David Haye and Dereck Chisora Brawl at Press Conference (Video)
by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST
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PrintAnd now, here's the video of David Haye and Dereck Chisora brawling at the Klitschko vs Chisora post-fight press conference:
The whole thing is just insane. You have to wonder if this makes for big interest in a fight between the two, though. Obviously it would be a hot ticket in the UK, but is it even bigger than that?
[ Klitschko vs Chisora Results and Recap ]
Furthermore, would Haye want this fight? He's said he's got no interest in returning for anything other than a fight with Vitali Klitschko, which is reportedly off the table, or Wladimir Klitschko, who has no known interest in a rematch with David Haye after their summer 2011 flop.
Is a personal beef like this one enough to lure David Haye back into the ring? He won't get Klitschko money to fight Chisora, but he'd make good money for sure. How much would Frank Warren pay, or be able to pay, to secure this fight on BoxNation?
By the way, I don't mean to make light of this whole thing, which is a disgrace at best, but you know this is where it's headed.
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Chisora's a loose cannon
I’d pay to watch that fight. For sure.
That video is awesome
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by Cory Braiterman on Feb 18, 2012 10:54 PM EST reply actions
Oh come on
this was not staged.
Bring on Chisora – Haye!
Not exactly proud to admit but i actually quite enjoyed that between Haye and Chisora
"Leon Spinks is so ugly that when a tear rolls down his face, it only gets halfway, then it rolls back up" - Muhammad Ali.
haye interupts the conference
throws the first punch, glasses chisora, splits his manager’s head open and runs
bravo david
you do your name proud
jeez
I must admit I like “glassed me” over cracked me with a bottle.
On a serious note. This is ridiculous. If Haye ends up missing we have our first suspect.
by tacklerford on Feb 18, 2012 11:24 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I am making it a point to use “how’s your toe?” and “he glassed me” at work this week.
by Sentimental on Feb 18, 2012 11:32 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Hey, I know Haye lost a lot of respect for the Klitscho fight
but I give him major props for standing up to that loud mout, brash punk Chisora. From my eyes, what I thought I seen was Haye get off the first punch and sock Chisora in the mouth before Chisora’s boys tried to jump in.
Chisora is a punk. Haye punches you, both of you guys are boxers, and you start talking about you’re gonna shoot him?!?!?! That stands for punk in my book. And all respect is now gone. Thats the problem with people now. They cant take an ass-whooping without reaching for a gun. Thanks Chisora, for constantly being a living stereotype by your constant dumb acions. Haye got the last laugh. Chisora is a big coward who thinks that he can intimidate people by talking and acting tough, too bad he’s not Tyson in the ring.
"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option
If you're not first, you're last
He didn't 'punch him in the mouth'.
Haye used a glass or a bottle.
I personally don’t think that’s a great thing for a boxer to do.
Grabbing the tripod after was just the icing.
Well why is Chisora even coming onto the floor to confront Haye in an aggressive manner like that anyway? That’s this guy’s problem, he thinks he’s soo tough and such a badass that should be respected and feared. But he’s not. He’s coming off his third loss in a row. And you can point to this or that of how or why he loss, but the fact is he’s on a losing streak. And yet he’s trying to act like Tyson of the 80’s
"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option
If you're not first, you're last
Chisora is a prick, no question, but I don’t see how you can just let Haye off the hook. He mouthed off, again, then glassed Chisora, before picking up a camera tripod and trying to brain whoever was standing in front of him (which hilariously turned out to be that Booth).
Then he ran away.
Chisor and Haye deserve each other. Both are classless, loudmouth douchebags. The difference is that Chisora tries to back it up in the ring, which doesn’t make him a better person, but makes hima more intersting fighter.
by I'm going slightly mad on Feb 18, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think both are douchebags
But Chisora is the classless one. Yes Haye talks a lot and get under people’s skin, but slapping before the fight, and then spitting in the face of another man, that’s all Chisora. I cant think of anything Haye has done that was that pathetic. I’ll take Haye over Chisora anyday.
"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option
If you're not first, you're last
but slapping before the fight, and then spitting in the face of another man, that’s all Chisora. I cant think of anything Haye has done that was that pathetic.
Hitting someone in the face with a bottle maybe?
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by Jack.Barrington on Feb 19, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Why is Haye even getting involved at the presser?
It’s Chisora’s night. Haye should have stayed out of it . He acted like a little kid.
I think Chisora’s actually mentally ill, but he’s not a coward. Better out the ring for him if he were. And it’s a pretty chaotic scene, can’t be sure, but sure seems like Haye started it, who’s majorly bigger than Chisora, so really as far as I can tell I can’t lay the blame on Chisora—as far as gun and “burn” threats go, words spoken in the heat of the moment don’t matter much to me, it’s not like he pulled a real gun or something.
There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else--James Thurber, 1939
I agree. He is mentally ill but tough as shit and brave as all hell. And dare I say, courageous.
it’s not like he pulled a real gun or something.
Right. He didn’t say “I’m going to shoot you” and then pull a gun and show it to him.
"While he may strike hard blows, he is not at liberty to strike foul ones." J. Sutherland.
disagree. Haye has no standing to “stand up to that loud mouth”. The fight wasn’t Haye’s, neither was the presser. I thought Haye came off like the kid at recess who didn’t get picked for either football team. “I wanna play too! I wanna play!” Except last time he got picked, he stubbed his toe and cried on the sideline.
We’ve got 15 HW’s willing to talk shit to the Klits and then never try to win when the bell rings. We’ve got one who roll the dice and give it his all. I’m with Chisora….at least until he’s in prison for really losing his grip.
"While he may strike hard blows, he is not at liberty to strike foul ones." J. Sutherland.
David used the wrong method to pick a fight
Chisora is nuts! Haye will lose this one once they DO meet in the ring.
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by honorablecbm on Feb 18, 2012 11:39 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Chisora took two ass-whoopings in one day
"Winning is Everything"
Failure is not an Option
If you're not first, you're last
sometimes you need a bad guy
We finally have one in the HW division whose the same guy in the ring. Haye wants to be that guy but he’s not. Chisora is.
by tacklerford on Feb 19, 2012 12:08 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
@2:03. Was that Vitali yelling, “David, run”? lol.
Will next week be this crazy? I kind of hope so.
by Im_a_fun_haver on Feb 19, 2012 12:34 AM EST reply actions
I love Vitali.
He might not be the MOST interesting guy out there, but he’s certainly got a sense of humour…..
And if there is one bloke i would want stood next to me in
a back alley fight…..
by Sweet science on Feb 19, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Ok ok ok... let's all take a breath...
But seriously, if Haye does fight Chisora, I see Haye winning. I think i’m the only one here, but I want Haye back. Not for the “hype and trash talk” that everyone thinks the division needs, but Haye the boxer. Haye is/was a classy fighter. Power, speed. He has it all. He fucked up with Wlad, but if he kept going, he still would have been too much for anyone else out there. As a boxer, I think Haye is a very good fighter, and it’s a shame he isn’t fighting. I want to see him back!
Haye is/was a classy fighter. Power, speed. He has it all.
It’s a shame it doesn’t always show up.
Maybe he needs someone like Chisora to turn him vicious. If Haye came to throw leather, I think he’d kick Chisora’s ass. But if he went in with a shred of doubt, Chisora would eat him up.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
thats what makes it such an interesting fight
I too would pick haye. He does have explosive power and he will be able to walk Derek onto shots imo
by Sweet science on Feb 19, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure Haye can hurt Chisora, but i think Chisora could hurt Haye, although Haye is the better talent, imo.
It’s a good matchup, imo.
"Leon Spinks is so ugly that when a tear rolls down his face, it only gets halfway, then it rolls back up" - Muhammad Ali.
by Matt Mosley on Feb 19, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Dereck Chisora is going to be an overnight star. Heck, in the States on ESPN, they showed a few seconds of highlights of the fight…in the ring, that is. And I have no doubts that this will make it across the pond as well. Chisora becoming the Mike Tyson of the UK, ha ha.
by TheDemolitionDan on Feb 19, 2012 3:43 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
It’d be kind of like if Tyson couldn’t beat Trevor Berbick and old Larry Holmes but did spit at them.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 3:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha ha, well not exactly Tyson inside the ropes, just with all these antics, but yeah.
by TheDemolitionDan on Feb 19, 2012 3:56 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
this made me laugh
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Don Charles summed it up when he called Haye a salesman.
He’s literally just that. I don’t see there being a chance of Haye actually fighting Chisora – he’s got no bottle, shows no desire to actually fight competitively in a “sport” and is only interested in fighting for the most money. Chisora’s a loose cannon, but heck, I respect the guy because he’s a serious fighter and he clearly wants to fight the best because that’s what fighters do. Haye will talk himself into another Klitschko fight, run for another 12 rounds and then spend the next 12 months dotted around at different media events. The act is tiresome; Haye is unbearable.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Feb 19, 2012 5:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
+1m, you completely encapsulated all that is haye. talk the big talk with no substance. on boxnation last night he was laughing about wlad fighting jean marc mormeck, aka the best win on haye’s record. he laughed at chisora, who put up a much better performance against vitali than haye did against wlad. and last but not least, how can he slag off the “klitschko opponents” when his heavyweight record consists of: valuev – overrated, fat, slow and talentless. john ruiz – too old, can he even be classed as overrated?, fat, slow, talentless, washed up awful. audley harrison – old, slow, talentless (as both boxer and dancer), no career accomplishments in the professional ranks and only got the fight off one punch against michael sprott who completely outclassed him for 11 rounds
by sparky_mufc on Feb 19, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Cruiserweight Mormeck was a great fighter
But is no way Haye’s best win. Maybe P4P, and peak-for-peak also, but that isn’t what you’re saying. There is no way Mormeck 2007 (or whenever it was) beats Valuev, or Ruiz, or even Barrett, at the times Haye fought them.
He was Haye’s best cruiserweight win (although I could also see an argument for Enzo Maccarinelli over that particular incarnation of Mormeck) but not his best career win, IMO.
Haye vs. Chisora would for me be a fight between two of least likable guys in boxing.
That has a certain appeal. But I doubt the fight would be worth the sad spectacle that would surely lead up to it (and follow it home).
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Somewhere along the way, the “sport” has dropped out of this.
Just when ideas fail, words crop up.
--- Goethe, Faust
Disagree
stuff like this makes people talk about boxing…. a rare thing these days
by Sweet science on Feb 19, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
A boxer going on a murder spree would make people “talk about boxing” too. The problem is they aren’t talking about boxing. They’re talking about a couple of assholes. It’s not like this means someone is going to tune in for Jamie McDonnell-Malik Bouziane now.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Say they do fight......
in 6 months or so… or a year if both can’t go back in a ring for that period as you suggest in your most recent article
think how much buzz that fight would get, especially over here. That would be a massive event
I’d rather these two do what they did than the two biggest names in the sport saying how one is ducking the other and how once is on steroids…… Because of that, we now have guys accusing opponents of doping before/after a fight.
by Sweet science on Feb 19, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
You make a good point.
Hadn’t thought of it like that.
Would we rather have guys acting like assholes and actually having a row, or guys keeping us hanging for years and then just not fighting each other?
At least this way we’ve got more than “Bob Arum’s Inane Generic Quote of the Day #3,471” to look forward to.
That was supposed to read:
At least this way we’ve got more than "Bob Arum’s Inane Generic Quote of the Day #3,471" to talk about.
eh. I recall Ali and Frazier got into a wrestling scrap on Cosell’s show.
Larry Holmes jumped off the trunk of a car trying to attack a guy.
Shit happens. Nobody actually got hurt, it appears.
Fucking Chisora is a tough SOB – 12 rounds of coming forward and he’s still got more.
"While he may strike hard blows, he is not at liberty to strike foul ones." J. Sutherland.
by lcollins1 on Feb 19, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Shit does happen, but I am not going to condone or even ignore a boxer repeatedly threatening to shoot another boxer if he doesn’t get the fight he wants. I hardly think this was comparable to the scrap on the Cosell show.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
Kind of the opposite of this:
In this case, it’d be: “Whoever loses, we win.”
I see that Haye and Chisora are being questioned by police.
Doesn’t hitting someone with a bottle constitute some type of criminal assault?
And just out of curiosity, what were they drinking at that conference?
Just when ideas fail, words crop up.
--- Goethe, Faust
Who hit who? – It’s all a mess.
"While he may strike hard blows, he is not at liberty to strike foul ones." J. Sutherland.
Just seen a new angle from a different video clip (via Gabriel Montoya’s twitter page) which pretty conclusively shows Haye throwing the first punches towards both Chisora and later Charles.
"Occasionally, there is a boxing match that, in its demonstration of skill, courage, intelligence, hope, seems to redeem the sport - almost. Perhaps boxing has always been a sport in crisis, a sport of crisis."
by Oli Goldstein on Feb 19, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
You only have to look at David Haye during the pre-fight commentary to know that he was jealous of Chisora’s opportunity (Pretty much claiming he didn’t have a hope in hell). Then after the fight when Chisora actually came to fight and gave it his all. Must’ve been hard to see another British fighter actually give a Klitschko a run for his money.
I don’t know the gentleman’s name but he called David Haye a “salesman”, perfect.
Appeared to go how the fight would
With Chisora moving forward and Haye backing up. Looks about right.
I can’t stand Haye.
I’m pretty sure Chisora’s mentally ill, but I don’t really blame him for that. He seems quite unhinged and out of control. I like it. It’s about time we got someone actually dangerous in HW boxing.
"While he may strike hard blows, he is not at liberty to strike foul ones." J. Sutherland.
Man, if only he could assault another woman or a cop, preferably this week, then it’d really get people talking about boxing. This Chisora, what a find.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 19, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone ever seen the movie The Gods must be Crazy?
Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These amateurs...
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