What matches do you want to see in the Super Bantamweigts?
by Boss Man on Feb 22, 2012 12:07 PM EST
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PrintNo division in boxing includes a more diverse bunch of high quality fighters than the super bantamweight division. It’s like a stew of sorts—or to be more refined, a bouillabaisse of mixed and spicy ingredients.
Toshiaki Nishioka, the current WBC super bantamweight champion, is one of the very best in the world. At 39-4-3, he has not lost since 2004. The 36-year old-Japanese fighter has won 17 bouts in a row against the very best opposition available. Thai bomber, Veeraphol Sahaprom (66-4-2), may have had his number as he went 2-0-2 against the streaking Nishioka—amazingly all in Japan—but that was then and this is now. Sahaprom, age 44, has not fought in almost two years.
In 2009, Nishioka stopped KO artist Jhonny Gonzales (51-7) in three rounds and he did it in Mexico no less. But Jhonny has not lost since as he has won 11 in a row all by KO and most coming early (seven were in two rounds or less). In 2011, he stopped the great Hozumi Hasegawa in four stanzas. Jhonny is the current WBC featherweight champion.
Meanwhile, former WBO bantamweight title holder Jorge "Travieso" Arce has gone nine straight without a loss, while WBA champion Guillermo "The Jackal" Rigondeaux is undefeated at a deceptive 9-0—deceptive because he has the typical lengthy amateur career of a Cuban defector.
Arguably the best of them all, Nonito "The Filipino Flash" Donaire (28-1) recently beat tough and game Puerto Rican Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. (21-2-1) to capture the vacant WBO super bantamweight crown but "The Flash" did carry the power he had when he was a bantamweight. Throw in former WBA super bantamweight champion Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym (45-2) and add Panamanian Ricardo "Maestrito" Cordoba (38-3-2) to the tasty mix.
Finally, IBF super bantamweight champion South African Takalani Ndlovu (33-6), former champion and Canadian Steve Molitor (34-2), Panamanian Anselmo "Chemito" Moreno (32-1-1), and well traveled and still very dangerous Celestino "Pelenchin" Caballero (36-4) add to a composite for great matches.
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Donaire will slaughter Arce based on respective styles.
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What is wrong with Donaire/
Nishoka (who I’ve never had the pleasure of seeing)?
by Don From Prov on Feb 23, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Ndlovu-Molitor IV!!!
Not really. Seriously though, just fights between the top 3, and probably any fight involving two of those guys would stink to watch. In terms of what could be a fun fight, I’d like to see Poonsawat against Willie Casey, or Kiko Martinez against Victor Terrazas.
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Is Jhonny Gonzales really that dangerous and a KO artist? I have a permanent impression in my mind of Vasquez taking him out in the 10th or 11th round, and of Penalosa downing him and out in the 5th or 6th round with a body shot. Pc! Donaire vs. Nishioka would be my pick!
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That Jhonny-Vazquez fight is one of my all-time favourites. Awesome bout.
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by Oli Goldstein on Feb 23, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yes he is. He was beating the crap out of Penalosa before he got hit with that great body shot.
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He was beating the crap out of Izzy, too, until he got that cut in his mouth. Jhonny’s a sensational fighter.
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by Oli Goldstein on Feb 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed he is
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Yes, Jhonny Gonzalez is really that good. He’s got a a punch resistance issue, but other than that he’s truly top-shelf — if he were 20% sturdier, he’d have been P4P top ten for years. Izzy Vazquez was my main man (longtime members can attest), but Jhonny was whipping his ass in that fight. It came down to Izzy being Izzy, though. Man I miss Israel Vazquez.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 24, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
sadist
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I miss him, but never, ever want to see him fight again. I was hugely against the fourth Marquez fight and it went exactly as I expected, not that it took a genius to figure it out.
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by Scott Christ on Feb 25, 2012 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
no he wasnt. penalosa was chasing around the ring. penalosa has a tight peek a boo guard so the shoe shining may appear vicious. penalosa made ponce de leon fight on his back foot at a time when he was KOing everyone in the first round. oh yeah, and nishioka whooped gonzalez.
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
How
about the highly underrated “Last ManStanding”—
old Mini-Yank from upstate NY? Put him in with the New Hampshire Flash.
I can't resist--check this out:
"I wish people would love everybody else the way they love me. It would be a better world."
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That would about sum
it up
if mini-yank faced the flash
he stopped the great Hozumi Hasegawa in four stanzas.
No disrespect meant, to you or to Jhonny Gonzales, but was Hasegawa really all that “great”?
"Leon Spinks is so ugly that when a tear rolls down his face, it only gets halfway, then it rolls back up" - Muhammad Ali.
Myabe not great but very good
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—Muhammad Ali…
No disrespect to Hasegawa either.
i remember him being very highly regarded before the Montiel fight, and still when Gonzalez fought him.
"Leon Spinks is so ugly that when a tear rolls down his face, it only gets halfway, then it rolls back up" - Muhammad Ali.
Hasegawa moved up from like bantamweight, so not as a featherweight, nope. He lost to Montiel at 118, and moved up two weight divisions.
"According to all the laws of aerodynamics the bumble-bee should not fly, but the bumble-bee does not know this and so flies anyway."
Good point
he had a lot of defences of the ’BC 118lb title.
"Leon Spinks is so ugly that when a tear rolls down his face, it only gets halfway, then it rolls back up" - Muhammad Ali.
Yes, Point taken
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I would like to see Donaire vs Nishioka at 122, and Jhonny Gonzalez vs Mikey Garcia up at 126, or if he can still make 122, i would like to see either Gonzalez vs Victor Terrazas and/or in a rematch with Fernando Montiel.
"Leon Spinks is so ugly that when a tear rolls down his face, it only gets halfway, then it rolls back up" - Muhammad Ali.
Hey, i just realised Jhonny Gonzalez is lined up to fight Elio Rojas on April 14.
That’s a very good matchup, imo. Rojas stays under the radar a bit but is quite highly regarded from what i have heard. I haven’t seen much of him for myself but i have been wanting him to face a top level opponent for a while now.
He was mooted for a fight with Gamboa at one point.
"Leon Spinks is so ugly that when a tear rolls down his face, it only gets halfway, then it rolls back up" - Muhammad Ali.
Yep and it fits with your best fight the best notion
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Rojas is 23-1
with his only loss coming to Gamaliel Diaz (SD).
That’s right, the same Gamaliel Diaz with a win over Robert Guerrero (SD), and a loss too (KO6).
"Leon Spinks is so ugly that when a tear rolls down his face, it only gets halfway, then it rolls back up" - Muhammad Ali.
Gonzalez-Rigondeaux + Donaire-Nishioka
with winners to meet.
Me too
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Brandon Rios
Vs Victor Ortiz.
At a weight of their choosing
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Ooops
Forgot the subject..
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To the death!!
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