Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: The Most Dangerous Division in Sports

Ortiz vs Berto II: Fight Could Move to June 23 at Staples Center

Staples Center in Los Angeles could play host to Ortiz-Berto II on June 23. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

Lance Pugmire of the LA Times reports that Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer is trying to finalize a new date and venue for the postponed Victor Ortiz vs Andre Berto rematch, with June 23 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles the new target. The bout was originally set for February 11 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, but was canceled when Berto suffered a bicep injury.

Schaefer says that the May 19 fight in Las Vegas between Lamont Peterson and Amir Khan prompted him to try moving this rematch to Los Angeles:

Schaefer: "After we moved the Khan-Peterson fight to Vegas, we decided we still wanted a major fight in LA. LA deserves it." #boxing
Feb 23 via UberSocial for BlackBerry Favorite Retweet Reply


One might question whether or not Los Angeles deserves major fights, since the last two Golden Boy-promoted events in the area were utter flops at the gate.

Star-divide

While Hopkins vs Dawson in October was simply a fish out of water on the west coast, the fight in December between Abner Mares and Joseph Agbeko, with a good co-feature, was a glorious disaster, selling just 1,161 tickets (with 918 comps to make the Honda Center in Anaheim look better) for a $70,313 gate. That fight truly deserved better, but Los Angeles wasn't interested in the fight.

I'd be interested to see how Ortiz vs Berto does in LA, though -- it's not going to be a hot ticket in Vegas, and Berto has no fan base anywhere. His last fight was in Mississippi, for God's sake, against a Slovenian guy no one here had heard of (but who sold about half the tickets, it seemed, with a traveling fan faction), and the first Ortiz-Berto fight was in Connecticut. Canelo Alvarez's September fight at Staples with Alfonso Gomez did OK, but Ortiz isn't Alvarez. Does he have the local fans to bring in a crowd?

Showtime will still televise the rematch, as originally planned.

On a side note, is it just me or is the Staples Center a total wannabe boxing venue? They keep putting events there, and there's a damn statue of Oscar De La Hoya outside even though he only fought there one time, and even considering the building is relatively new, he didn't fight much in LA period in his career. It's like people want it to be a boxing venue but don't want to earn the stripes. I don't know. Like I said, I'm not against the idea of putting Ortiz-Berto there, but I also won't be surprised if it flops.

Comment 17 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

I think Ortiz is an LA kinda name though. He’s on TMZ sometimes… Can they have every fight ever at the MGM or other Vegas casinos? Hopefully some people turn up at the gate. The prices when it was at the MGM were fair, so I’d like to see what the prices are going to be in L.A

Rivers Runs Red.

by RyanSexton on Feb 22, 2012 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

One might question whether or not Los Angeles deserves major fights

No, one cannot! Because Richard Schaefer says so.

On a side note, is it just me or is the Staples Center a total wannabe boxing venue?

BLH is a bunch of haters…

But on a serious note I will definitely go if this goes to Staples. I’m not sure how well it will sell, but I don’t think it’ll do much better anywhere else so hell why not!

by Sammlung on Feb 22, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

I think people are just enamored with the Staples Center because of the huge turnout for Margarito-Mosley. They mistake it for a big fight place, but really Margarito was on top of the world at the time. Ortiz doesn’t seem to resonate with Mexican fans nearly as well as Margarito did.

by Kory Kitchen on Feb 22, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

I think Klitschko-Arreola sold pretty well too, but overall I agree its overrated.

by Sammlung on Feb 22, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

He's from Kansas

Margarito is Mexican by comparison, having been raisedin Riverside.

Mosely is East LA.

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Feb 23, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah and Vitali fought Lewis there too, but in terms of the average title fight it will generally be a letdown.

by Kory Kitchen on Feb 22, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

Scott

Where is the ‘laugh button’ on this site.

they must be kidding with this site. Or maybe just interested in the site fees

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Feb 23, 2012 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

Where is the 'laugh botton' on this site, Scott

I cant seem to stp laughing long enough to find it

"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer"
---- Muhammed Ali

by pakinpower on Feb 23, 2012 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

I think this fight can draw in LA. Their first fight got a lot of attention during the run up to Mayweather-Ortiz and after the way that fight ended people started having opinions about Ortiz. Be it good or bad he has a name in the mainstream media.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he really ups the crazy talk for this fight. I liked their first fight and now Ortiz seems to have this “I wonder what’s going to happen this time” interest.
Plus, boxing is back on the rise, I don’t care what anyone says.

by glatin1982 on Feb 23, 2012 1:19 AM EST reply actions  

your concern here, is of course, very valid. however i personally am a fan of bringing boxing outside of vegas. i mean dont get me wrong, i like vegas an all and is the mecca of boxing but nowadays vegas is home to any old boxer with enough promotional backing to get a venue. vegas used to be the home to great fights and what about the days of ali? when a world title was defending around the world? i guess my point is, so long as this fight doesnt flop, which it shouldnt if theres a strong enough fan base for boxing there they should want to see this fight, then trying to make la a big fight city can only be a good thing, imo. whether or not that happens is of course another issue entirely

by sparky_mufc on Feb 23, 2012 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

Oh I’m a fan of taking boxing outside of Vegas when it makes sense to do so, too. I don’t think this was a great Vegas fight by any means. But I just don’t know about LA as a fight town at this point. I hope they do well, don’t get me wrong.

Bad Left Hook
"The internet has undermined professionalism in journalism, which is a good thing." - Bill James

by Scott Christ on Feb 23, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Basketball town

California is good boxing country, but LA is a basketball town. Time and time again, professional sports try to supplant the NBA and fail.

by cheetahpants on Feb 23, 2012 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

if its finalized im going. i might wait to check the whole card though.

by mrmojorisin on Feb 23, 2012 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

good point nick, i almost didn’t go to agbeko-mares and was covering my ears the whole time i was there so as not to hear any results of the cotto-margarito undercard fights

by jake_ash on Feb 23, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Zoom_2_small
Ward needs to leave SM, and SM needs him to leave
Reds_small
Ray Robinson And Cassius Clay, Together For The First Time
Buchanan
David Price and Seth Mitchell: How to Properly Develop a Heavyweight
Small
Sterioids in Boxing!!
Ali-frazier_small
Aaron Pryor vs Floyd Mayweather.
017_small
Adrien Broner - Real or Imitation
Small
Press Release: Top Rank purchases WBC
Buchanan
Is Boxing Dead?
Singleton04_small
It's Not if but When, they're fires stop burning
Reds_small
A Few Ballroom Bout Results

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managing Editor

206480_10150226708710923_747385922_9037192_4017321_n_small Scott Christ

Editors & Moderators

Aki_hair_cropped_small Brickhaus

Boxing_icon_small Matt Miller

Profile_picture_small Brent Brookhouse

Ingo_small A.F.

Contributors

Henry_leeds_small Oli Goldstein

Chris_celletti_headshot_small Chris Celletti

Duran4-470x308_small Kory Kitchen

051_small Thomas Hill