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Mid-Summer Ratings: Welterweight, Light Welterweight, Pound for Pound (June 26th, 2012)

Pound for Pound

1. Floyd Mayweather (WBC, WBA)

2. Andre Ward (WBA, RING)

3. Juan Manuel Marquez ( WBO Interim)

4. Sergio Martinez (RING)

5. Manny Pacquiao

6. Nonito Donaire (WBO)

7. Chad Dawson (WBC, RING)

8. Timothy Bradley (WBO)

9. Wladimir Klitschko (WBO, WBA, IBF, IBO, RING)

10. Guillermo Rigondeaux (WBA)

Junior Welterweight

1. Amir Khan

2. Juan Manuel Marquez (WBO Interim)

3. Danny Garcia (WBC)

4. Zab Judah

5. Marcos Maidana

6. Lucas Matthysse

7. Erik Morales

8. Mike Alvarado

9. Brandon Rios

10. Lamont Peterson*

*Dropped because of his positive drug test. I don't recognize him as the unified junior welterweight champion of the world.

Welterweight

1. Manny Pacquiao

2. Timothy Bradley (WBO)

3. Andre Berto

4. Kell Brook*

5. Victor Ortiz*

6. Paul Malignaggi (WBA)

7. Devon Alexander

8. Jan Zaveck

9. Josesito Lopez

10. Randall Bailey (IBF)

*The Ring has the most asinine ratings out there by far. I'm not questioning the credentials of those who rate each fighter but to have Victor Ortiz drop all the way to #10 below Randall Bailey and Paul Malignaggi, Jan Zaveck is the epitome of laziness in journalism. Victor remains in the top five in my rating because I believe he'll win the rematch with Jose Lopez and I tend to believe he's an overall better fighter than Lopez. Also with Kell Brook I mean he's an unproven talent with absolutely no one of any real legitimacy on his record in terms of who he's beaten that would warrant him to move beyond the four or five spot. You can move him ahead of Victor, but really that 4 and 5 is interchangeable.

Also unlike the Ring I removed Floyd Mayweather from the welterweight ratings because I just don't see the point in having him rated number one in two weight divisions when he last fought and won a title at junior middleweight. The same thing applies for Tim Bradley who for some reason the Ring still has him rated as the number one junior welterweight in the world. I removed him from my junior welterweight ratings and instead put him number two on my welterweight board. His fight with Manny Pacquiao did him favors in that he acquitted himself well, but I saw the fight and he did in fact lose by a wide enough margin to give Pacquiao the rightful claim as the number one welterweight in the world.

The Ring has Pacquiao and Mayweather in a split rating at the #2 spot on the pound for pound list, leaving the top spot vacant. Now, yes this sounds utterly moronic and the Ring loses their once highly regarded credibility by the hour when they pull such stunts as having two fighters share the #2 spot on a pound for pound list when really Floyd should be #1.

Floyd has beaten the better competition than Manny Pacquiao to a point. In the past four or five years they've traded opponents for the most part. You can argue quite successfully on behalf of either fighter who dispatch of those shared opponents in a more convincing fashion. Floyd obviously looked better against Juan Manuel Marquez, whereas Pacquiao can't solve him if his life depended on it. Marquez beat Pacquiao twice in my eyes, although one can say Floyd beat Marquez when Juan was clearly out of his depth weight wise. Floyd was bigger, taller, and stronger and it showed in that fight. However I doubt a level playing field at 135 would have made any difference.

Manny Pacquiao on the other hand completely and utterly destroyed Miguel Cotto. Some might argue that was the Pac-Man's best performance prior to the fight with Bradley. However to play Devil's advocate, Cotto was coming off the stoppage to Margarito and was clearly not his old self. Not only that he fought Manny at a 140 pound catchweight limit. Mayweather fought Cotto when Miguel was riding a bit of a positive streak. He was coming off his rematch win over Margarito that literally sent the brawling Mexican into retirement, he was a world champion again and his name was at the top of the list for Canelo Alvarez. Both Pacquiao and Mayweather fought and beat a live Miguel Cotto, but to parse things further I mean it's sort of a wash because Cotto didn't look the same in 2009 when he fought Manny, but Manny still destroyed him and it's not like Cotto didn't give effort. Against Mayweather I don't know, it just seemed like Cotto was more alive and more focused.

The win over Clottey and Margarito are not up for debate, Manny dominated them. Neither had any problems defeating an old worn out Shane Mosley so I disregard that as well. Against Oscar De La Hoya Floyd fought the slightly younger and ten times more live Oscar, Manny destroyed a clearly expired version in one of the most unnecessary fights in boxing history.

Ricky Hatton is interesting because he and Mayweather fought at the absolute height of the Hitman's hall of fame career. He was the most popular fighter in Britain, the best fighter in Britain, and he had huge momentum coming from a string of quality wins over Juan Urango, Carlos Maussa, Jose Luis Castillo, Luis Collazo, and of course his high profile upset victory over former undisputed 140 pound legend Kostya Tszyu. I'm not going to take the Brian Kinney route and parse Floyd's knockout of Hatton in comparison to Manny Pacquiao's knockout. To me both were impressive but again, Floyd fought Ricky Hatton when Ricky was fresh, undefeated, and seemingly unstoppable at 140, 147.

You can blame Joe Cortez for not allowing Ricky to fight his fight and for breaking them up too soon. I'm not a fan of Joe Cortez and I think he's very absent minded at best, but if you replace him with Steve Smoger or Kenny Bayless, Floyd still wins that fight. When Hatton and Pacquiao met in 2009 it was widely known that Ricky had problems maintaining himself in between fights. Ricky was trying to save face against Manny Pacquiao and therefore I don't think he was as committed as he was against Floyd. With the Mayweather fight a lot more was at stake because you had two undefeated fighters who were far more established at the time than Manny Pacquiao. So I tend to give Mayweather a lot more credit for his victory over Ricky Hatton.

And finally just look at their recent record, Mayweather is 2-0 with wins over Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto, Manny Pacquiao is 1-1 with a loss to Juan Manuel Marquez and a win over Tim Bradley.

If I had to redo my P4P list I would at least, at least move Manny Pacquiao to the third spot, but again where would you put Marquez? He's clearly above Donaire and I think above Sergio Martinez. Andre Ward is a solid #2 because his resume and his performance thus far has been more impressive than those ranked below him. He went undefeated in a tournament consisting of the best super middleweights in the world. Not only did he sweep the tournament he didn't lose more than a round or two. That's the problem, where does Manny go from here? His lost to Marquez and his performance in that fight knock him down the list but his win over Bradley bumps him up so it's basically a wash.

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