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Williams vs Ishida: Live Results and Round-By-Round Coverage

Paul Williams faces Nobuhiro Ishida in tonight's Showtime boxing main event. (Photo by Sumio Yamada/Goossen Tutor Promotions)

Tonight at 10 p.m. EST, Showtime goes live from Corpus Christi, Texas, with a double-header featuring former welterweight and junior middleweight titlist Paul Williams facing Nobuhiro Ishida in a bounce-back fight, and IBF light heavyweight titlist Tavoris Cloud defending against Gabriel Campillo.

Early Undercard Results

Chris Arreola knocked out Eric Molina in the first round, then turned his post-fight interview focus on Don King.

Malik Scott returned from a three-year break to beat Kendrick Releford.

In a big upset, Justin Williams (4-5-1, 2 KO) beat Alfonso Lopez (22-3, 17 KO) by unanimous decision in six rounds. Williams dropped Lopez in the second round.

Star-divide

But first at 8 p.m. EST, Showtime Extreme goes live with Barry Tompkins and Steve Farhood on the microphones, and Chris Arreola in a featured undercard bout against Eric Molina in the heavyweight division.

This is a new idea at Showtime Sports, which was supposed to debut last weekend on the rescheduled Ortiz vs Berto II card, but instead will get its first run tonight. It's a great idea that hopefully boxing fans will embrace -- the UFC has conditioned fight fans to care about the entire card by offering more than just their main card fights for everyone to see, and this is a step in that direction for boxing.

Bad Left Hook will have live, round-by-round results for all the action, starting with the prelim show at 8. So join us tonight for more boxing as we wrap up a long day of coverage.

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SHO Extreme is live. Standard def!

Ugh, they’re hyping Malik Scott.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

is show time streaming it online?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

In the northeast, it’s on channel 364

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't watched a ton of boxing lately

But I’m very excited about the deep undercards being televised. I also think Cloud-Campillo will be a technical barnburner.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Scott is so overrated

Releford might pull off the upset here. Probably not, but he’s no pushover.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Last couple times I’ve seen Releford, he’d lost a couple steps.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

That stinks

He’s never had the power to be a real upset threat, but he usually fights close.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Malik Scott (32-0, 11 KO) vs Kendrick Releford (22-15-2, 10 KO) – REPEAT OR REVENGE?!?!?

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Malik Scott is like a slightly less exciting version of Kevin Johnson

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy God, apparently Chisora and Haye got into a fight at the press conference. Jesus Christ.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

I think I jsut saw two of Scott's tattoos getting into a fight

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

So Scott is in the Havoc pants?

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh, I was gonna do RBR for this, but it’s Malik Scott and there are apparently fistfights between more interesting guys in Germany, so I’m just watching and not doing full RBR until I get something more on that.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

Barry Tompkins already best PBP man at Showtime Sports

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

Scott 10-9

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

Scott's getting the better so far

But Releford is hitting him plenty

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

20-18 Scott

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve never seen Scott before, but he doesn’t look half bad. In shape, solid technique, fast hands, throws in combination.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

How cool is it they are showing these deep undercards for hardcore fans.

Like Brick, I’m pretty excited by this idea. Even if I don’t plan on focusing closely, it’s great to have the option to have these on in the background.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

Decent inside action right now.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

30-27

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

Releford looked better about 25 pounds lighter

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not sure I'd favor Scott against Oquendo much less Klitschko

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

But

I’d easily favor him against several guys in the top 10, like Dimitrenko or Thompson. He beats almost any stiff fighter who isn’t a big puncher.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

he’s noticeably less ugly, skin is scarred but vastly improved, he looks great.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

How much more likable of a guy is Arreola than Chisora.

I really do want Arreola to do something good. I just like him.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

yes

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

From Chris Mannix:

Chisora and Haye are now yelling at each other. Incredible … Chisora yelling “how’s your toe” over and over. Now he’s rushing Haye. they are brawling. … Still brawling. Haye threw the first punch. … Chisora: “I’m going to shoot you. I’m going to physically shoot David Haye.” … Chisora claiming Haye hit him with a bottle. … Wladimir is standing on a chair laughing. Gives me two thumbs up. He’s loving this. … Chisora: “If David doesn’t fight me, I’m going to find him on the street and kill him. I’ll burn him.” … Adam Booth is beeding from a cut on his skull. Chisora telling him, “look in my eyes, I’m going to kill your fighter.” … Haye and Chisora are gone. A giddy Wladimir Klitschko is doing interviews. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him have this much fun. … I’m told that the police are waiting for Chisora outside. Don’t know who called them, but they are here for them.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

I hope there's video

Wlad must’ve been laughing his ass off.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

nice to see they're grown ups

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Chisora’s brave, and reasonably skilled, but he’s clearly nuts.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I used to think this was calculated "bad boy" publicity stuff, but now I'm not so sure...

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

he's off his rocker

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The idea of Wlad standing in a chair like some kid, pointing and laughing at two grown men brawling whilst everyone else is losing their shit trying to stop the guys from offing each other tickles the shit out of me.

by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah me too

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott looks pretty good given the layoff (not much has changed), but my attention is drifting too.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Sure

But I still don’t like him to be more than a fringe contender. He’s a slickster who might be able to give certain fighters some trouble, but he’ll never beat a true top fighter. A boxer will outbox him, but he can probably outbox the occasional slugger.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

No I don’t think he’s going anywhere either, but for a long layoff, he’s sharp.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

YES! Chuck Giampa tonight!

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Scott is a HW who fights like a mediocre bantamweight

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

79-73, 80-72, 80-72 for Malik Scott

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Giampa… well, he isn’t losing his place and cursing on live TV. That’s a start.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone know whats going on with the Stevenson vs. Gonzalez fight ?

by sarangrat on Feb 18, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Is that Oliver McCall training Estrada?

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

yup

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I am such a big fan of being able to watch deep undercard fights on TV in HD

Even without the HD it would be awesome

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

Stupid ass comcast doesn’t have SHO Extreme in HD, but this is as good as a legal stream anyway

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Arreola fighting yet?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

Arreola looks a bit more jiggly than he was in his last few fights. They said he was 5-10 pounds heavier.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

Arreola vs Molina about to start

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

ah ya; I wish I had showtime

darn hbo…………..

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

If Arreola doesn't win this within 3 rounds, it will be a disappointment

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

pretty much.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Arreola looks as sharp as I've seen him.

Short punches. Decent power. Using his forearms to block punches. Still not moving his head, which I’ve always thought was his worst point, but I doubt that changes at this age. He’ll never be a threat to a Klitschko, but I’d like to see him against Povetkin.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

or rematch with highlander

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Teddy would never let that happen… or wait… he isn’t with him anymore.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Arreola vs Molina Round 1

Arreola coming right to him, looking for shots. Arreola puts him on the ropes, slaps away with a jab, trying to get him to open up and drop the guard. Body shot Molina, but Arreola with a long right clipping him back. Right to the body again from Molina. He’s trying to stand his ground, but Arreola is bodying up on him pretty easily.

Arreola with a jab, then a right to the body again from Molina. Arreola shooting for a KO. Arreola isn’t wowing anyone yet, but he looks locked in. Right hand from Molina shakes Arreola! Arreola got hurt there. Molina has him on the ropes and he’s throwing! ARREOLA FIRING BACK! Hot damn!

Arreola pushing back and THERE’S A BIG RIGHT AND DOWN GOES ERIC MOLINA!

He will not get up!

Chris Arreola KO-1

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

man, I wish I could have seen that live on tv

reads like a great fight.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

it was a damn fun round.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope it makes it way onto youtube

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well bless my soul!! Do love Arreola

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

anyone catch the official time?

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

Short and sweet--thank you Showtime Extreme

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

I know Arreola’s waiting for a shot at a Klitschko, but I’d love to see him against an Adamek or a Chisora or one of the good Euro heavyweights.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

“Why do you like getting hit?”

“I guess it’s because my dad hit me a lot!”

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

I so hope they interview him

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

And I also hope they play a swing bout

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

Arreola: “I think Don King’s a fucking asshole and a racist.” Jim Grey pretends to be offended. I think Grey’s a fucking asshole.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

you have to love Arreola’s interviews!

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate Jim Grey. Probably the most pompous hypocrite in sports journalism.

by ColtJouvet on Feb 18, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Arreola’s right, but what’s his motivation in this instance?

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, ha, I see it below.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He probably wants an eliminator against a faded King fighter

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Well good thing that this is live and not edited for TV

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting end to the interview.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

Wait, what was that all about?

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Did King do something recently? I missed it.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

There’s been a lot of issues between King and the Arreola camp.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

what a piece of shit…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

.. wtf
Don King: because we’re all wetbacks, baby;

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 18, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You would think he would know better by now.

I have no problem with Arreola calling him out for this. Screw smug Jim Grey.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He is a world class douchebag…. I am sure when he dies… he will be waiting to interview people who come thru the gates of hell.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck him

The struggle to free myself of restraints, becomes my very shackles

by battle axe of doom on Feb 18, 2012 9:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hello swing fight.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully Lopez throws more punches today than he did back on FNF. No interest in seeing him fight again unless he ups his workrate

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

shit… no tuckers today!

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, it’s weird how Tucker’s just gone. Disappeared earlier today, then reappeare, now gone again.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm. Better be better than his last fight

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

He says he needs to be more aggressive. I say Duh.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

Justin Williams has fought a blistering schedule for a 3-5-1 guy

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

All I want is for guys to let their hands go…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

See Jim? If they’re not like Arreola, then they’re like Tavoris Cloud.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

I loved that interview with Cloud.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

Is Tavoris fighting already?

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

No, just short interview. Cloud looks really ready to go though.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Tavoris will be on in about an hour.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, okay… i guess i got confused, thanks

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Woof woof woof

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

Woah, Lopez just got dropped by a 3-5-1 guy.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

True, but misleading

Combined record of Williams’ opponents is 69-8-3. And two of those losses were an MD and SD. Not saying he’s a world beater, but better than his record.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

True

I looked him up on boxrec, and I was shocked by how many guys with decent-looking records he fought. Was he an amateur star or something?

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

And that wasn’t a flash knockdown. Lopez got crushed with that. He’s lucky it happened near the end of the round.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

thank god that showtime is showing stuff like this…. great replay as well./

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Boy.

Kelly Pavlik’s last fight just keeps looking worse.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

1st knockdown… omg

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Williams, 30-26

This is karmic justice for a 20-2 fighter going against a 3-5-1 guy.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

damn right.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You got to give props to the Arreloa for the quick 1st round KO, Williams for letting it hang out and Showtime for airing undercards.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

unexpectedly entertaining, I'm rooting for Williams

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Lopez, 39-36 Williams

Williams waiting to counter, but in the meantime eating jabs to the mush by the dozen.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

He can't avoid a punch

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He has the head movement of a Moai.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

touche

I found this very funny

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

good one

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If Williams was a little better at moving his head....

Unfortunately, I could see the judges having this fight even, and it wouldn’t be illegitimate

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

I kind of hope Williams wins

But if this round finishes like I think it will, I’m still giving Lopez the win on my scorecard.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

It does

However continue to prove how crappy Pavlik got after his layoff

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Williams, 58-55

Close round, coulda been a 10-10. Disappointed Williams didn’t go all out for the win the last couple of rounds.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

I had it Lopez 57-56

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

57-56, 58-55, 58-55, all for Justin Williams

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

Williams wins!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

Wow

good for him

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

Look how happy he is. Love it.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

That’s what you get for being boring as hell and trying to pad your record against guys with losing records, Lopez!

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly… Justice was served.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That makes me so happy. I mean, from his vantage point he was so close to winning so many close fights only to have it go against him, and he knows everyone dismisses him as a 3-5-1 guy, and then this happens.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

not only that… we got to see it. He can have this forever in his resume that he won on Showtime.

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by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

the comments are making me wish i actually watched the fight. nothing like a nice underdog victory.

by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

Every punch that has ever landed on Paul Williams is “lucky” according to Team Williams.

Paul Williams says if Ishida “wants his title…” Paul. You don’t hold any titles.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

no point in being arrogant when you’ve gotten waxed two fights straight. why is his team so dumb?

by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I am sure some ABC has some belt on the line… it is 12 rounds right?

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by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

There are no belts on the line.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It was announced at the weigh-in that the WBC super-welterweight silver International title is at stake?

by Tokyos on Feb 18, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Did anyone see that Adonis Stevenson crush gonzalez? i heard it was a homerun of a knockout punch.

by sarangrat on Feb 18, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah haven’t seen it. Heard it was nasty.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how much buzz Bute-Stevenson will get

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Is anyone desperately avoiding Adonis stevens nevermind

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

Surprised they didn’t have Gus Johnson “call” the Martinez ko of Williams in that opening voiceover.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Gus

That tie and shirt do NOT go together

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

I wished Cloud was coming first

That’s the one I care about

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I think he is first.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

It is.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

GODDAMNIT WHERE IS THE VIDYA OF CHISORA BRAWLING

ITS BEEN HOURS
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE

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Oh hey, Cory, I had a question

Is HeadKickLegend even a kickboxing blog anymore? You guys didn’t have coverage of Hari’s farewell, but us guys at Mania did. What happened? I needs my Petrosyan fix.

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None of us are very big into kickboxing the way we are MMA

We just don’t know KB and MT the way we do MMA. We’re always looking for more writers for the fisticuffal (yes I made that up) side, so if you know anyone who’s a good writer and likes this stuff, please, drop me a line. My name at gmail.com

That said, I’ll be attending the MT event on the 16th at the Garden, so I’ll be diving headlong into it

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Ah, good

It’s just that used to be HKL’s domain, really. About 75-80 percent kickboxing and a bit of MMA.

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Yea most of the staff left to for liverkick like... a year ago?

I got on board when Roth made the jump from HKL to BE. It just happens that the only group of writers at the moment who took the initiative are all MMA dudes.

I’m constantly trying to work more kickboxing news into it, since that is the general goal, but I just don’t follow it enough, nor do I really know the places to look. Like I say, know anyone who wants to get their name out? Ship it

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

FINALLY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQs8nMsZNg
postfight brawl!

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

Bingo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWQs8nMsZNg

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Feb 18, 2012 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

Is Campillo any good? I’ve never seen him fight

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

yes

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the most underrated fighters in the world

But a slow starter, and not a style that’s flashy for judges

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

more specific

He’s a fantastic southpaw counterpuncher. I feel like Cloud might give him problems with aggressiveness, but Campillo was able to pick apart Garay, Shumenov and, in my opinion, Murat (twice).

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Lord, this card is in Texas? Why do we bother…?

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Reggie Strickland!

Call him a lot of things, but novice isn’t one of them.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

WOW

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

In the words of my generation:
O_O

by Joe Landry on Feb 18, 2012 10:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Wow

NICE punch by Cloud

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 1

Cloud with a right to the body. Campillo getting his circle on to start, obviously ready to look for his counters, which are his bread and butter. Cloud with a jab to the chest. Right hand down the pipe from Cloud, then a left hand follows it. Cloud’s pressure is effective so far — not landing huge shots, but landing clean and clearly bossing the fight.

BIG RIGHT HAND AND DOWN GOES GABRIEL CAMPILLO! Pow!

Campillo back up. Doesn’t appear badly hurt, but Cloud’s trying to finish, and CAMPILLO IS DOWN AGAIN! Good call on the KD by the ref there, and a good job breaking it up.

43 seconds to go. Cloud charging him. Uppercut lands! He’s throwing his hands and Campillo has no idea what to do with him, just trying to shove him away and buy time. Campillo is throwing nothing.

Let me be really clear: Gabriel Campillo can fight. This is SERIOUSLY impressive from Tavoris Cloud

Cloud 10-7

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

Can Campillo throw a real punch?

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

Not hard

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Great first round by Cloud

And even if Campillo does what I know he can do, that’s probably too deep of a hole for him to dig himself out of.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

This is by far the most impressive I've ever seen Cloud

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He's landing hard counters

Picking off Campillo. I can’t remember him ever doing this before. Campillo is regularly landing the jab though.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Did we really need Chuck Giampa to tell us what happened in the 1st?

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I thought he would get better after tahat disastrous first time on TV but seems the big accomplishment is that he can now talk without freezing up, but not a good analyst anyways

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea just seemed random. Like we needed special analysis to tell us why Cloud won the 1st round.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

helluva fight so far

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

Campillo turns it around with the jab. Loving it.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 2

Left hand from Campillo partially blocked by Cloud. Campillo now coming forward and throwing. There’s a long left from Campillo, and now Cloud is looking a little off. I’ll be damned, but this is developing into some kind of fight.

Cloud trying to move forward and take back the momentum. he started the round well, but then Campillo got into a bit of a rhythm. two jabs from Cloud, but Campillo throws four back and lands a couple.

Campillo 10-9
Cloud 19-17

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 19-17 Cloud. Like the fight so far.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Hard to believe the last two rounds were from the same fight.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

or at least the latter part of the second round

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 19-17 Cloud

Great comeback round by Campillo. Beautiful jab, fast hands, nice combos.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Campillo did very well the second half

I still gave it to Cloud barely, but barely. Campillo dominated the second half, Cloud the first.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Campillo is such a beautiful counterpuncher. And he’s showing how to be exciting while in a counterpunching style.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

Now Campillo is dominating

How crazy. Starting to look a bit Pacquiao-Marquez I

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

That comparison came to my mind too.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

impressive combination punching from Campillo

putting them together

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 3

First minute has Cloud trying to firmly take this fight back, but Campillo landing. NICE left and a right uppercut from Campillo. Body shots from Campillo! Combination to the head! Hot damn!

Another uppercut lands. rocking Cloud around. Body shots landing, and HARD. Man oh man. Campillo looking very relaxed and confident now, making Cloud miss. Body shots again. Those things are landing constantly, and landing hard. Right to the body, now Cloud clips him with a home run uppercut, but not flush. Cloud starting to look a bit frustrated by Campillo.

Oh i am loving this one.

Campillo 10-9
Cloud 28-27

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 28-27 Cloud

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Damn what a great fight.

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by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Campillo is so fluid with those combinations.

This is a great fight.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 28-27 Cloud

Man, if Campillo had more power, Cloud would’ve been knocked out already. he’s landing uppercuts at will.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

I hope this lasts for 12 rounds… FOTY type of aura I am getting.

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by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

This fight has my 2 year olds attention. She usually hates boxing

by Joe Landry on Feb 18, 2012 10:27 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Campillo has his timing down pretty good. He may have him figured out.

by Duan on Feb 18, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, thank God the ref didn’t stop the fight.

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

I'm loving this fight

Such a great style clash, like I was hoping. 29-26 Cloud for me, but Campillo is doing very well. I’ve long maintained that Campillo is actually one of the top 3 or 4 LHWs in the world. I think he beats Pascal 10 times out of 10.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

They can both beat Pascal.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Pascal would get KO’ed by Cloud by walking into a punch.

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by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Pascal can take a big shot. Given his style he needs to!

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

me too.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Well Pascal fights very stupidly… so I believe that…

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by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Cloud, 38-36 same.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

38-36 Cloud for me

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Thought Cloud edged 4th with activity.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

me too

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Campillo round again

38-36 Cloud for me, but I could easily see it being even. Cloud was a bit better that round though.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 4

Cloud unleashing power shots again, but Campillo blocking them. Still, he’s got to throw back in those situations. Judges gonna be judges.

Hook to the body from Campillo, doesn’t get all the way there. Campillo stalking Cloud now. Cloud a little uneasy in there. Left down the middle from Campillo. Campillo just pop-pop-popping him now. Double left hook from Cloud, blocked, but gives him a moment to press forward. Right hands not getting there. Campillo kind of making him look rudimentary there.

Very interesting round to score so far. 30 seconds left. Cloud coming forward with bigger shots, but not landing a lot. Campillo landing some counters, but not throwing enough. Right hand Cloud. I’m going Cloud on aggression this round.

Cloud 10-9
Cloud 48-46

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

er 38-36, obviously

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Cloud, 38-36 same

Close round, but Campillo’s activity dropped a bit in that round.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Campillo would do well to start throwing again

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

It’s amazing that Campillo can put combos together so fluidly and effectively and still take time for that very irritating and characteristic pawing at his waistband thing he does.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 47-46 Cloud

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 5

Yeesh, Campillo just not throwing enough the last two rounds for my liking. Cloud is truly winning on activity and aggression right now. That’s enough of a factor to separate close rounds for me, but then Campillo lands some great counter shots and this is a winnable round with 30 seconds to go.

Jab from Cloud, but then Campillo pops him with a three-punch combo. Campillo open for a right hand counter, Cloud just misses. Campillo with a big uppercut, and he takes this round with a great final minute.

Crowd really coming alive.

Campillo 10-9
Cloud 47-46

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Campillo 10-9

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Starting to get snippy

Cloud round, 48-45 Cloud, but still a fairly close round. Campillo just didn’t do enough early.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

47-46 Cloud

Loving those combos from Campillo. Sweet science.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 47-46 Cloud

Campillo started throwing again, and Cloud has no answer when he does.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

How am I scoring every single round the opposite of everyone else lol

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Round 1 10-7 Campillo?

Going to have a tough time justifying that one, Brick. :-)

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Haha

OK, not that one

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I have this bad feeling that even if Campillo continues to outbox Cloud, he will get shafted because Cloud is coming forward and this is Texas

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

What a good day for boxing

This is competitive!

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, quite a few compelling rounds today. Good times.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Cloud, 57-55 same. Campillo can’t quite get over the hump on my card. Though that cut may mean he doesn’t have to.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 6

Cloud cut isn’t good, but he’s not changing his style at all. Ruled not a clash of heads.

Cloud getting busy, but Campillo landing a bit cleaner perhaps. Body shots from both. Cloud gets him to the ropes, Campillo just shrugs it off. One-two shot from Campillo. Cloud ducks a few shots and gets back on the front foot.

Body shot Campillo, but Cloud counters back upstairs with a good shot. Cloud loading up too much, too concerned with big shots and letting Campillo dictate too much of the fight, IMO.

Campillo 10-9
56-56

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Thought Cloud edged out the 6th.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Cloud, 58-56

Campillo again not throwing enough. I begin to understand how he finds himself getting screwed on close decisions.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud by just a hair again

58-54 Cloud. Much closer fight than my scores in a way, but I do think Cloud keeps nicking rounds.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud gets started, even gets him on the ropes, and then hesitates. Weird hesitation.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Shut the hell up Gus

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

Was just thinking that.

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record that to an mp3, put it on a cd, blare it over the pa system for the remainder of the night.

by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I have it a tie. Last round was VERY close.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud can’t beat Dawson, much as I hate to say so. Can’t outbox him.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

No way in hell

But he might be able to outpunch him. Dawson can’t throw when the other guy is.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

apparently Cloud can’t either

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 7

Whoa, Campillo coming out very fast this round, and pushes Cloud back on a series of shots. Now Cloud trying to move forward. This is turning into a bit of a war. Not all blood and guts and brawling, but a boxing war.

Campillo turns it around, peppers away in the corner.

Jesus, Gus Johnson is laying his biggest boxing turd to date trying to call this fight.

Campillo really building momentum. Cloud backed into the corner and getting pushed around in there. Good, good stuff. Cloud just looks lost a lot in this fight. Campillo is a bitch of a matchup for him.

Campillo 10-9
Campillo 66-65

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

This fight is being won by whoever is on their front foot. Neither guy is all that effective going backwards (no surprise for Cloud, a little of a surprise for Campillo).

10-9 Campillo, 65-66 Cloud

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 66-65 Cloud

When Campillo throws punches, he beats the crap out of Cloud. When he doesn’t, Cloud does okay.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Very clear Campillo round

67-64 Campillo

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud won the last minute but lost the first two. Campillo round.

66-65 Campillo.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

I’d aim for the cut and get a stoppage. Sweet combos.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Ooh, that’s a bad cut in a bad place.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

I have it even at this point with Campillo very much in the ascendancy

by Duan on Feb 18, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 8

Campillo with another strong series of shots, leaving Cloud frozen. Cloud trying to work his way into that, but that cut has to be bothering him. Campillo the guy moving forward. BIG jab stings Cloud, and then Campillo lets his hands go with Cloud in the corner. Another two-punch combo from Campillo. Cloud just covering up and eating shots. Big left! Campillo DOMINATING right now, and CLOUD COMES BACK with a couple rights!

Goddamn it, this is a good fucking fight right here.

Campillo 10-9
Campillo 76-74

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

same

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 75-75 even

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Another round for Campillo imo

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 75-75

Campillo just ripping that cut open with jabs and great combinations.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

I got it 75-75.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Another big Campillo round

76-74 Cloud

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Campillo is not a “big” puncher, but he strikes me as a “sharp” puncher. Punches that sting, punches that rip open cuts. And punches that you often don’t see coming.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Comparisons to Pacquiao vs. Marquez I come to mind.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

Damn right.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 9

Campillo again just way too busy. That’s the real difference with him tonight opposed to normal, and makes me think he can win this fight: He’s fighting aggressively enough to not get overlooked.

Making Cloud miss, landing in combination. Cloud’s head rocked around again. Campillo is way too crafty, too smart for Cloud right now. Cloud is a good fighter, but this is why some of us thought he’d be in hell against even a very old Bernard Hopkins. He’s very basic.

Body combinations and ripping shots to the head from Campillo. another left, then about seven more punches come in from Campillo.

Campillo 10-9
Campillo 86-83

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

same

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Campillo 10-9, 85-84 same. Campillo’s first lead on my card.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

Another big Campillo round

And the thing is Cloud is doing the best he can. It’s not like he’s doing poorly, Campillo has just figured him out. This is kind of how I figured things might go. Anyway, 85-84 Cloud for me. And I know I have more for Cloud than others.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 85-84

Cloud just can’t get anything going. Campillo just has great footwork, great movement, great angles, never letting Cloud get set and punch, always putting himself in position to throw.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

This is an awesome fight, I’ve never seen Campillo before, but like his style a lot!

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

This is the most pleasing I’ve seen him. This is great stuff.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He looked like this the second half of the Garay fight

But I’m surprised he’s kept this up for so long.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Campillo does do this weird thing where he turns his whole body away when moving away from danger. Occasionally, it causes him to be hit beyond the back, and he complains about it, but it’s really his fault.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

Wonderful, two judges without title fight experience. Texas gonna Texas.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud looking for all the world like Edison Miranda at the moment.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

I’m seeing Jeff Lacy.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I could see that.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 10

Man, Campillo is just bossing the shit out of this the last four rounds. He’s owning this fight. Cloud is getting tagged and he’s just not totally in this anymore. He’s trying, but he’s being beaten thoroughly now.

Oh good. Giampa says two judges with no title fights. In Texas. Fuck.

Body combinations. Head shots. Those body shots are just pounding Cloud, though. Cloud with a good right, but Campillo rolls his head with it and marches on. Campillo with another straight left. Cloud looks defeated.

Campillo 10-9
Campillo 96-92

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 95-93 same

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

Probably not upset of the night

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

no, the deep undercard had a bigger one

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t count your chickens just yet… this is Texas

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Campillo

But just barely again. Campillo didn’t do much in the second half of that round, but Cloud barely landed when he threw. Tie bout for me.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

I so hope this doesn't go like Shumenov-Campillo II

Which was one of the worst robberies in recent memory.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Campillo has taken his career up a notch.

Or two.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

If Campillo avoids a surprise hard right, he might win this.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

This is getting ugly….

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

his hands are real low too

Good for Campillo

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

If they stop the fight, that can only help for Campillo

He’s on a massive roll right now

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Credit to Cloud — he’s basically telling the doc that he’ll knock him out if he stops the fight.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud still wants to fight. Love to see that. Even before the doctor takes a look, Cloud saying, “DO NOT STOP THIS.”

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

OH MAN!

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Who is this Cloud Left character?

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud round for me

I have it 104-103 Cloud. I’m sure I’m the only one who has Cloud up though.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

Eh, don't be so sure

I imagine there’s a decent chance at least two judges in Texas agree with you

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

well, I hope the judges don't

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

The messed up part

Is that watching the fight, I REALLY feel like Campillo is winning. My cards just don’t reflect that

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

“But what does left have in his tank?” You tell me, Yoda.

10-9 Campillo (though Cloud really came out with a desperate fury after the doc took a look), 105-102 same

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 11

Cloud needs something special on my card. you take away those knockdowns and this is an ass whipping overall.

Cloud trying, but Campillo just starts kicking his ass again. Campillo is tearing him up in there. Cloud getting hammered and backed down again. Campillo is taking him to school.

Referee calling time and they’re gonna look at the cut. Let him finish. You have to let him finish at this point.

And they will let him continue.

Cloud comes away from that trying to land something big, and he’s gotta do it. He’s trying, but Campillo just turns it up and smacks him around again. he’s too good now. Cloud is giving his absolute best and fighting his heart out, he’s just being beaten. BIG RIGHT by Cloud, that stung Campillo. Gus freaks out like he died though. Of course.

Good round. Tavoris Cloud is gonna go out fighting if he’s going out.

Campillo 10-9
Campillo 106-101

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

That ref stoppage completely stalled Campillo’s momentum.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

Campillo threw that round away

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 105-102

That one big punch doesn’t make up for the couple of dozen Cloud ate throughout the round.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

How I saw it too. I fear the official judges say otherwise.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Cloud is throwing a lot but not landing jack

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah that’s basically the story of the fight. Cloud wants to fight and to hit Campillo, and he’s had a good work rate throughout the fight. But Campillo is just too skilled and Cloud can’t figure out how to hit him.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If I was Campillo, I’d keep punching so that the judges won’t gift the last round to the champ.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Round 12

Cloud coming forward…Campillo maybe forfeiting the round. Such a bad idea. Has he not learned about scoring?

Cloud throwing, not landing, but throwing. Left from Campillo. Little flurry from Campillo. Cloud trying like hell. Just bulling forward. Left from Campillo. Cloud digging away. 20 seconds to go. Little uppercut from Campillo, then a flurry. Campillo wound up taking this one, too.

Campillo 10-9
Campillo 116-110

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Cloud, 114-112 Campillo.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

Yikes

This is one of the few fights I can remember where my cards have the guy I thought lost the fight winning it. I have it 114-112 Cloud, but watching it I really feel like Campillo won. Just odd. First time that’s ever happened to me.

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

It happens sometimes….

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Side note… pretty good crowd in CC.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn’t celebrate just yet. We in Texas after all.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

Let's see it Texas

I’m looking forward to seeing Texas screw this up somehow

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

Well you got to lower your expectations and expect bad things… They gave Williams the UD… lets hopes they do the right thing here.

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by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

115-111 Campillo for me

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta double on Camp. They better not take it from him

by Eugene Banks on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

I have it 114-112 for Campillo. 8-4 in rounds

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

I thought Campillo clearly won this fight. I mean clearly. He schooled him and whipped his ass for the vast majority of this fight.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

Those was my feeling as well

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That*

by Joe Landry on Feb 18, 2012 11:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Campillo outclassed him at times.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I gave the last two rounds to Cloud… I thought Campillo threw them away… I wouldn’t be surprised by a draw

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Campillo, 115-111

I could see 114-112. A draw would be undeserved. A Cloud win would be a crime.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

I have Campillo by 5 clear points. Completely schooled him after the first.
Now watch him not get the judges nod.

by Duan on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

SD…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

115-111 Campillo

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

uhoh

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

116-110 Cloud… WTF

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud by 6?!

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

114-112… Still champ…. Cloud…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Two Texas judges vote for Cloud. Huge shocker.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud vs Campillo Scores

115-111 Campillo
116-110 Cloud
114-112 Cloud

Tavoris Cloud by split decision
Still IBF titlist

God DAMN it

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

BOOOOO

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Goddamn it!

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

WTF

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Oh god, sd, wait for it to be tesas

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

TEXAS

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

116-110

LMAO
LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLLOOLOLLOLOLOL
GJ TEXAS

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

That is fucked up.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Knew it. Totally predictable.

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck, fuck, fuck….

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

So wrong.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Oh Jesus, Cloud’s mother fainted.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Typical Texas, typical Don King.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

116 110 judge needs a suspension.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

That may actually be the worst card I have ever seen.
Definitely the worst of recent memory/

by Duan on Feb 18, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

DEAR LORD

IS THIS REAL LIFE?!

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

Even Cloud’s mom didn’t believe it. :/

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

Wow.

Nobody will read this and care and why should they?

by Eoin_not_ian on Feb 18, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

Par for the course

I’d more more shocked or surprised if the house fighter actually lost. Par for the course and another reason I’ve lost the faith . Therer have been literally dozens of decisions like thos over the past couple of years.

by JC40 on Feb 18, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

Amen

Funeka vs Guzman, Williams vs Lara and Dallas Jr vs Herrerra off the top of my head and all recent

by TheBirdsDen on Feb 18, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t help but think that somehow someway don king stole this for cloud.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 18, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud backing up more than he ever has in his entire life apparently constitutes being the aggressor in his world.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

Way to not take a punch and win a fight Campillo

by Duan on Feb 18, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

Gray is failing right now.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

If Cloud wasn’t American he’d going at him harder.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the times we want Jim Gray to be a scumbag and he doesn’t do it :(

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. He is likely concussed.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Where's Jrok

We need to call the Texas Sports Commission

by Curtis2012 on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

And do what? Shame them? They don’t have any shame.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

They don’t respond. This is what they do. It’s not like it’s news to them.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Some do. Texas doesn’t. I hate Texas. The minute Lennon said “split decision” I muted it because i knew i wouldn’t be able to stand it.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, hate the Texas comission

Love Texas itself.

We have the best steak in America and I will knife-fight anyone who disagrees.

by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 18, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to talk to DICKY COLE…lol

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

“If he doesn’t die, it doesn’t count.” Gaaaaah.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

Holy fuck what a robbery

The two judges who scored it for Cloud need to be fucking banned for life.

Part of Pech's Posse since 2007.

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LOL

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

Tell me one King fight where his fighter actually lost on points? There arent any . See Douglas v Tyson for Don at his best .

by JC40 on Feb 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Holy shit. DENNY NELSON is the guy who got it right.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

David Robertson

epic judge fail

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

David Robertson — could be wrong, but I feel I’ve seen his name attached to several AWFUL cards.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

“This is what’s wrong with boxing”
yeah a 116-110 yeesh.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

I’m going to quote myself from before this fight:


Oh Lord, this card is in Texas? Why do we bother…?

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by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Well...I appear to have missed something.

I was only going to tune into the main event and then my Twitter feed blew up.

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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

Where’s all the experienced judges at?

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

I hope this sick feeling leaves my stomach as soon as possible.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

Since when did Leonard Garcia start boxing?

I don’t want to start any cross-sport bullshit, but NOBODY in combat gets robberies like Garcia.

by Patrick L. Stumberg on Feb 18, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Lawrence Cole going to ref the main event?

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

David Robertson has only judged two fights over eight rounds since mid-2008. Why the hell was he judging this fight?

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

Shieeiiit, Paul Williams could get his ass beat all night and still score a split decision win.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

There is an issue with the Sarmiento-trained fighters with the judges. Obviously we have a very limited sampling, but some of the decisions are truly baffling compared from what we see on TV versus what the judges are scoring.

In particular, Sergio Martinez’s draw against Kermit Cintron and the 119-110 card against Paul Williams in the first fight. There’s just something that does not seem to translate from what we see versus what the referees are looking at.

Then again, I’m not one to claim corruption/collusion in these cases. With something this continuous, there has to be some reason that the Sarmiento trained fighters are not translating to the judges ringside. Maybe I’m just still too young and naive, but this is what I’m thinking.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

The issue is that the Sarmiento-trained fighters are not the house fighters.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Victor ortiz looks like a genuine hobo in that picture

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

I want Ishida to win via SD…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

Cloud is pretty much all Don King has left. I have no doubt them 2 judges were paid for

by Eugene Banks on Feb 18, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

What fun next week will be....

when Maidana doesn’t get a decision either.

by Duan on Feb 18, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Maidana is there to fuck Alexander up… I don’t think it goes to the cards… If Alexander is standing even after like 5 knockdowns… yeah… he will get the UD 120-108

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Only 10 round fight. So 100-90.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s only 10 rounds next week.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Aw… that is bullshit…. what type of main event is 10 rounds?

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

As Matthysse will tell you, Devon Alexander main events.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Forgot… he is an Al Haymon fighter.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think he is?

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i mean, it’s not lkike Maidana is a boxing wizard… if he wins it’s because he will fuck up Alexander

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

im going to say it this way.

116-110 is def a don king decision. The other two I defiantly think they were watching the fights. About 3-4 rounds were close but I ruled Campillo. I still think that a draw would be shocking, that ruling though was just plain wrong.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 18, 2012 11:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I don’t like Chad Dawson. But now I want him to KO Cloud.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

I hate Dawson… he is everything that is wrong with boxing. Doesn’t give a shit, gotten million dollar paydays, isn’t bankable. and think he is entitled to so many things.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

all true, but I’d still like to see him beat Cloud, and he can.

There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939

by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Should we even bother watching the main event?

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

I’m so disgusted I’m just following the thread.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

In short: cards sucked. People got mad.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

For good reason, though.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt.

But the key thing is this: the NJ Commission WANTED to do something about it. They wanted to punish (and possibly embarrass) their judges. Commissions tend to not want to embarrass their judges.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Three terrible judges from inexperienced judges who should have never been assigned to that fight.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

er, three terrible cards

Williams spent the fight blocking overhand lefts with his face. It was about as disgusting a robbery as you’ll ever see.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a rough bell.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

They can’t even deliver a 10-bell salute right in this miserable state. Bob Wills may still be the king, but Bob Wills is dead.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

That was really bad. They guy hit it like 3 times without a break.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Arg….

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

How many Jeremy Lin references will Gus make during the fight?

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

not more than Teddy Atlas and that other guy from FNF

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point. We need Gus and Teddy together. Dej Jam boxing.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

CAN Paul Williams beat the 36-year-old guy who can’t punch? Will he be as BACK as Andre Dirrell and Jermain Taylor?

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

Already getting mad about the inevitable “I don’t need to fight Lara again, I’m onto bigger and better things” interview after this fight.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I want Ishida to win so badly…. but common… he doesn’t have a chance.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ishida's still not a horrible fighter

Williams should beat him, but he’s a legitimate top 10 – 15 154 pounder

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

After that decision, I need some scotch. Time to break out the Glenfiddich.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

You need some 151

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

jesus no

most vet partygoers say its a bad idea

by FrontHandMan on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s liquid dog shit

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if there is another bullshit UD for Williams.... this is in order.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I poured myself a nice tidy Maker’s Mark.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Good call. I think I need Aberlour A’bunadh to stomach this.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

If William’s chin is fucked up, Ishida can Kirkland his ass hahahaha

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

“Chinks in the armor?”

DATS RACIST

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

that was the whole controversy

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

“If it’s broke, no it ain’t.”

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

recs for the both of you

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Canelo is promoting this?

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

He promotes Ishida.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

teikenelo

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He was also beating the shit out of him in sparring last September

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

now that’s just funny.

by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, that’s funny… “my promoter is a 20 year old kid!”

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

might want to rethink that

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I just laugh at the idea of lucky punches. Does Paul’s training regiment involve a lot of four leaf clovers?

by theninthlayer on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

WTF?

Whitney Houston remix???

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

Words to strike fear in anyone’s heart: “All three from the state of Texas….”

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

all judges from Texas.. I’m seriously considering not watching this

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

‘Your judges, all three from the state of texas’

Well shit

by Joe Landry on Feb 18, 2012 11:29 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

I expect Williams to look good tonight. This is the type of fight he looks good in.
I don’t think he’s nearly as gone as people think. Just matched against fighters who were better than him/

by Duan on Feb 18, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

Williams SHOULD look good against right handed light hitters

I’m guessing he’ll look spectacular here

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

What I don't get

Is how paul doesnt fight long. His reach is obscene for the weight class and he still doesnt throw long one twos.

by FrontHandMan on Feb 18, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

He was always a surprisingly good inside fighter.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

but its against his nature

by FrontHandMan on Feb 18, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

he's an odd duck

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

His trainer sucks

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by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a very “YAY! YOU’RE LETTIN ME BE MYSELF!” relationship

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think so too

he hypes himself up alot but i heard nothing great about him

by FrontHandMan on Feb 18, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

10 seconds in, Ishida lands his first overhand right.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

Good job ref. Let’s step right behind the fighter.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

Ishida is so skinny and looks small compared to Williams.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 1

THERE’S ONLY OOOOOOOOOOONE NOBUHIRO ISHIDA

Left from Williams. He’s pushing Ishida back to start the fight. Another long left. Ishida landed a shot early but now he’s being pushed back easily. Little left from Ishida. I do like seeing two guys with this body type fight each other.

Let me be clear: I really like watching Paul fight. He’s just delusional is all. Not about his career, just about, like, what he does wrong (because they don’t think he does anything wrong). Every punch is a lucky punch.

Paul takes the round.

Williams 10-9

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Williams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

So is Ishida on A-Side Meth? Suddenly he’s a KO machine?

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

Dammit, Gus, you assured me that Ishida would KO Williams in R1.

10-9 Williams.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Feb 18, 2012 11:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Gus is an idiot… I am surprised he has not mentioned HOF about his partner.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

if you mean Al, he did…at the beginning of the brodcast

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to say I appreciate how blunt Bernstein and Tarver are being with respect to the decision from the first fight. The HBO guys would be busy trying to justify it or simply sweeping it under the rug.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

“You’d think the referee would address the cup.” You’d think so, but … we’re in Texas

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

Williams is SAGGING right now

STYLISH

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

20-18 Williams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 2

Williams’ fucking pants are gonna fall off. Texas.

Paul Williams is wearing body armor in the form of a cup.

Ishida doing OK this round, but Williams is winning the fight right now. Finally the referee pulls Paul’s pants up. Left to the body from Williams. OK fight so far.

Williams 10-9
Williams 20-18

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Williams 10-9, 20-18. But a nice pace. Ishida is completely in this.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

Ishida backs straight up on the ropes. Very open for straight left.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

Ishida goes down after his foot his stepped on, which is very difficult to spot, ref correctly calls no knockdown. So good job ref!

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

Refs have been good so far. Knock on wood.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I see what you did thar.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams is doing okay

But it’s hard for me to take him seriously as a contender anymore after the last two or three fights.

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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

good news I can finally see whats going on.

Feed has no sound… interesting to watch this thing go down if we never have sound from the commentators.. and as I say that the sound came back. Damn you cablevision.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 18, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 3

Williams comes out fast and is throwing a lot of leather. Feet tangled up and Ishida falls. Paul has some snap on his punches, and his jab looks sharp. Straight left. BIG straight left from Paul. He’s finding a home for that.

Physically he looks good. His punches are accurate, his workrate is as usual very good. He doesn’t look bad at all, doesn’t look rusty, doesn’t look tentative. Gus says he looks fresh, and I agree.

NICE left hook from Ishida and Paul’s head rocked there. Well then. Straight right from Ishida. Right hook Williams.

Williams 10-9
Williams 30-27

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Williams was hurt at the end of 3rd.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

Eh, I’ll throw that one Ishida’s way. 10-9 Ishida, 29-28 Williams

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

30-27 Williams, although Ishida hurt him.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

Ishida hurt Williams… no offense to Ishida… but he isn’t a power puncher.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

James Kirkland would disagree.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who watched that fight? Kirkland was hideous. He did nothing right. He could barely walk without tripping.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Kirkland just really isn’t very good

by Duan on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

But this is the guy who stopped the Mandingo Warrior! Just standing up to such power should vault Williams up the rankings!

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ishida doing good work

by Sammlung on Feb 18, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Does Paul Williams think about anything?

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Just about how lucky anyone is to land punches on him.

by Sam5001 on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

lucky punch BULLcrap

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You know I really don’t lol…he just throws punches and that’s his game plan, unchanging.

by Sammlung on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep up those lefts, kid.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

Good round.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 4

Paul staying busy, but Ishida cracks him again with a hook about 1:15 in. Another left hook. Well, we’ve found our “lucky punch” that’s going to keep landing OVER and OVER and OVER.

Williams hit with a right hand, then another. Ishida roughing him up a bit. Counter right from Ishida. Straight left from Williams, and a good one.

Ishida 10-9
Williams 39-37

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

Chuck has a shutout for Paul Williams. He really has taken me inside the mind of a judge.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Ishida
39-37 Williams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

“it was a lucky punch” needs to become a meme of some sort.

by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

You should combine the best of George Peterson and Dan Goossen delusions on Williams. “It was a lucky punch, and if you don’t think so, THEN YOU CAN GET OUT”

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

oh god that’s a winner. we need to run with it.

by The Twillness on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams starting tp moss badly sometimes. Ishida 10-9

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 18, 2012 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

Ishida’s actually taking Williams power much better than the other way around

by Sammlung on Feb 18, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

What belt does Arreola have? Nathan’s Hot Dog….ah, that was mean…

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

he'd laugh

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams doesn’t seem to be anywhere near as a world class fighter…. at least in my eyes. Ishida shouldn’t be in this fight but I actually have him in chance because of how open Williams is.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

Shut out for Paul Williams? It’s like Lara all over again.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

not really.

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by BoxAnne on Feb 18, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Lara was dominating

by Sammlung on Feb 18, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Lara beat his ass. Williams is winning tonight

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if Williams wins tonight (which he probably will), Ishida’s demonstrated that Williams’ chin is gone. He’s never going to be what people thought he would be

by Apprentice on Feb 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

Shorts starting to head south again...

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

Oh good, more Williams-Hearns comparisons.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

THERE IS NO COMPARISON EXCEPT FOR SIZE

by Sammlung on Feb 18, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

tummy hearns

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 5

Williams starting the round well, throwing a lot of punches, and now Ishida comes back with some good punches. Good stuff this round from Williams. I thought he was at risk to unrival, but he’s bounced back nicely here. Good left from Paul.

Williams 10-9
Williams 49-46

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Williams
49-46 Williams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

Williams 10-9, 48-47 same.

I wish we’d stop calling Williams/Lara :controversial" or “disputed”. It wasn’t disputed, it was disgraceful.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

Boxing people hate criticism. You have to baby them. You can’t treat it like a sport where things happen and that’s the way it is.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Ishida’s wife with the kimono. Old school.

by Verklemptomaniac on Feb 18, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

Ishida has a hot Japanese wife. Well done my good man.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

What can you expect, he’s a hot Japanese dude.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

No homo?

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with admitting he’s a good looking man

by FrontHandMan on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

AND you

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the one warning you’ll get for using the phrase “no homo”

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

no homogenized milk

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

If you’re going to talk about how hot the girls are, then you can’t complain if folks talk about how hot the guys are.

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

he's no akiyama

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

who is

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Akiyama is the only man I could ever have sex with.

ALL homo.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and he is like 6’3…to boot…

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by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Man imagine how good Williams would be if he had a good trainer!

by theninthlayer on Feb 18, 2012 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

his athletic upside is so amazing that his career so far really does seem like a bit of waste

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by Matt Miller on Feb 18, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9, 58-56 Williams

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 6

I like this fight, really. It’s interesting. Ishida is fighting better than I expected, and good on him, and Paul is Paul. doesn’t look rusty which is good to see. Good round here, I tip it to Williams. I’d have said more, but I was having the “no homo” debate while looking at the TV.

Williams 10-9
Williams 59-55

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

Do you think Williams looks a little chinny? Or is Ishida a bigger puncher than his record would seem to show.

by Sammlung on Feb 18, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

It looks like he’s been permanently dented

by Sammlung on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, I do

The resistance is the biggest question mark about him from now on.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

But I do think Ishida is a slightly better puncher than I gave him credit for, too — he lands accurately, and throws good punches.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He times people correctly… more than he has power.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree with the others that he’s dented. I also think that explains any decline in workrate, rather than the idea that he and Peterson somehow worked on being more judicious with his punches.

by bachwards on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

not so much chinny as chin-available

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10-9 Williams
59-55 Williams

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"KJ Noons fighting for his life now in MMA"

Give me a fawking break, Al.

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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

last punch caught williams.

i think 5 rounds to one 59-55. although I wouldn’t doubt a judge has it a shutout.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 18, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

Let's be honest Al

KJ Noons was never an upper-echelon fighter.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

not even hairwise?

shiatsu black belt

by Shnoobles McShnoobington, Esq. on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams slaps his punches SO MUCH

It’s befuddling because he’s landing good shots

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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

whoever that is in the crowd

needs to stfu
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
pipe down, woman. men are doing men things here.

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

Ishida is getting owned inside

He needs to probably take a more conservative approach.

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Williams vs Ishida Round 7

Ishida’s really trying, but being out-worked and out-fought. Paul really dominating inside, too.

Williams 10-9
Williams 69-64

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by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Williams
69-64 Williams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

NOES MAH STREAM DIED

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

10-9, 68-65 Williams

by schraubd on Feb 18, 2012 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty much…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 18, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams does not commit to his punches

Ishida hasn’t been buzzed by any of these power shots.

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by SSreporters on Feb 18, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

He doesn’t have snap in his punches.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

He also throws from wide angles

So he loses the power when he lands.

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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

He did earlier. It has slipped away. The jab has been lost notably.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I think either boxer lands a clean counter combo it could be over.

Just seems like that type of fight that may end on one big counter punch.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 19, 2012 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Ishida is game… I thought he would be KO’ed by now.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 8

Paul coming out hard this round, throwing both hands like a damned hurricane. He’s fighting to impress. Can’t fault that.

Ishida landing a couple, and then a big one gets in. Trying to time him. I think he took this round. Good, active round.

Ishida 10-9
Williams 78-74

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

The thing is we aren’t going to be impressed with a fight where he goes the distance, we will be impressed if he corrects his flaws like getting hit far too often for an " elite fighter"

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Williams
79-73 Williams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Ishida.

9.5-9. I gave him that round, seemed like another round that easily a judge could rule for williams. still 78-74.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 19, 2012 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

This fight is actually making me think that Lara might be a lighter puncher than I had originally thought. Ishida’s punches obviously benefit from the lefts that Lara landed on Williams all night, but I don’t recall Williams reacting to them as much as he has to some of Ishida’s.

by bachwards on Feb 19, 2012 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

10-9 Iahida, 77-75 Williams

by schraubd on Feb 19, 2012 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

Campillo is videobombing the fight.

I couldn’t figure out what the rucus was.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 19, 2012 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

I think it's plausible

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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

i do too, honestly. The rounds I’ve given to Ishida were debatable.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s nuts. It’s a shutout or close to it.

by Sammlung on Feb 19, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I have Ishida willing but I am from Texas ;)

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

Williams is from South Carolina. Ishida is from Japan. I assure you — Williams could leave here via stretcher and no Texan judge would have him down.

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10-9 Williams
89-82 Williams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

10-9, 87-84 Williams

by schraubd on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

“Brilliant performance” Gus? Really?

by Sammlung on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

Gus is an idiot… don’t listen to him for insight.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

To answer Tarver's questions:

Is Williams in the P4P conversation? No.
Is Williams in the best fighter in his weight class conversation? No.

by bachwards on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 9

Williams bossing the round again. Hurt him a couple times this round. Good stuff. Whenever I think Ishida’s getting in it, Paul takes over.

Williams 10-9
Williams 88-83

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

Ishida should just turn southpaw to freak Williams out.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

To the lady constantly yelling "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!".......

Die.

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by lildrummerboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

i hope someone jabs her in the throat

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I am sure she had one too many beers…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

my first impulse

is that she had one zima

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Williams team: “No, we don’t want to be THAT good”

by Sammlung on Feb 19, 2012 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

tall boxer-puncher? ewwww

by Sammlung on Feb 19, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I think what we're learning from this fight is that tall Paul is still tall Paul.

That sounds like a cliche. What I mean is that he seems not better nor worse than the guy we knew he was. In retrospect the KO by Martinez isn’t surprising. He wasn’t destroyed by it, and it meant less about Paul than we thought at the time. His weaknesses and strengths have been pretty consistent.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think he uses his height at all.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Williams fights small and throws um… chingos of punches… he doesn’t fight tall.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

wha?

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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Great volume, and impressive infighting skills for such a lanky guy were the other two that spring to mind

by schraubd on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Before we here another Hearns comparison… I think a Bowe reference should be mentioned. A big guy who fought in the inside pretty well.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It is still perhaps the KO of the decade… my goodness I remember calling everyone telling them about the fight. Hell… it made sportscenter.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

it was very dramatic but less telling than it seemed at the time, imho

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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

All it told me, and I thought similar at the time (not trying to sound “smart”) was that that punch Sergio hit him with over and over the first time out can knock him out if he lands a home run version.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I had a different reaction. My estimation of Paul took a big hit that night.

I think I overreacted. He’s still pretty darn good, though his defensive flaws are (still) glaring..

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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing more than a lucky punch. No big deal.

by bachwards on Feb 19, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah you are right… lucky punch…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

10-9, 97-93 Williams

by schraubd on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 10

If this keeps up, I can say that Paul will be back in my rankings at 154 on Monday (or Tuesday). I have to rank him over Vanes at this point, probably over K9 too. So he might come in at No. 9. Interesting to me and no one else, maybe. But describing this fight isn’t easy, even though it’s a fine fight.

Williams 10-9
Williams 98-92

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10-9 Williams
99-91 Williams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Sigh

this fight is such a letdown after what happened earlier today. Very uninteresting to watch

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:11 AM EST reply actions  

I find it very interesting, because it’s telling me a lot about where Paul Williams is right now, which was an open question.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally

I’d much rather ask why the hell I’m out of alcohol than where a gatekeeper middleweight ranks

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

he’s more than a gatekeeper, but hey, whatever.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

do you really ever see him being #1?

#5?

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Why can’t he be #5? Carlos Molina is in the top five.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

so thats his ceiling then?

If he can’t get to the top, thats the definition of gatekeeper, no?

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

where would you put him?

somewhere above a veteran but below a very good contender?

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly… should Williams go the distance vs a guy with no resume of note outside of a fluke win vs an out of shape fighter? I mean it doesn’t reflect well on Williams esp since he got hurt by Ishida

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

He got rattled a couple times and nothing came of it. He’s dominated this fight. I don’t hold knockouts up as the ultimate greatness in performance.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Fact is that we know the same thing before this fight… Williams is done as a world class fighter.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Does Williams have any punching power?

It seems like Ishida is eating a lot of clean shots but not affected at all.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 19, 2012 12:11 AM EST reply actions  

He loses it over the course of a fight, I think. His punches loosen up.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

He's more of a volume/maybe a TKO kind of guy

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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

"The young Japanese fighter"

36 is the new 20!

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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

Arg…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Williams
109-100 WIlliams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

10-9. 107-102 Williams

by schraubd on Feb 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 11

Williams 10-9
Williams 108-101

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

Ahhhh, man. I had forgotten about Canelo-Mosley.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 19, 2012 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

It is a shit sandwich that us boxing fans are going to have to eat.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Gus Johnson is driving me up the god damn wall

He knows nothing about boxing. Nothing.

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by SSreporters on Feb 19, 2012 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

sounds like every mma broadcast he's ever done

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

He should stick to march madness…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

he should do the world a favor and have his vocal chords removed

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, his yelling/over-exuberance doesn’t lend itself to sports where the action is continuous. It suits sports where there’s a TV timeout after every single play in the last minute of a game. Thus why he succeeds with college basketball.

by Sam5001 on Feb 19, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

he really is not having a good night.

My girlfriend has been mocking him relentlessly and hilariously.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s been his worst performance to date, and I’m already honking the horn on the anti-Gus bandwagon

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Really Antonio, which big fights is Paul Williams going to be in in the future? He’s not a draw and Alvarez and Cotto are booked.

by bachwards on Feb 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

Williams-Angulo? lol

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 19, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Slow vs Fast….

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Trout?

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Canelo is a terrible match up for Williams.

He would destroy him.

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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Williams vs Ishida Round 12

Williams 10-9
Williams 118-110

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

10-9, 117-111 Williams

by schraubd on Feb 19, 2012 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

10-9 Williams
119-109 Williams

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

Williams’ LADY LOVE

Thank God for Gus Johnson.

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by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Feb 19, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

Kirkland vs Williams?

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by Matt Miller on Feb 19, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

Why the fuck would Kirkland fight Ishida again

Who gives a shit

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

My thoughts exactly. His 36 year old RIVAL?

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

It is a fluke… no reason to see that fight.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Basically a shutout for PW

You can give one or two rounds to Ishida because he looked better than ours, but PW set the temp the entire time and landed essentially all of the significant punches.

With that said (and I am a PW fanboi), I’m not very impressed. Ishida was clearly outmatched but PW couldn’t get him out of there. Meh.

=d

by AP77 on Feb 19, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

Wow, so many typos….

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by AP77 on Feb 19, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

My feelings to a T

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

120-108 across the board for Paul Williams

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

How long until a “YOU’RE BACK BABY!!!”?

by bachwards on Feb 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

well a shutout. theres a shock.

can’t argue with it, though. I think that Williams is clueless at to what he thinks he is.

by sp0rtsfan86 on Feb 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

I know what he is saying…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

Know what I’m sayin????

Williams sounds like complete shit, almost punch drunk

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by battle axe of doom on Feb 19, 2012 12:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXj-XEHKclY

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t remember Williams being so incoherent

by Joe Landry on Feb 19, 2012 12:21 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Kinda scary.

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by CheCorner on Feb 19, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

he’s not particularly well-spoken ever…but yeah not a great speech.

by Sammlung on Feb 19, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s really always sort of been like that.

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by AP77 on Feb 19, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Chavez and Martinez are the biggest names at 154 apparently.

by bachwards on Feb 19, 2012 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

Paul Williams “you know what I’m saying” / “you know” count = 21. Ducks of Kirkland = 1.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXj-XEHKclY

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Kirkland isn’t big enough

by Sammlung on Feb 19, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Williams looks for big names…and gets NONE. Keep it up Paul!

by Sammlung on Feb 19, 2012 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

OH! That’s Miesha Tate and Ronda Rousey. I thought this was another crappy Showtime program about Ladies In Situations earlier.

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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:23 AM EST reply actions  

you should watch

might see an arm ripped off

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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 19, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Not enough nuts and guts in that promo.

by bachwards on Feb 19, 2012 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

Williams needs Chavez more than Chavez needs him.

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by Kory Kitchen on Feb 19, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

but is Chavez big enough for WIlliams? Hmmmm???

by Sammlung on Feb 19, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Williams would be by far the best opponent he’s ever faced. And not ever remotely close at that.

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by AP77 on Feb 19, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate Chavez… but he would walk over Williams esp when he weighs 185 come fight night.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting fights

I thought Cloud was going to kill Campillo in the first round, but then clearly lost the fight.

Ok rebound for PW. Wonder where his stock would be if he fought Ishida directly after Martinez rather than Lara.

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by AP77 on Feb 19, 2012 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

International hall of famer…lol

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

Come on, Paul. Chavez has his Mandatory with Sergio coming up…Wait, no he doesn’t.

Heeeeeey-ohhhhhhhh!

by CheCorner on Feb 19, 2012 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

yes he does… well that is what the WBC says and they never lie.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Feb 19, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

The sad thing is that Chavez-Williams would be a decent step up from the rumored Chavez-Margarito.

by bachwards on Feb 19, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

thread closing in a moment, recap up shortly.

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