giving his absolute best and fighting his heart out, he’s just being beaten. BIG RIGHT by Cloud, that stung Campillo. Gus freaks out like he died though. Of course.
Good round. Tavoris Cloud is gonna go out fighting if he’s going out.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 106-101
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10-9 Campillo, 105-102
That one big punch doesn’t make up for the couple of dozen Cloud ate throughout the round.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST reply actions
Cloud is throwing a lot but not landing jack
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Cloud vs Campillo Round 12

Cloud coming forward…Campillo maybe forfeiting the round. Such a bad idea. Has he not learned about scoring?
Cloud throwing, not landing, but throwing. Left from Campillo. Little flurry from Campillo. Cloud trying like hell. Just bulling forward. Left from Campillo. Cloud digging away. 20 seconds to go. Little uppercut from Campillo, then a flurry. Campillo wound up taking this one, too.
Campillo 10-9
Campillo 116-110
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Yikes
This is one of the few fights I can remember where my cards have the guy I thought lost the fight winning it. I have it 114-112 Cloud, but watching it I really feel like Campillo won. Just odd. First time that’s ever happened to me.
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Let's see it Texas
I’m looking forward to seeing Texas screw this up somehow
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions
Well you got to lower your expectations and expect bad things… They gave Williams the UD… lets hopes they do the right thing here.
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115-111 Campillo for me
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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I thought Campillo clearly won this fight. I mean clearly. He schooled him and whipped his ass for the vast majority of this fight.
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Those was my feeling as well
by Joe Landry on Feb 18, 2012 11:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
10-9 Campillo, 115-111
I could see 114-112. A draw would be undeserved. A Cloud win would be a crime.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions
uhoh
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions
Cloud vs Campillo Scores
115-111 Campillo
116-110 Cloud
114-112 Cloud
Tavoris Cloud by split decision
Still IBF titlist
God DAMN it
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Goddamn it!
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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Oh god, sd, wait for it to be tesas
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116-110
LMAO
LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLLOOLOLLOLOLOL
GJ TEXAS
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions
Oh Jesus, Cloud’s mother fainted.
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DEAR LORD
IS THIS REAL LIFE?!
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions
Par for the course
I’d more more shocked or surprised if the house fighter actually lost. Par for the course and another reason I’ve lost the faith . Therer have been literally dozens of decisions like thos over the past couple of years.
Amen
Funeka vs Guzman, Williams vs Lara and Dallas Jr vs Herrerra off the top of my head and all recent
by TheBirdsDen on Feb 18, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Gray is failing right now.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Cloud must be out on his feet.
Talking some nonsense.
by Im_a_fun_haver on Feb 18, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions
I agree. He is likely concussed.
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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
They don’t respond. This is what they do. It’s not like it’s news to them.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Some do. Texas doesn’t. I hate Texas. The minute Lennon said “split decision” I muted it because i knew i wouldn’t be able to stand it.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
Eh, hate the Texas comission
Love Texas itself.
We have the best steak in America and I will knife-fight anyone who disagrees.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 18, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Holy fuck what a robbery
The two judges who scored it for Cloud need to be fucking banned for life.
Part of Pech's Posse since 2007.
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions
haha he's a fucking asshole. thats pretty epic.
this is getting better and better.
LOL
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions
Someone needs to just turn and punch the fuck out of Don King when he grins like that
Preferably a heavyweight and preferably Arreola.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 18, 2012 11:10 PM EST reply actions
Tell me one King fight where his fighter actually lost on points? There arent any . See Douglas v Tyson for Don at his best .
Holy shit. DENNY NELSON is the guy who got it right.
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David Robertson
epic judge fail
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions
I’m going to quote myself from before this fight:
Oh Lord, this card is in Texas? Why do we bother…?
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Well...I appear to have missed something.
I was only going to tune into the main event and then my Twitter feed blew up.
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49 other states
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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I hope this sick feeling leaves my stomach as soon as possible.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
The king of bullshit decisions is in the main event
We aren’t done.
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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Since when did Leonard Garcia start boxing?
I don’t want to start any cross-sport bullshit, but NOBODY in combat gets robberies like Garcia.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 18, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck the judges experience. Do their eyes work?
by Im_a_fun_haver on Feb 18, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions
Yeah
All they see is checks signed by King.
by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 18, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
David Rodriguez vs. Chris Arreola needs to happen.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 18, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions
or Chisora.
As soon as he makes bail.
by Im_a_fun_haver on Feb 18, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
If Paul Williams can win in a non-bullshit way all will be forgiven.
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions
David Robertson has only judged two fights over eight rounds since mid-2008. Why the hell was he judging this fight?
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions
There is an issue with the Sarmiento-trained fighters with the judges. Obviously we have a very limited sampling, but some of the decisions are truly baffling compared from what we see on TV versus what the judges are scoring.
In particular, Sergio Martinez’s draw against Kermit Cintron and the 119-110 card against Paul Williams in the first fight. There’s just something that does not seem to translate from what we see versus what the referees are looking at.
Then again, I’m not one to claim corruption/collusion in these cases. With something this continuous, there has to be some reason that the Sarmiento trained fighters are not translating to the judges ringside. Maybe I’m just still too young and naive, but this is what I’m thinking.
The issue is that the Sarmiento-trained fighters are not the house fighters.
by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What fun next week will be....
when Maidana doesn’t get a decision either.
Maidana is there to fuck Alexander up… I don’t think it goes to the cards… If Alexander is standing even after like 5 knockdowns… yeah… he will get the UD 120-108
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it’s only 10 rounds next week.
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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Aw… that is bullshit…. what type of main event is 10 rounds?
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
im going to say it this way.
116-110 is def a don king decision. The other two I defiantly think they were watching the fights. About 3-4 rounds were close but I ruled Campillo. I still think that a draw would be shocking, that ruling though was just plain wrong.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 18, 2012 11:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I hate Dawson… he is everything that is wrong with boxing. Doesn’t give a shit, gotten million dollar paydays, isn’t bankable. and think he is entitled to so many things.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Three terrible judges from inexperienced judges who should have never been assigned to that fight.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
er, three terrible cards
Williams spent the fight blocking overhand lefts with his face. It was about as disgusting a robbery as you’ll ever see.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
They can’t even deliver a 10-bell salute right in this miserable state. Bob Wills may still be the king, but Bob Wills is dead.
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That was really bad. They guy hit it like 3 times without a break.
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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Good point. We need Gus and Teddy together. Dej Jam boxing.
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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
CAN Paul Williams beat the 36-year-old guy who can’t punch? Will he be as BACK as Andre Dirrell and Jermain Taylor?
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Ishida's still not a horrible fighter
Williams should beat him, but he’s a legitimate top 10 – 15 154 pounder
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After that decision, I need some scotch. Time to break out the Glenfiddich.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions

You need some 151
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
jesus no
most vet partygoers say its a bad idea
by FrontHandMan on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
it’s liquid dog shit
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well if there is another bullshit UD for Williams.... this is in order.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Oh I poured myself a nice tidy Maker’s Mark.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
“Chinks in the armor?”
DATS RACIST
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions
"If its terribly broke, don't fix it." -Paul Williams
by Sean Mills on Feb 18, 2012 11:26 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
“If it’s broke, no it ain’t.”
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
recs for the both of you
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
He promotes Ishida.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
teikenelo
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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He was also beating the shit out of him in sparring last September
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
might want to rethink that
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
WTF?
Whitney Houston remix???
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‘Your judges, all three from the state of texas’
Well shit
by Joe Landry on Feb 18, 2012 11:29 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I expect Williams to look good tonight. This is the type of fight he looks good in.
I don’t think he’s nearly as gone as people think. Just matched against fighters who were better than him/
Williams SHOULD look good against right handed light hitters
I’m guessing he’ll look spectacular here
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What I don't get
Is how paul doesnt fight long. His reach is obscene for the weight class and he still doesnt throw long one twos.
he's an odd duck
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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
His trainer sucks
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It’s a very “YAY! YOU’RE LETTIN ME BE MYSELF!” relationship
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think so too
he hypes himself up alot but i heard nothing great about him
by FrontHandMan on Feb 18, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Williams vs Ishida Round 1

THERE’S ONLY OOOOOOOOOOONE NOBUHIRO ISHIDA
Left from Williams. He’s pushing Ishida back to start the fight. Another long left. Ishida landed a shot early but now he’s being pushed back easily. Little left from Ishida. I do like seeing two guys with this body type fight each other.
Let me be clear: I really like watching Paul fight. He’s just delusional is all. Not about his career, just about, like, what he does wrong (because they don’t think he does anything wrong). Every punch is a lucky punch.
Paul takes the round.
Williams 10-9
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10-9 Williams
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions
Dammit, Gus, you assured me that Ishida would KO Williams in R1.
10-9 Williams.
by The Boxer Rebellion on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Gus is an idiot… I am surprised he has not mentioned HOF about his partner.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
And Williams’ pants are falling down.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:36 PM EST reply actions
Williams is SAGGING right now
STYLISH
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:36 PM EST reply actions
20-18 Williams
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions
Williams vs Ishida Round 2

Williams’ fucking pants are gonna fall off. Texas.
Paul Williams is wearing body armor in the form of a cup.
Ishida doing OK this round, but Williams is winning the fight right now. Finally the referee pulls Paul’s pants up. Left to the body from Williams. OK fight so far.
Williams 10-9
Williams 20-18
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Ishida goes down after his foot his stepped on, which is very difficult to spot, ref correctly calls no knockdown. So good job ref!
Refs have been good so far. Knock on wood.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I see what you did thar.
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Williams is doing okay
But it’s hard for me to take him seriously as a contender anymore after the last two or three fights.
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good news I can finally see whats going on.
Feed has no sound… interesting to watch this thing go down if we never have sound from the commentators.. and as I say that the sound came back. Damn you cablevision.
Williams vs Ishida Round 3

Williams comes out fast and is throwing a lot of leather. Feet tangled up and Ishida falls. Paul has some snap on his punches, and his jab looks sharp. Straight left. BIG straight left from Paul. He’s finding a home for that.
Physically he looks good. His punches are accurate, his workrate is as usual very good. He doesn’t look bad at all, doesn’t look rusty, doesn’t look tentative. Gus says he looks fresh, and I agree.
NICE left hook from Ishida and Paul’s head rocked there. Well then. Straight right from Ishida. Right hook Williams.
Williams 10-9
Williams 30-27
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30-27 Williams, although Ishida hurt him.
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions
Ishida hurt Williams… no offense to Ishida… but he isn’t a power puncher.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
James Kirkland would disagree.
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one who watched that fight? Kirkland was hideous. He did nothing right. He could barely walk without tripping.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I chalk that up to James Kirkland being terrible and out-of-shape that fight
Kirkland at his best would decapitate Paul.
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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Does Paul Williams think about anything?
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
lucky punch BULLcrap
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Good round.
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Williams vs Ishida Round 4

Paul staying busy, but Ishida cracks him again with a hook about 1:15 in. Another left hook. Well, we’ve found our “lucky punch” that’s going to keep landing OVER and OVER and OVER.
Williams hit with a right hand, then another. Ishida roughing him up a bit. Counter right from Ishida. Straight left from Williams, and a good one.
Ishida 10-9
Williams 39-37
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Chuck has a shutout for Paul Williams. He really has taken me inside the mind of a judge.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
10-9 Ishida
39-37 Williams
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:46 PM EST reply actions
You should combine the best of George Peterson and Dan Goossen delusions on Williams. “It was a lucky punch, and if you don’t think so, THEN YOU CAN GET OUT”
oh god that’s a winner. we need to run with it.
by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
he'd laugh
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
His belt simply says "FUCK" on it
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Chuck Giampa’s right there with you
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I gave it to Ishida but still I thought Williams could have stole it.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I agree completely
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Williams doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as a world class fighter…. at least in my eyes. Ishida shouldn’t be in this fight but I actually have him in chance because of how open Williams is.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Even if Williams wins tonight (which he probably will), Ishida’s demonstrated that Williams’ chin is gone. He’s never going to be what people thought he would be
Tall gangly fighters don't normally have good chins
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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Shorts starting to head south again...
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tummy hearns
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Williams vs Ishida Round 5

Williams starting the round well, throwing a lot of punches, and now Ishida comes back with some good punches. Good stuff this round from Williams. I thought he was at risk to unrival, but he’s bounced back nicely here. Good left from Paul.
Williams 10-9
Williams 49-46
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10-9 Williams
49-46 Williams
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions
Williams 10-9, 48-47 same.
I wish we’d stop calling Williams/Lara :controversial" or “disputed”. It wasn’t disputed, it was disgraceful.
Boxing people hate criticism. You have to baby them. You can’t treat it like a sport where things happen and that’s the way it is.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Ishida’s wife with the kimono. Old school.
by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions
shucinda and mai
hit sitcom
shiatsu black belt
by Shnoobles McShnoobington, Esq. on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Ishida has a hot Japanese wife. Well done my good man.
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST reply actions
What can you expect, he’s a hot Japanese dude.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
No homo?
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing wrong with admitting he’s a good looking man
by FrontHandMan on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
AND you
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
This is the one warning you’ll get for using the phrase “no homo”
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
What about in the context of homogenized milk?
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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
no homogenized milk
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
he's no akiyama
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
who is
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Akiyama is the only man I could ever have sex with.
ALL homo.
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Big-time.
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
his athletic upside is so amazing that his career so far really does seem like a bit of waste
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Williams vs Ishida Round 6

I like this fight, really. It’s interesting. Ishida is fighting better than I expected, and good on him, and Paul is Paul. doesn’t look rusty which is good to see. Good round here, I tip it to Williams. I’d have said more, but I was having the “no homo” debate while looking at the TV.
Williams 10-9
Williams 59-55
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Do you think Williams looks a little chinny? Or is Ishida a bigger puncher than his record would seem to show.
yes, I do
The resistance is the biggest question mark about him from now on.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
But I do think Ishida is a slightly better puncher than I gave him credit for, too — he lands accurately, and throws good punches.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
not so much chinny as chin-available
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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
10-9 Williams
59-55 Williams
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions
"KJ Noons fighting for his life now in MMA"
Give me a fawking break, Al.
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last punch caught williams.
i think 5 rounds to one 59-55. although I wouldn’t doubt a judge has it a shutout.
Let's be honest Al
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions
not even hairwise?
shiatsu black belt
by Shnoobles McShnoobington, Esq. on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Williams slaps his punches SO MUCH
It’s befuddling because he’s landing good shots
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whoever that is in the crowd
needs to stfu
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
pipe down, woman. men are doing men things here.
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Ishida is getting owned inside
He needs to probably take a more conservative approach.
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Williams vs Ishida Round 7

Ishida’s really trying, but being out-worked and out-fought. Paul really dominating inside, too.
Williams 10-9
Williams 69-64
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST reply actions
NOES MAH STREAM DIED
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Holy shit, Williams needs to KO a 36 year old journeyman to rise his stock?
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Williams is owning him in the inside completely
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions
Williams does not commit to his punches
Ishida hasn’t been buzzed by any of these power shots.
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He doesn’t have snap in his punches.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
He also throws from wide angles
So he loses the power when he lands.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
He did earlier. It has slipped away. The jab has been lost notably.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I think either boxer lands a clean counter combo it could be over.
Just seems like that type of fight that may end on one big counter punch.
HA! Gus Johnson addresses everyone else by full name except Lara.
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Williams vs Ishida Round 8

Paul coming out hard this round, throwing both hands like a damned hurricane. He’s fighting to impress. Can’t fault that.
Ishida landing a couple, and then a big one gets in. Trying to time him. I think he took this round. Good, active round.
Ishida 10-9
Williams 78-74
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The thing is we aren’t going to be impressed with a fight where he goes the distance, we will be impressed if he corrects his flaws like getting hit far too often for an " elite fighter"
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
10-9 Williams
79-73 Williams
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:02 AM EST reply actions
Ishida.
9.5-9. I gave him that round, seemed like another round that easily a judge could rule for williams. still 78-74.
Campillo is videobombing the fight.
I couldn’t figure out what the rucus was.
I think it's plausible
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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
i do too, honestly. The rounds I’ve given to Ishida were debatable.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
I have Ishida willing but I am from Texas ;)
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
10-9 Williams
89-82 Williams
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To answer Tarver's questions:
Is Williams in the P4P conversation? No.
Is Williams in the best fighter in his weight class conversation? No.
Williams vs Ishida Round 9

Williams bossing the round again. Hurt him a couple times this round. Good stuff. Whenever I think Ishida’s getting in it, Paul takes over.
Williams 10-9
Williams 88-83
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To the lady constantly yelling "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!".......
Die.
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i hope someone jabs her in the throat
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
I am sure she had one too many beers…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
my first impulse
is that she had one zima
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
williams. I have it 7-2 88-83 my dads got it 8-1 89-82.
It’s pretty much a landslide.
I think what we're learning from this fight is that tall Paul is still tall Paul.
That sounds like a cliche. What I mean is that he seems not better nor worse than the guy we knew he was. In retrospect the KO by Martinez isn’t surprising. He wasn’t destroyed by it, and it meant less about Paul than we thought at the time. His weaknesses and strengths have been pretty consistent.
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He's just been a fighter that uses his height but doesnt really have any other outstanding secondary skills.
by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 19, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he uses his height at all.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
wha?
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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Great volume, and impressive infighting skills for such a lanky guy were the other two that spring to mind
Before we here another Hearns comparison… I think a Bowe reference should be mentioned. A big guy who fought in the inside pretty well.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
It is still perhaps the KO of the decade… my goodness I remember calling everyone telling them about the fight. Hell… it made sportscenter.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
it was very dramatic but less telling than it seemed at the time, imho
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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
All it told me, and I thought similar at the time (not trying to sound “smart”) was that that punch Sergio hit him with over and over the first time out can knock him out if he lands a home run version.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
I had a different reaction. My estimation of Paul took a big hit that night.
I think I overreacted. He’s still pretty darn good, though his defensive flaws are (still) glaring..
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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Williams vs Ishida Round 10

If this keeps up, I can say that Paul will be back in my rankings at 154 on Monday (or Tuesday). I have to rank him over Vanes at this point, probably over K9 too. So he might come in at No. 9. Interesting to me and no one else, maybe. But describing this fight isn’t easy, even though it’s a fine fight.
Williams 10-9
Williams 98-92
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99-91 Williams
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:10 AM EST reply actions
Sigh
this fight is such a letdown after what happened earlier today. Very uninteresting to watch
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:11 AM EST reply actions
I find it very interesting, because it’s telling me a lot about where Paul Williams is right now, which was an open question.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Personally
I’d much rather ask why the hell I’m out of alcohol than where a gatekeeper middleweight ranks
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
he’s more than a gatekeeper, but hey, whatever.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
do you really ever see him being #1?
#5?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Why can’t he be #5? Carlos Molina is in the top five.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
so thats his ceiling then?
If he can’t get to the top, thats the definition of gatekeeper, no?
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
where would you put him?
somewhere above a veteran but below a very good contender?
by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly… should Williams go the distance vs a guy with no resume of note outside of a fluke win vs an out of shape fighter? I mean it doesn’t reflect well on Williams esp since he got hurt by Ishida
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
He got rattled a couple times and nothing came of it. He’s dominated this fight. I don’t hold knockouts up as the ultimate greatness in performance.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Does Williams have any punching power?
It seems like Ishida is eating a lot of clean shots but not affected at all.
He loses it over the course of a fight, I think. His punches loosen up.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
He's more of a volume/maybe a TKO kind of guy
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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
10-9 Williams
109-100 WIlliams
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Williams vs Ishida Round 11

Williams 10-9
Williams 108-101
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Gus Johnson is driving me up the god damn wall
He knows nothing about boxing. Nothing.
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sounds like every mma broadcast he's ever done
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
He should stick to march madness…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
he should do the world a favor and have his vocal chords removed
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
He left CBS. Therefore left March Madness.
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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
he really is not having a good night.
My girlfriend has been mocking him relentlessly and hilariously.
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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
It’s been his worst performance to date, and I’m already honking the horn on the anti-Gus bandwagon
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Really Antonio, which big fights is Paul Williams going to be in in the future? He’s not a draw and Alvarez and Cotto are booked.
Canelo is a terrible match up for Williams.
He would destroy him.
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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Williams vs Ishida Round 12

Williams 10-9
Williams 118-110
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions
Williams’ LADY LOVE
Thank God for Gus Johnson.
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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions
Kirkland vs Williams?
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Why the fuck would Kirkland fight Ishida again
Who gives a shit
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Basically a shutout for PW
You can give one or two rounds to Ishida because he looked better than ours, but PW set the temp the entire time and landed essentially all of the significant punches.
With that said (and I am a PW fanboi), I’m not very impressed. Ishida was clearly outmatched but PW couldn’t get him out of there. Meh.
=d
120-108 across the board for Paul Williams
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well a shutout. theres a shock.
can’t argue with it, though. I think that Williams is clueless at to what he thinks he is.
Know what I’m sayin????
Williams sounds like complete shit, almost punch drunk
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by battle axe of doom on Feb 19, 2012 12:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXj-XEHKclY
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
I don’t remember Williams being so incoherent
by Joe Landry on Feb 19, 2012 12:21 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Paul Williams “you know what I’m saying” / “you know” count = 21. Ducks of Kirkland = 1.
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"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
OH! That’s Miesha Tate and Ronda Rousey. I thought this was another crappy Showtime program about Ladies In Situations earlier.
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you should watch
might see an arm ripped off
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
The only reason I could see a Chavez Jr bout with Williams is that Chavez needs a big name.
And that is a large large stretch. Williams just simply isnt that good.
Williams needs Chavez more than Chavez needs him.
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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 19, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting fights
I thought Cloud was going to kill Campillo in the first round, but then clearly lost the fight.
Ok rebound for PW. Wonder where his stock would be if he fought Ishida directly after Martinez rather than Lara.
=d
Come on, Paul. Chavez has his Mandatory with Sergio coming up…Wait, no he doesn’t.
Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!
thread closing in a moment, recap up shortly.
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